TNA News from Various Sources

[Carnival 0]

I'm not having a "go" at anyone. I'm trying to end this rambling.

 

Let's just say we can blame Jarrett for everything from the holocaust to the Tsunami and leave it at that.

[The Niggardly King 0]

I'm not having a "go" at anyone. I'm trying to end this rambling.

 

Let's just say we can blame Jarrett for everything from the holocaust to the Tsunami and leave it at that.

Sounds good to me.

[zyn081 0]

--The Slammiversary PPV show on 6/19 will have most of the line-up made clear at tonight's tapings. The main event will be a King of the Mountain title match with A.J. Styles defending against Jeff Jarrett, Abyss, Monty Brown and another wrestler (original plan was Jeff Hardy but that would be a terrible idea if it wasn't changed).

 

Credit: Wrestling Observer

TNA had confirmed it. Will Matt be available by June 19th? And how are they going to justify his entry? JJ is ex-champ so thats a rematch, Abyss is No 1 Contender and Monty is . . . was screwed out of his title shot in a very silly way.

 

Who could be the 5th?

[Carnival 0]

Who could be the 5th?

Hopefully Raven.

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

Yes this is Abyss' second title shot that he won, and won't get.

 

TNA never made much sense, but now they are just lost.

 

The Main Event although it's totally random, sounds ok, I bet Jeff Jarrett wins the title for the 15th time.

Fixed...

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Matt is not available.

[zyn081 0]

Matt is not available.

I think daniels is out. That only leaves Killings and Raven. Pretty pointless going with the former.

 

Come to think of it, given the randomness of TNAs booking, put Raven in the match because they will surprise us all and let him win it.

[Carnival 0]

I don't think there is any way Styles won't win this.

[zyn081 0]

I don't think there is any way Styles won't win this.

I was joking.

 

That would be such a waste of the Destiny angle.

 

Hmmmmm. Destiny, Sacrifice, Destiny, Sacrifice. Sounds like a pairing there. One continously sacrifices himself so as to fulfil his destiny.

 

I called it first.

[Carnival 0]

I know you weren't saying Raven is gonna win for sure...i was just stating what I thought.

 

If their big PPV is in September, what match could they possibly be building up to?

 

AJ vs Monty? AJ vs Daniels? Monty vs Jarrett?

 

I wouldn't mind Jarrett winning it back so he can face Monty at that PPV. But that's just the mark in me talking.

 

TNA needs Main Event heels, and i think Raven would be perfect for that. Once Monty turns face...that leaves Jarrett and Tweener Abyss. Daniels could be also.

 

Rhino would be a good main event heel if he comes in.

[Magus 0]

In my opinion, TNA's top babyfaces should be: AJ, Monty, Killings, and Matt Hardy when he shows up (I'd have him challenge for both the World Title and the Tag Titles with Jeff).

 

The top heels: Jarrett, Raven, Abyss, Daniels, and Rhino when he comes in.

 

If we're thinking about what the big September show should be, here's my take:

-Raven vs. Styles where Raven fulfills his destiny

-Jarrett vs. Monty, Monty finally gets his revenge

-NAO vs. AMW

-Naturals vs. Hardy Boyz (Hardys win the belts)

-Abyss vs. Rhino

-Daniels vs. a special X Division challenger (Juvi, Ultimo Dragon, or LOW KI)

-Killings vs. CM Punk

-a segment with Team Canada, b/c I see them getting over huge in the future

-a good X Division opener (let's say Skipper vs. Sabin vs. Dutt vs. Shocker)

 

Now THAT's a TNA show that I'd order.

[Carnival 0]

I'd pay for it.

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My prediction for the September ppv - Jeff Jarrett wins the main event.

 

Because foregone conclusions always spike the buyrate...

[zyn081 0]

I know you weren't saying Raven is gonna win for sure...i was just stating what I thought.

 

If their big PPV is in September, what match could they possibly be building up to?

 

AJ vs Monty? AJ vs Daniels? Monty vs Jarrett?

 

I wouldn't mind Jarrett winning it back so he can face Monty at that PPV. But that's just the mark in me talking.

 

TNA needs Main Event heels, and i think Raven would be perfect for that. Once Monty turns face...that leaves Jarrett and Tweener Abyss. Daniels could be also.

