EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2005 Stern also revealed Monday that the NBA has tied a proposal for a 20-year-old age limit and the elimination of the injured list to the proposal for a true minor league. However, he wouldn't speculate on the chances that an age limit would be passed as part of the new agreement. I think that is unfair, and unnecessary. With a minor league, the only sub-20 players will either be guys who deserve to be at that level, or the occasional call-up if a team has been decimated by injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 A true minor league would be good in a sense, but it doesn't need to go hand in hand with an age limit. Every year there will likely be someone like a Dwight Howard who is ready to play right out of high school, and it's unfair for them to have to stay in the minor leagues for two entire seasons. Not sure if I understand the elimination of the IL either. If you call up someone from the minors to replace an injured player does said injured player get demoted? The guy can get in a "rehab start" or two before coming back, but it seems like semantics rather than a practical reason. Even MLB has an IR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 The injured list in the NBA is a joke though. Ndaie Ebiaye has had knee tendoninitis for 2 years know. Recently, Eddie Griffin came back for Minnesota, and Earvin Johnson just happened to come up with a sore back or some fake injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 Sometimes, though, teams have so many injuries (or fake injuries, whatever) that they can't all be fit on the list, therefore someone has to wait for another person to come back before they can go on the injured list. Jamaal Tinsley has had foot problems for like a month and a half, but they kept him off thinking he could go, then Jermaine went down and they couldn't put him on the list when they wanted to. Some of the injuries are also made up by the team just to get them on the list, because they have 15 on the roster but can only use 12, and the extra three have to go on the list. Jamison Brewer, for example, has spent virtually his entire career on the injured list (not sure how much he's played this year though, for the Knicks). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 Actually, I think he did (he has dreads right?) Looked pretty good. But actually I like the IL use in the NBA. It allows them to always have a couple of extra guys on the roster as just in case. They should call it the IR though and stop with the fake injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bobby K. Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I think an age limit on the NBA is a remarkable idea, and I'll tell you why. First of all the kids in college these days don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to living in the real world. That's why college is an institution, to help mature the young men and women into upstanding citizens before entering the working life. Hell, if it was up to me a college degree would be required to play on the NBA level. These kids are 19 years old and making millions upon millions of dollars and most of them don't even know what that means. Kobe Bryant is a case-in-point. He is extremely talented, but has no self-discipline and apparently no moral fiber either. When you look at the NBA of the past-The era of Bird, Johnson,Jabbar and to an extent Jordan, you had older players, and a higher level of basketball being played. One only needs to look at the 83-84 Lakers/Celtics teams and NBA Finals. Talk about barnburners, hell if it was 97 degrees in an arena nowadays the spoiled punk kids would refuse to play. With age comes greater responsibility and an affinity for making the right decisions. An age limit, then would be a good thing, and I think it should be 22 , not 20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 Sometimes, though, teams have so many injuries (or fake injuries, whatever) that they can't all be fit on the list, therefore someone has to wait for another person to come back before they can go on the injured list. Jamaal Tinsley has had foot problems for like a month and a half, but they kept him off thinking he could go, then Jermaine went down and they couldn't put him on the list when they wanted to. Some of the injuries are also made up by the team just to get them on the list, because they have 15 on the roster but can only use 12, and the extra three have to go on the list. Jamison Brewer, for example, has spent virtually his entire career on the injured list (not sure how much he's played this year though, for the Knicks). I know, and Kevin McHale said Ebi does have a stress fracture in his leg. So he is legit hurt. A farm system imo, is a good way to get playing time for the players who aren't hurt, but are on the injured list. That would leave room for Tinsley, or another player who is really hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I think an age limit on the NBA is a remarkable idea, and I'll tell you why. First of all the kids in college these days don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to living in the real world. That's why college is an institution, to help mature the young men and women into upstanding citizens before entering the working life. Hell, if it was up to me a college degree would be required to play on the NBA level. These kids are 19 years old and making millions upon millions of dollars and most of them don't even know what that means. Kobe Bryant is a case-in-point. He is extremely talented, but has no self-discipline and apparently no moral fiber either. When you look at the NBA of the past-The era of Bird, Johnson,Jabbar and to an extent Jordan, you had older players, and a higher level of basketball being played. One only needs to look at the 83-84 Lakers/Celtics teams and NBA Finals. Talk about barnburners, hell if it was 97 degrees in an arena nowadays the spoiled punk kids would refuse to play. With age comes greater responsibility and an affinity for making the right decisions. An age limit, then would be a good thing, and I think it should be 22 , not 20. I'd bother to respond if I didn't think this was a gimmick poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2005 I think an age limit on the NBA is a remarkable idea, and I'll tell you why. First of all the kids in college these days don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to living in the real world. That's why college is an institution, to help mature the young men and women into upstanding citizens before entering the working life. Hell, if it was up to me a college degree would be required to play on the NBA level. These kids are 19 years old and making millions upon millions of dollars and most of them don't even know what that means. Kobe Bryant is a case-in-point. He is extremely talented, but has no self-discipline and apparently no moral fiber either. When you look at the NBA of the past-The era of Bird, Johnson,Jabbar and to an extent Jordan, you had older players, and a higher level of basketball being played. One only needs to look at the 83-84 Lakers/Celtics teams and NBA Finals. Talk about barnburners, hell if it was 97 degrees in an arena nowadays the spoiled punk kids would refuse to play. With age comes greater responsibility and an affinity for making the right decisions. An age limit, then would be a good thing, and I think it should be 22 , not 20. Do you have any other examples besides Kobe Bryant. He went to private school, which is a far cry from your basic public high school. Besides, plenty of players are considered problems, and many of them went to college. I see NO correlation between college experience and attitude. A lot of the crap associated with high school kids coming to the NBA is just clouded personal observations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites