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Ohio agency sinks millions into rare coins

State gives investment business to prominent local Republican

 

By MIKE WILKINSON

and JAMES DREW

BLADE STAFF WRITERS

 

 

Since 1998, Ohio has invested millions of dollars in the unregulated world of rare coins, buying nickels, dimes, and pennies.

Controlling the money for the state? Prominent local Republican and coin dealer Tom Noe, whose firm made more than $1 million off the deal last year alone.

 

The agreement to invest the money in rare coins is rare itself: The Blade could find no other instance of a state government investing in a rare coin fund. Neither the state nor Mr. Noe could provide one.

 

"I don't think I'd be excited to invest in rare coins," Vermont Treasurer Mike Ablowich said. "It's a little unusual."

 

The Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation has continued to be the sole investor in Mr. Noe's Capital Coin funds despite strong concerns raised by an auditor with the bureau about possible conflicts of interest and whether the state's millions were adequately protected.

 

And the state has maintained its stake in Capital Coin despite documented problems:

 

 

Two coins worth roughly $300,000 were lost in the mail in 2003.

 

The firm has written off $850,000 in debt over the last three years to cover a failed business relationship.

 

 

Mr. Noe has loaned some of the state's money to a local real estate business that buys and sells central-city homes. A state auditor could not find documents to prove if the loans were sufficiently covered by the value of real estate that a Capital Coin subsidiary held as collateral.

 

More at http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...EWS24/504030349

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Just because one person who claims to support an ideology is a liar/hypocrite doesn't mean that everyone who claims to support said ideology is a liar/hypocrite.

 

No offense, but if your point was that this news somehow invalidates conservatism as an ideology, you're employing some very Coulter-esque logic.

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If you expect me to defend anything "fiscally conservative" Republicans do nowadays, you'll be in for quite a wait.

 

But to make this thread somewhat worthwhile, I just want people to know the Toledo Blade is owned by the same commie lib that owns the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Just a bit of trivia for my TSM brethren...

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Just because one person who claims to support an ideology is a liar/hypocrite doesn't mean that everyone who claims to support said ideology is a liar/hypocrite.

 

No offense, but if your point was that this news somehow invalidates conservatism as an ideology, you're employing some very Coulter-esque logic.

Wasn't my point at all. I just thought it was kind of a funny & weird story and I actually hit enter before putting a silly subtitle.

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Guest MikeSC

So, is the UN Oil-For-Food scandal "fiscal liberalism" or "fiscal progressivism" at work?

-=Mike

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So, is the UN Oil-For-Food scandal "fiscal liberalism" or "fiscal progressivism" at work?

-=Mike

Just because one person who claims to support an ideology is a liar/hypocrite doesn't mean that everyone who claims to support said ideology is a liar/hypocrite.

 

No offense, but if your point was that this news somehow invalidates liberalism as an ideology, you're employing some very Coulter-esque logic.

 

 

RobotJerk = fair and balanced.

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Guest MikeSC
So, is the UN Oil-For-Food scandal "fiscal liberalism" or "fiscal progressivism" at work?

      -=Mike

Just because one person who claims to support an ideology is a liar/hypocrite doesn't mean that everyone who claims to support said ideology is a liar/hypocrite.

 

No offense, but if your point was that this news somehow invalidates liberalism as an ideology, you're employing some very Coulter-esque logic.

 

 

RobotJerk = fair and balanced.

That was the reason I made the comparison.

 

Graft is graft. It knows no specific ideology.

-=Mike

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Someone forgot to tell KKK that Ashcroft retired.

 

 

And that his space craft exploded on its way back to his homeworld.

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Someone forgot to tell KKK that Ashcroft retired.

That's what The Man wants you to know -- that Ashcroft retired and some Mexican took his place, or, in Ripper-speak, DAY TURK ER JOB (or however the hell that South Park line went...)

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