 

Rhino would be a good main event heel if he comes in.

Fair enough, your entitled to your opinion. I think AJ will win it too. If JJ wins it, even you Carnivaliz, wont be able to defend him.

 

I thought their big PPV was Slam? But I like the idea of September, cause its 6 months away from Mania.

 

Very hard to say who it will be. The realistic options IMHO are (the champion is always 1st):

 

AJ vs Monty (Just doesnt seem to do anything for me, more of an exibition match. I find it very hard not to want Monty to win and that would be at AJs expense. I would say that this is a situation to be avoided.)

 

AJ vs Daniels (Yes, and I like the idea of 2 talented so-called 'wrestlers' working the biggest TNA match of the year. The problem I have with this is that its been done to death and would most probably need a stip, and I am a 100% of the biggest TNA match of the year having a stip.)

 

JJ vs Monty (A case of too little, too late. That means that JJ would have to win it back which is another U turn. Should have happened at Slam. Wouldnt be the same if Monty were the champ and JJ was the chaser.)

 

Carnivaliz, I am not crapping on your ideas, just bringing the content. I would prefer to see 1 of:

 

AJ vs Abyss (They work well together but been done even more to death than AJ vs Daniels)

 

AJ vs Raven (Wouldnt work. Raven has to be face when he fulfills his destiny and then he decays into paranoia)

 

Monty vs Raven (Would keep things constant, cause Raven could get over Monty any day, and Monty wouldnt change so quickly.)

 

Daniels vs Raven/Monty (Pretty much works either way. I think Daniels would bring the cowardness of the heel but then would risk putting his body on the line. They could go down a holier than though route with the former, which I think would be gold since they are both excellent workers. Daniels could play off the fact that he one the big one at his 1st attempt and Raven is a loser. They could go down the hunter and the hunted with the latter, which I think Daniles promos and Montys physicality would get it over. Daniels could play off the fact that Monty is is afraid of winning the big one since he aligned with JJ.)

 

JJ vs Raven (I know everybody is growning say how could you say this but: this is the best option they have got. And theyve got time to build it and build it right, and dont say that I am obsessed with Raven. Raven would go through Killings, Abyss and Monty. Hell, I could give you a back story for each one of them:

 

Killings - has nothing to do at Slam and came 2nd in the Gauntlet. Raven could think about quiting since hes disgruntled that nobody respects him with Jeff not even bothering to turn up and bumps into Killings on his way out. Killings says that Raven is a quitter and never fulfilled his destiny in a cocky sort of way. Raven could then say that from were hes standing, Killings was only 2nd best at Hard Justice. Killings says that Raven is past it. Ravens says that may he is, but even when hes way past his prime he could beat Killings any day of the weak. Killings tell him to prove it and back it up. The stip is if Raven loses hes out of TNA for good.

 

Abyss - who has been shafted out of a title shot twice. Raven decides to go for the big one, one last time. By this time Abyss would forget that hes got a signed contract for a 1 on 1 match. Raven sees an opening. He plays mind games with Abyss throughout the shows, getting to put his title shot on the line at sacrifice. The deal is that Abyss is too stupid to win the NWA title and he needs Ravens help. Abyss wouldnt like that at all. He would be willing to postpone his shot for 1 month to beat the crap out of Raven. Raven says to take a piece of him away, Abyss would have to Sacrifice something also.

 

Monty - by this time, yes, groan, JJ is TNA champ again. He can harp on how good he is and Monty is his lacky cause Monty got his ass kicked at Slam. Enter Raven. Ravens got a title shot and starts calling JJ out. He doesnt want to wait till No Surrender, he wants it tonight. Out comes Monty. He says that his shot is bull and that the Champ isnt going to face him for it . . . unless he proves himself, by going through Monty, which he has never done before {or so I think}. Cue a Hardcore Match or an I Quit match, given that its No Surrender. JJ tries to screw Raven, but fails.

