EricMM 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I wouldnt' say they cause the most accidents, but if one is in one, one is more likely to cause a fatality. They DO use the most gasoline, well them and small trucks. And I don't particularly worry about how much money you spend at the pump, I worry about how much gas you use. The supply won't last forever, just wait. They're also so heavy that they cause more roadway damage. Like potholes et all. Repair budgets have gone up since they became so popular. And they're deceptive. There are new Hybrid SUV's coming out. I can't really judge them yet, but I can tell you about the new hybrid truck. It gets the same milage in the country, and only two more miles per gallon in the city. It's a sham. THAT is a waste. People will just buy them for the HOV pass. It's going to ruin the hybrid movement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 They DO use the most gasoline, well them and small trucks. And I don't particularly worry about how much money you spend at the pump, I worry about how much gas you use. The supply won't last forever, just wait. They're also so heavy that they cause more roadway damage. Like potholes et all. Repair budgets have gone up since they became so popular. Seeing as I do mostly highway driving, I think I'm using less gas than a more gas-effective car that does mostly city driving does, but it's just a guess. And, if damage to the roads is a concern, what about things like 10-wheelers & other heavy vans (e.g. U-Hauls)? Sorry to keep busting balls about this, but I really don't agree with most SUV bashing, so I get kind of defensive/protective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I'm sure those trucks pay extra taxes/fees because of this. Funny enough, there was a story a year or so ago about Oregon trying to install some GPS system that will tax someone based on how much they drive. Anyway, the reason for this was that because of more fuel-friendly cars and trucks there wasn't enough money getting collected via gas taxes to repair the roads. That's all, thank you drive-thru... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2005 I'm sure those trucks pay extra taxes/fees because of this. Funny enough, there was a story a year or so ago about Oregon trying to install some GPS system that will tax someone based on how much they drive. We gave up a perfectly good monarchy for this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2005 SO then raise the fucking prices/taxes of gasoline. I won't fucking complain w/ my civic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted January 26, 2005 Hope you like EVERYTHING to be astronomically more expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2005 Speaking of saving the hippie planet, anyone else hear about this?... (01-26) 05:23 PST -- A San Francisco city commission voted Tuesday to recommend charging supermarket shoppers 17 cents for every grocery bag they use. The unanimous vote by the Commission on the Environment came after dozens of city residents came to speak in support of the idea, the first of its kind in the nation, according to Department of the Environment spokesman Mark Westlund. Several people at the meeting voiced concern, however, that the proposed fees would be hard on the poor. "We'll be specifically looking at the impacts on low-income shoppers,'' Westlund said. Supporters have described the fee as a potential way to cover costs associated with cleaning up stray paper and plastic bags in the city's waste stream. About 50 million grocery bags are used in San Francisco each year and the city spends about $8.5 million to dispose of them or remove them from streets and storm drains, according to Westlund. The commission's decision will be forwarded to supervisors, who would have to take any final votes on proposed legislation. If it adopts a bag fee measure, San Francisco would be the first city in the country to charge a fee for paper and plastic grocery bags, though similar measures overseas have reduced the amount of waste. In Ireland, a 15-cent fee levied about two years ago cut grocery bag use in the country by more than 90 percent, according to the Department of the Environment. In a survey conducted by SurveyUSA for KPIX, 55 percent of adults said they would bring their own bags if stores began charging 17 cents per bag, although 63 percent thought it was a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered Report post Posted January 27, 2005 that's...not that big of a deal KKK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2005 When I worked in a grocery store, excessive bag usage was more the fault of the bagger than the customer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted January 27, 2005 Just hike littering fines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2005 that's...not that big of a deal KKK I know, I just thought it was funny, hippie. And if I got charged extra for plastic bags I'd scatter them around our precious earth on purpose... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2005 Giant sells reusable green bags, and if you use them you get a couple of cents maybe even a dollar or so off of your bill. Over time, that adds up. I don't mind charging people to use disposable bags. What a waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted January 27, 2005 Eric wants to be poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
