Howard Dean: The Next DNC Chief.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/05/....dnc/index.html

 

Through about two years of following the good doctor in the political realm, I've experienced nothing but setbacks, ridicule, and disappointment; however, as of right now, it looks like Governor Dean will finally win one. Simon Rosenberg, a guy who I thought was clearly the best alternative to Dean, dropped out yesterday along with the only other candidate with any pledged delegates, Donnie Fowler. That leaves Dean and Tim Roemer, but Roemer has done a spectacular job blundering his own chances by pissing off everyone with a vote. As of right now, with the vote a week away, there's little chance that anyone but Howard Dean will be the next DNC chairman.

 

Most of you will say "OMG THIS IS JUAST WHUT THE DEMS NEED A CRAZEE PERSON LOL" without actually realizing what he brings to the table. In past years, as you may or may not know, local democratic parties have taken a turn for the worse in this country; they've been hung out to dry in this era of "red state/blue state" politics simply because it was politically expedient to only search out "competitive" districts and financially support them. This is a big, massive mistake; it leads to cascading failures in financial health for the state and local parties, and it leads to open seats galore for Republicans. As we've seen in Montana, it's folly to simply give up on an area because it's traditionally conservative. If you're not aware of the situation there, in a hugely red area, Democrats re-took the state legislatures and governorship in 2004.

 

Dean has pledged to provide support for the state and local legislatures even in areas that are not typically "blue", which is a good start. He's pledged to help revitalize the state and local parties through organization, better communication, and empowerment within the party.

 

In this age of declining political parties -- an age where more people identify themselves as independant than a member of your party -- this is the correct first step for any leader. Reconnecting with those that you have left and decentralizing the party operations is the correct move for this point in time.

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Good. I know that everyone likes to paint him as an ultra-liberal, but I've read that he actually was fairly moderate as governor of Vermont.

 

By the way, when exactly did Dean say he "hates" Republicans, as MikeSC said in another thread?

[CBright7831 0]

YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Never-ish. Mike's delusionary because he wants there to be a physical fist fight between the two parties or something.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

I'm pretty sure he did say it. It was reported in the NY Daily News.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

LOL.

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Wait a minute, here we go:

 

Dean's howling

to lead DNC

 

 

 

BY MAGGIE HABERMAN

DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU

 

HOWARD DEAN, THE favorite to be the next head of the Democratic National Committee, made his case in midtown yesterday, promising to make his party operate more like the GOP - at least when it comes to elections.

"I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for, but I admire their discipline and their organization," the failed presidential hopeful told the crowd at the Roosevelt Hotel, where he and six other candidates spoke at the final DNC forum before the Feb. 12 vote for chairman.

 

But Dean said the Democrats should not change their beliefs to be "Republican lite."

 

"We can talk about our faith, but we cannot change our faith," he said, echoing themes he sounded in his presidential bid. "We need to be people of conviction."

 

Later, he said that what "95% of Americans are really concerned about" is national security. But he said Americans also do not want to sacrifice the nation's values. "They want America to be the moral leader of the world again," he said.

 

Dean came into the event riding a fresh wave of momentum. A day earlier, he was endorsed for the top Democratic spot by Clinton ally Harold Ickes amid speculation over whether Bill and Hillary Clinton would try to block Dean.

 

Ickes, who briefly considered running for the DNC chairmanship himself, said he was not speaking for the Clintons, but it was a sign the former First Couple won't oppose Dean, who would be chairman for any run Hillary makes at the White House.

 

Also vying for the seat are grass-roots activist Donnie Fowler, former Texas Rep. Martin Frost, 9/11 commission member Tim Roemer, Simon Rosenberg, former Denver Mayor Wellington Webb and lawyer David Leland.

 

Originally published on January 30, 2005

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/...0p-236422c.html

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

LOL.

Okay, okay. It was widely reported.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Dean is at least the complete opposite of snake-oil salesman Terry McAulliffe, and so I think it's a needed change for the Democrats.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

This NY Daily News story is the only time I've ever heard it. Nonetheless, it's no worse a faux pas than the Marine general one.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

In past years, as you may or may not know, local democratic parties have taken a turn for the worse in this country...

 

Actually I think their turn has gone quite well...

[Guest MikeSC]

Well, the Dems were once a good party.

 

RIP Democratic Party.

-=Mike

..."Oh, we're not total dovish leftists. Why would ANYBODY think that?"

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Well, the Dems were once a good party.

 

RIP Democratic Party.