 

JJ - Monty is out, Abyss is out. Raven hits iMPACT and says that JJ has nowhere to run and nowhere to hide, cause its going to be him and JJ one on one in September. "I [Raven] have rediscovered myself by staring in the face of my own failure, by sacrificing myself to get what I want and by not giving up to fulill the destiny that needs to realised. JJ, that makes me a very dangerous man and you can never stop me." JJ hits the stage, blah blah blah Raven, didnt you say similar things before and guess who was still the champ then and is still the champ now. He portrays Raven as being a choker showing all his losses.

 

Its the match that has the most history and a prolonged angle that we havent seen in wrestling for ages. They have a past, so play on it).

 

O how Killings has fallen. Rhyno and Matt shouldnt get near the title until after the New Year.

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In my opinion, TNA's top babyfaces should be: AJ, Monty, Killings, and Matt Hardy when he shows up (I'd have him challenge for both the World Title and the Tag Titles with Jeff).

 

The top heels: Jarrett, Raven, Abyss, Daniels, and Rhino when he comes in.

 

If we're thinking about what the big September show should be, here's my take:

-Raven vs. Styles where Raven fulfills his destiny

-Jarrett vs. Monty, Monty finally gets his revenge

-NAO vs. AMW

-Naturals vs. Hardy Boyz (Hardys win the belts)

-Abyss vs. Rhino

-Daniels vs. a special X Division challenger (Juvi, Ultimo Dragon, or LOW KI)

-Killings vs. CM Punk

-a segment with Team Canada, b/c I see them getting over huge in the future

-a good X Division opener (let's say Skipper vs. Sabin vs. Dutt vs. Shocker)

 

Now THAT's a TNA show that I'd order.

I like but I dont like parts of it. Will just comment I the potential holes I see.

 

The 4-way is the best opener they could pull off. All 4 workers are better than Shane. Maybe make it a 6 way with Juvi and Shane

 

So Team Canada wouldnt be on the card? No, I dont think they should and that would be their angle. For the reason see below.

 

I cant see Punk vs Killings. How would they get to that?

 

Daniels vs Low Ki would be hot.

 

Abyss vs Killings would make more sense.

 

I like the Naturals vs Hardyz and NAO vs AMW. That means that they could turn AMW heal or set-up TNA vs ex-WWE 4 on 4. 2 good tag matches and therefore no place on the card for team canada.

 

JJ vs Monty and Raven vs Styles. Ive already said what I have to say about this. Its a problem I know. JJ shouldnt be in title picture again, but hes the best person to face Monty or Raven and if its not for the title, then it cheapens it. It wont be the same if its Styles instead of JJ, since Monty or Raven would have to be faces to win it. So altough JJ vs Monty works without the title, Raven vs Styles really doesnt at all and then you have a problem of who would face Raven since I think that it should be his night. The only natural name that fits is Daniels but then Raven wouldnt be overcoming the odds. If only Abyss was a more realistic contender, but for me JJ vs Raven is the best bet.

 

Didnt mean to flame you bud, and I hope it doesnt come across like that.

 

By the way, will this be called Bound for Glory?

[TNABaddboi 0]

By the way, will this be called Bound for Glory?

 

I believe that is what Banks said in his column a while back.

[Magus 0]

I always like constructive criticism. I made those up off the top of my head, and I think that's what I'd have if I were given the book over the summer. I'll just explain why i picked some of these matches and hopefully answer your questions.

 

-AJ vs. Raven. I'm totally against JJ being champ. I think he can help elevate others, but I wouldn't let him near the title ever again. Like I said, I'm booking here. So to me, Styles is the best option. Over the summer I'd have Styles be the dominant champ he deserves to be while Raven goes on about his destiny and how he's been held down by the politics. People love AJ, but even though Raven would be heel here, they'll cheer for Raven as well. The angle is that AJ is so good, he can withstand any challenger... but he can't refuse DESTINY.

 

-Jarrett vs. Monty. I'd keep booking Jarrett as the desperate man trying to get back his title. Monty would be there to help, but he'd more often get in the way or overshadow Jeff. Jeff would become more abusive, and by the end of the summer, when the fans are salivating for it, Monty would have enough of it and turn, setting up this match where Monty just squashes him.

 

-NAO vs. AMW. I think it'd be cool to turn AMW heel, plus, the people are gonna cheer the NAO no matter what. I think it could be a good match, and I like the idea of the Naturals and AMW teaming up against the ex-WWF teams of NAO and Hardyz. That could create some good mixed tag and singles matches.

