The one and only judgment day thread

[Guest Nevermortal]

Don't tell me HHH won......HE DIDN'T NEED TO WIN! FUCKING BLOODY FUCKING HELL!

[Guest Repo Man jr]

HHH pins Jericho on top of cell for pin. Kinda came out of no where really. Seemed a bit quick. Chuck and Billy match next.

[Guest Will Scarlet]

It is nice to see that Jericho is still his usual jobbing self.

[Guest Repo Man jr]

HHH winning sucks. Rico is the tag partner. Crowd killer match...

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

New tag champs.

 

Just super.

[Guest Nevermortal]

The WWF booking team's on crack. That's all I can say right now.

[Guest El Satanico]

Rico and Rikishi won the titles? How wonderful. I just hope it doesn't mean that Rico is turning on Billychuck. And if they wanted to do the partner accidently beats his own team but tries to lose the belts back to his team couldn't they had used someone better?

 

Hopefully this leads to the Island Boys coming out and giving us an actual tag fued with Billychuck/Rico vs. Island Boys/Rikishi. Billy Gunn and Rikishi part of a tag title fued isn't actually something i cared to see, but any feud between actual teams is good at this point.

[Guest Repo Man jr]

Angles bald. Taker has new horrible music that will make sure the crowd never e..e..e..EVER pops for him, again!

[Guest HartFan86]

I loved Taker's new thing....so  much for the tag match.

[Guest El Satanico]

GOOD...it's about time the supposed "heel" Undertaker got rid of audience friendly music.

[Guest]

Angles bald. Taker has new horrible music that will make sure the crowd never e..e..e..EVER pops for him, again!

What new music, I don't have PPV?  Or should I be afraid of the answer?

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Hogan moves like molasses, as usual.

[Guest Mole]

Okay, this doesn't make any sense. Jericho has lost all of his credibility now. Wow, HHH sure is cool...

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Just some generic crap.

[Guest El Satanico]

Something in WWeee not making sense? No way...i'm blown away that anyone can think that WWeee doesn't make sense.

[Guest HartFan86]

I'm cheering for Taker.

[Guest Repo Man jr]

worst chokeslam ever! And yeah, Takers music is like jobber music but less good.

[Guest El Satanico]

I'm cheering for a worm hole to open in the middle of the ring, swallow Hogan and Undertaker and sends them to prehistoric times where they'd fit in better.

[Guest Repo Man jr]

Takers champ and the crowd seems happy!

[Guest El Satanico]

Undertaker as champ how interesting...yaaawn

[Guest Raven_Effect01]

Okay, this doesn't make any sense. Jericho has lost all of his credibility now. Wow, HHH sure is cool...

I was pissed when I saw HHH pin Jericho tonight too.  Now how the hell are WWE going to build Jericho back up as a threat if HHH keeps using his backstage politics on Jericho just to ensure Jericho NEVER gets a clean win over him on PPV?  This bullshit of making Jericho looking weak to HHH by having him job to him so much has got to stop, because it's been going on for 2(or 3, since Nash in 1999 told HHH to hold Jericho back as soon as he came in) fucking years now!  Damn, I guess now we'll get to see Stephanie put herself back on TV and HHH lays down for her while Jericho's facing the likes of Rikishi and Mark Henry, bleh.  Just another typical day in WWE: McMahons, HHH, Hogan, etc. all running the show, holding deserving wrestlers back, whoop-dee doo.

[Guest bcu1979]

Unfuckingbelievable. Let me get this straight. It's not enough that Triple H has to pin Jericho 1-2-3 with the pedigree yet again. But he has to have him beat at several points during the match, only the ref is apparently down and can't count the pinfall. Did he just put one foot on top of Jericho to pin him or piss on him while the ref was counting? He might have well since after three years of trying he has successfully put the final nail in the coffin that was Chris Jericho's career.

 

Would it have killed Triple H to let Jericho kick out of a pedigree? Or tap out to the Walls without a ref around? Is there any reason (other than politics) for HHH to win that match?

 

Meanwhile, Undertaker is now champ, Vince interferes in more main events, Austin beats up 3 men by himself, and Angle gets to play more comedy angles. I'm glad I didn't waste $35 on this.

 

I always felt that the WWF would get better. No matter how much I complained, I always felt that the pieces were all there and it was only a matter of time before the WWF started kicking ass again. But after the last couple months, I just don't know anymore.