      -=Mike

..."Oh, we're not total dovish leftists. Why would ANYBODY think that?"

sensationalist (n)-someone who uses exaggerated or lurid material in order to gain public attention [syn: ballyhoo artist]

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

So, it was nice of you to ignore my post!

[SuperJerk 0]

http://www.livejournal.com/users/y2jerk/450.html

 

My thoughts on Dean, from my blog last December.

[Guest MikeSC]

NOTHING reeks of a solid plan for a party than insulting a majority of voters to start off.

-=Mike

...Who thinks the Dean reign might actually be worse for the DNC that McAwful's...

[SuperJerk 0]

NOTHING reeks of a solid plan for a party than insulting a majority of voters to start off.

The majority of the voters are not Republicans.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Indeed, the VAST majority of voters are registered as Independant, and the vast majority of voters don't read the NY Daily News. Congratulations on your exaggeration!

[Guest MikeSC]

Indeed, the VAST majority of voters are registered as Independant, and the vast majority of voters don't read the NY Daily News. Congratulations on your exaggeration!

If you think Dean won't have that tied around his neck, you're oblivious to reality. You can call it negative campaigning if you wish, but the head of the RNC tends to not make as bloody asinine comments as Dean does on a regular basis. Man, people think Bush makes dumb statements? He has nothing on the burnout primary candidate.

 

Dean has ALREADY shown that the man is too much of a dunce to actually know what to say and when to say it. He can feel free to mock FNC all he wants (and he does), insulting the network with more viewers than the networks he does support COMBINED is incredibly poor planning. And insulting conservative voters is going to kill him, but as usual, the Dems will simply blame marketing and not the blatant bankruptcy of their political ideology.

 

"Most voters are independents"?

 

Maybe so --- but considering the success of the GOP, the voters are clearly more conservative than the Dems are --- and Dean is almost as inept as Kerry at reaching out to them.

 

The Dems are allowing their psychotic blogs (Kos is bigger with the Dems than any conservative blog is with the GOP) and their assorted whiny kids to determine the future of the party. It's just sad that the direction they are taking them is one of utter irrelevancy.

 

It's even worse when OBVIOUS problems are obvious --- Sen. Reid is making the same asinine mistakes Daschle made to lose his seat.

 

But, hey, it's not MY party that is committing hari kari, that has only won one majority in 40 years, and has no real shot at winning Congress back in the near future.

-=Mike

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

but considering the success of the GOP, the voters are clearly more conservative than the Dems are

 

Overgeneralization that isn't based in reality.

[SuperJerk 0]

Maybe so --- but considering the success of the GOP, the voters are clearly more conservative than the Dems are --- and Dean is almost as inept as Kerry at reaching out to them.

 

Its been shown time and time again that most voters have no clue where the Republicans really stand on the issues.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

To be fair, you could replace "republicans" with "democrats" there too, and it'd also be true.

 

However, the point remains that Mike's gross overassertion of conservative nature the Independant public is absolutely idiotic.

[SuperJerk 0]

Its been shown time and time again that most voters have no clue where the anyone really stand on the issues, but would rather base heir decision on how much they "relate" to a candidate (Presidential level) or on how much pork they can acquire for their state or district.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Pork is becoming one of the only ways that a party in government can coalesce along party lines. Mr. DeLay and Mr. Hastert in the house, and Mr. Frist in the Senate are very good at ensuring votes by offering pork.

[Guest Cerebus]

Boo hoo hippy. Us state Repubs in "Blue" states are probably just as, if not more, shabbily treated by the RNC than your side is. For the most part, we have to fend for ourselves, even when we have a Republican governor which is why Roland got zero support from the legislature repubs here when he was in hot water. He's been leaving the Republican legislators to the wolves ever since he became governor.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

I wasn't being critical, I was more just stating fact. That's how they keep the party together nowadays since there's such a broad diversity within both parties.

[SuperJerk 0]

Boo hoo hippy. Us state Repubs in "Blue" states are probably just as, if not more, shabbily treated by the RNC than your side is. For the most part, we have to fend for ourselves, even when we have a Republican governor which is why Roland got zero support from the legislature repubs here when he was in hot water. He's been leaving the Republican legislators to the wolves ever since he became governor.

My point was that pork and personalities is what keeps people in power, not positions or policies. Of course both parties do it.

[Guest Brian]

But, hey, it's not MY party that is committing hari kari,

The voice of the Cubs is dead.

[Guest Cerebus]

I was talking to Tyler actually.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Bitch, I'll kill you.