 

-Naturals vs. Hardy Boyz. Jeff returns with Matt in tow and they earn a shot at the Naturals. I like the Naturals as faces, but I think the face turn is just setting up for an even bigger heel turn. Candido would be proud. Anyway, the Hardyz win a match to get the shot, then win this match to get the straps.

 

-Abyss vs. Rhino. I just personally want to see it. I'd have Rhino come in and just run over everyone in his path. By now Abyss would have a mouthpiece (JIM MITCHELL!), and he'd see Rhino as trying to muscle in on Abyss' spot as the dominant monster of TNA. I think a drawn-out program with Abyss and Rhino would be fresh and give us some really good, brutal matches.

 

-Daniels' match. If I had a pick, I'd say Low Ki, since there's history, and the match would just rock the house. TNA actually wants to bring in Ultimo, though, which is still a good thing. I'd probably still have Daniels retain.

 

-Killings vs. Punk. Again, I'd just like to see it. If Punk were to come to TNA, this would be a good fued to elevate both men. I want Killings OUT of 3LK (Someone mentioned teaming Sharkboy and Konnan as a comedy act, which I think could work). Punk's a long shot (along with the other ROH guys), so this was more hopeful than anything. If I couldn't get him, I'd give Killings some kinda match where he could go over, as I really like him and think he needs to be pushed.

 

-Team Canada is going to start going places, like I said before. I think your idea about them bitching about not having a place could work well. Maybe announce that Bobby Rude is thinking about going after the World Title?

 

-As for the X Division match, I've never seen Shane as an X Division guy. He can work a good match with them, but he doesn't have that style himself. I always thought he'd do well in a heel team with Siaki, but that's just me. TNA actually has some good X workers now, and I think Shane kinda holds it back. Juvi's a good talent, but only now and then, as he's frickin' insane. If I were to add Petey and Sharkboy to the mix and make it a 6-man Scramble match, that'd be cool as hell.

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In reply to Magus.

 

-AJ vs. Raven.  I'm totally against JJ being champ.  I think he can help elevate others, but I wouldn't let him near the title ever again.  Like I said, I'm booking here.  So to me, Styles is the best option.  Over the summer I'd have Styles be the dominant champ he deserves to be while Raven goes on about his destiny and how he's been held down by the politics.  People love AJ, but even though Raven would be heel here, they'll cheer for Raven as well.  The angle is that AJ is so good, he can withstand any challenger... but he can't refuse DESTINY.

 

I agree, JJ shouldnt be champ again BUT I just think Raven has to be a face to win it and it would mean more if he beat JJs ass big time. Can you imagine Benoit winning the World Title as a heal? For me, Jericho as heal was the worst thing of his title reign. I said, its a problem to book. That means that AJ would be the best man for all the problems stated above, but for me, it does not feel as good as it should be.

 

-Jarrett vs. Monty.  I'd keep booking Jarrett as the desperate man trying to get back his title.  Monty would be there to help, but he'd more often get in the way or overshadow Jeff.  Jeff would become more abusive, and by the end of the summer, when the fans are salivating for it, Monty would have enough of it and turn, setting up this match where Monty just squashes him.

 

Makes sense, but ruins my dream ME. I know what your saying. You tie up the top 4 people of the company and JJ vs Monty fits. It tarnishes Raven winning it a bit for me.

 

-NAO vs. AMW.  I think it'd be cool to turn AMW heel, plus, the people are gonna cheer the NAO no matter what.  I think it could be a good match, and I like the idea of the Naturals and AMW teaming up against the ex-WWF teams of NAO and Hardyz.  That could create some good mixed tag and singles matches.

 

Nods. I agree. NAO will get cheap returning heat. Make it a dumpster match.

 

-Naturals vs. Hardy Boyz.  Jeff returns with Matt in tow and they earn a shot at the Naturals.  I like the Naturals as faces, but I think the face turn is just setting up for an even bigger heel turn.  Candido would be proud.  Anyway, the Hardyz win a match to get the shot, then win this match to get the straps.

 

Hardyz go over NAO and AMW in a Triple Threat Elimination Match at No Surrender, when AMW are eliminated by NAO and turn fully heal by beating the crap out of the one of the NAO whilst Matt and Jeff give the Twist and Sean to the other NAO member. I think Naturals lean very heavily towards heals but a face turn will freshen the up a bit.

 

-Abyss vs. Rhino.  I just personally want to see it.  I'd have Rhino come in and just run over everyone in his path.  By now Abyss would have a mouthpiece (JIM MITCHELL!), and he'd see Rhino as trying to muscle in on Abyss' spot as the dominant monster of TNA.  I think a drawn-out program with Abyss and Rhino would be fresh and give us some really good, brutal matches.

 

I agree about Mitchell. That would be great. I just dont see what the fuss is about Rhino. I guess I would have to see what he would do if he were to join TNA. I think that given the setting Abyss should face a higher echelon TNA veteran. I think it would need a decent stip. Maybe for a NWA North American Title, Hardcore Style?

 

-Daniels' match.  If I had a pick, I'd say Low Ki, since there's history, and the match would just rock the house.  TNA actually wants to bring in Ultimo, though, which is still a good thing.  I'd probably still have Daniels retain.

 

Isnt Ultimo still with WWE? I would like to see Ultimo but not at this PPV. For me, this is the one where everything as to click and fit. Daniels-Low Ki its very easy to book. No stip necessary. Daniels should have a long title run until AJ and Raven have had god terms as NWA Champ.

 

-Killings vs. Punk.  Again, I'd just like to see it.  If Punk were to come to TNA, this would be a good fued to elevate both men.  I want Killings OUT of 3LK (Someone mentioned teaming Sharkboy and Konnan as a comedy act, which I think could work).  Punk's a long shot (along with the other ROH guys), so this was more hopeful than anything.  If I couldn't get him, I'd give Killings some kinda match where he could go over, as I really like him and think he needs to be pushed.

 

Killings should go over no matter who he faces and to be honest, him vs Abyss was more of a lack of creaativity on my part but I think we will see HHH in TNA before we see Punk. I dont know what to do with Killings but know that he needs to get back in the Title and do so very soon.

 

-Team Canada is going to start going places, like I said before.  I think your idea about them bitching about not having a place could work well.  Maybe announce that Bobby Rude is thinking about going after the World Title?

 

I personally think that nobody from Team Canada should be near the World Title. They could be pimp it buts thats most certainly it.

 

-As for the X Division match, I've never seen Shane as an X Division guy.  He can work a good match with them, but he doesn't have that style himself.  I always thought he'd do well in a heel team with Siaki, but that's just me.  TNA actually has some good X workers now, and I think Shane kinda holds it back.  Juvi's a good talent, but only now and then, as he's frickin' insane.  If I were to add Petey and Sharkboy to the mix and make it a 6-man Scramble match, that'd be cool as hell.

 

OOOOO. I forgot Petey. Therefore Sonjay-Sabin-Petey-Juvi-Skipper-Shocker. But isnt Juvi locked in with WWE? How about a returning Amazing Red or (fingers crossed Kid Kash)? I think Shane will feature in some shape or form.

 

As you can see, I am totally against bringing people in just for this event and laying the red carpet out for them. The focus should be, wow that was great, I will tune in more often to see these guys. And not, wow Joe, Messiah, Trent, Ultimo, Spanky, Austin, Brock, Rock, Xavier or whoever (I just named these randomly so dont hit out).

 

Thanks TNABaddboi

[Magus 0]

Very good ideas, zyn. While you and I would book different shows, I still agree with all of your points.

[zyn081 0]

Very good ideas, zyn. While you and I would book different shows, I still agree with all of your points.

I didnt mean my long post as being an attempt to squash you, just trying to create a discussion. Feel free to analyse my reply to your post.

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NEW MATCHES ANNOUNCED FOR SLAMMIVERSARY!

Slammiversary – Sunday, June 19 live on Pay-Per-View

 

On Friday’s Impact on Fox Sports Net, new matches were announced the huge “Slammiversary” Pay-Per-View on June 19!

 

In addition to the King of the Mountain Match and NWA World Tag Team Champions The Naturals defending against Team Canada, the following bouts are slated:

 

X DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH

Champion The Fallen Angel Christopher Daniels vs. Michael Shane vs. Chris Sabin

TNA’s top X Division superstars square off in a three-way showdown for the X Division Championship as Christopher Daniels defends against Michael Shane and Chris Sabin! With Trinity and Traci watching on ringside, along with the fact The Fallen Angel can lose the X Championship without being pinned during the bout– what better X Title match for Slammiversary than the top X kingpins in TNA!

 

LANCE HOYT vs. TEAM CANADA’S BOBBY ROODE

It will be a battle of TNA powerhouses at Slammiversary as Lance Hoyt faces Team Canada’s Bobby Roode! Their war began at the Hard Justice gauntlet, and as far as Hoyt is concerned it will all end at Slammiversary. The question is, can Lance find a way to counter the interference by Team Canada coach Scott D’Amore?

 

RON “THE TRUTH” KILLINGS vs. THE OUTLAW

The Truth will be taking matters into his own hands on June 19 as he faces 3Live Kru nemesis The Outlaw at Slammiversary! Can Killings exact revenge on The Outlaw for recently putting Konnan out of action? Tune in and find out!

 

AMERICA’S MOST WANTED vs. BG JAMES & KONNAN

In recent weeks, both the 3Live Kru and America’s Most Wanted have had their share of problems. After losing the NWA World Tag Team Title and a subsequent shot at a rematch, AMW are looking to refocus to get back into the championship picture. On the other side, Konnan’s issues with BG James are well known – can the two put aside their differences to beat AMW?

 

All this and more at Slammiversary on June 19! More matches to be announced next week on TNAwrestling.com for the huge three-year TNA anniversary show!

 

Source: http://tnawrestling.com/news/2005/5/27/news.html

 

The Positives: Looks like they are teasring AMWs heel turn and 3LK splitting up. Thank god. AMW are so stale right now. Killings has been in there way too long and we need the NAO back. BG will most probably be put in a bad light given his actions of the past week, but BG as a heel + Billy as a heel = NAO as faces. Plus the seeds have been planted for NAO vs AMW. Knowing TNA though they will split up Harris and Storm and have them feud with each other instead.

 

I guess the Outlaw for Killings makes sense, as this would further solidfy NAO, since BG can turn on Konnan and then help Outlaw beat Killings. Have Konnan and Killings as NAOs 1st oppenents at Sacrifice. Then cut Konnan lose.

 

Guess you were right Magus about Roode and I guess Hoyt is getting over with the fans. Cant really complain about this, since its been booked since the gauntlet and is a way of getting them both on the card. As long as its short. Also, Team Canada gets a title shot, so they seen as being high up in TNAs plans.

 

The Negative: Not what were expecting for the X Div, but I guess its expected and I agree with them favouring their on the books talent for their largest PPV of you. If Shanes not involved too much, Daniels should be able to get a good match out of a Stale Sabin. This would be good if they book it as Daniels overcoming the odds.

 

Re KoTM. There are a few holes still. Why isnt Abyss sole Number 1 Contender? More importantly, how is Montys involvement justified? Thirdly, who is the 5th wheel? I can understand the 1st 2 if they said like JJ has a rematch for a triple threat and believe that they could strech it to Monty deserves a chance, but how can you justify the 5th player? I have a bad feeling its going to be Raven which sucks for 3 reasons (1) he has no right to be there at this moment in time, (2) he will most probably will be portrayed very weakly, which is a given due to his current status and (3) even he were to shockingly win it, the shock factor will be at the expense of TNAs money story. Couldnt they have left it as a 4-way, with AJ trying to convince Abyss that, despite their past, they have to work together vs JJ and Monty. They also have the dissent between Monty and JJ.

 

EDIT: I like the way that the Slam promo says Professional Wrestling and not Sports Entertainment.

 

Slam is starting to remind me of the Rumble, since it starts the road to Bound For Glory.

 

I like the 3 people who are on the poster. I think its fitting. Could we see extended posters with AMW on? They are the top 5 people in TNA.

 

NOTE TO MODS: I posted this here becasue I refer to what I have said to Magus and what I have personally said in it. Should a new thread be opened for Slam or could you knock off the parts referring to Slam (and the build for Bound For Glory) and create a seperate thread?

Edited May 29, 2005 by zyn081