[Guest the pinjockey]

Fuck HHH. And fuck me for buying this crap thinking things might change in the WWF.  Do you think that he remembers that it took Mick Foley bending over backwards and letting him retire him to get him over?  Fuck that piece of shit.  It took a legend retiring, marrying the bosses daughter, and a shit load of needles to get his sorry ass over and the fucking asshole is afraid of  giving someone who didn't need all of that to get over an important win.  Gee why are the ratings dropping we have a world title match between the two oldest wrestlers in the company, one of the top heels in the company has been turned into a comedy character, and the other top heel is jobbing to HHH whenever he needs to get a win back, whenever he has a bad day, or whenever else in general he damn well pleases.  And how many more times are we going to have to hear JR say "Well Jericho took him to the limit, but the Game managed to survive." There is a finite amount of times that you can use that line until it turns into "Well Jericho jobbed again, the Game will move into a title fued and Jericho will keep running on the treadmill facing Chris Benoit every night"  So as of now I imagine KOR will be either HHH/UT or a Hogan/UT rematch(highly unlikely).  WOW.  Here is hoping they give the book to Heyman and he books Lesnar to squash HHH every night, Hogan and UT to wrestle each other in attraction matches every pre-PPV Heat and we get back to the **** main events that we were having on a regular basis before the glass ceiling that was supposedly broken down in every interview WWF employees did magically reappeared (and you know January 7th seems to be giving me a weird feeling about that concept hmmm I wonder what that means).

 

Sorry I don't usually like to post shit like this but fuck HHH fuck him up his stupid ass (I know that was used by someone else in this thread already but it fits so well)

[Guest Flyboy]

Oh boy, did THAT suck.  I mean... I gave the PPV a chance, but c'mon.  

 

I sure Respect The 'Taker has orgasmed already.  (j/k)

 

The only really good spots of the show were RVD/Eddy and Angle/Edge (although, I think the match was drawn out a bit).  

 

We had to choice between Hogan as champ or UT as champ... thanks WWE.

 

I don't really think the WWE has a clue what to do... only time will tell before they die a slow death.

[Guest Mole]

Okay, I didn't really like the fact HHH won, but what's with the HHH pull bashing?

 

Do you know for a fact that HHH books himself to win? Do you know for a fact that he sits in the booking meetings and says "Ohh, that Jericho. He sucks, lets push him down the card." Ahh, no.

 

Besides, as much as I like Jericho, he barley ever gets great heel heat. Not like Angle, or HHH used to get. So why should Jericho get the win when he isn't over? He shouldn't.

 

I bet anyone here, if someone like Taker, who isn't that over as a heel, won a match, then people would bitch. Not just because he sucks, but because he isn't over. Oh wait, that did happen...

[Guest TheHulkster]

Boo Hoo Jericho lost *sniff* it doesn't make sense *sob* Why?!?!?!

#1 Where could they have gone with Jericho if he had won? Are you going to pit Jericho vs Taker at KOR? I thought not. Jericho, as talented as he is, isn't a draw as a main event. I know, i'm shocked too. I don't know where people get the idea that he'd be such a great main eventer and would be such a huge draw if these political forces weren't conjuring evil plots to hold him back. If you actually believe that line of BS, I got a bridge I would like to sell you.

 

#2 It was a great match, so why bitch? Does it really matter who wins and loses? The Rock loses all the time, the fans still believe he can beat anyone in the WWE in a match. The same goes for Kurt Angle. Angle just lost to Edge, but if he wrestled Taker for the world title on Thursday, the WWE fans would think he could beat him. Im more grateful that these guys bust their asses to put on a good show than if one guy wins and one guy loses, but some people are petty I guess.

[Guest cabbageboy]

I think I am the only one who liked this PPV.  There are certain realities in the world that I am attuned to.  First, if Hogan is in a promotion, he is going to win a title and main event.  I tune it out, therefore it doesn't bother me.  His match with UT tonight was no classic but it was better than the 1991 matches (those SUCKED).  Second, Jericho is basically a big name job bitch.  He is Macho to HHH's Hogan, he will never ever beat HHH in a meaningful match.  I don't even particularly care to be honest.  Now it seems Edge gets to play the Game, and man I feel sorry for him.  

 

The Edge/Angle match was excellent but the ref bumps and a long rest section kinda hurt it.  The near falls are terrific though.  It's just the stuff up to those near falls that isn't so amazing.  

 

Hell in a Cell was good but certainly not the best that gimmick has to offer.  As I predicted neither man would take a sick bump that is necessary to make it a truly amazing match.  And yes, the finish was kinda strange.....I mean ending on the top of the cell?  What is that?  Very good though.

 

I'm not sure why many people haven't mentioned the RVD/Eddie match more.  It was fabulous.  I guess the lack of a goofy stip or a gimmick cage made it slip by unnoticed.  It was a better match than Backlash and slightly better than the house show match I saw the other night (same finish though with Eddie's feet on the ropes).  All this match needed was a rapid series of near fall reversals and it would have been damn near perfect.  I enjoyed this match the most for a few reasons:

 

1.  No bullshit politics, just two guys willing to put each other over.

2.  No resting (a double KO isn't resting in my book).

3.  No ref bumps.  

 

Anyone else feel this way?

[Guest Flyboy]

Besides, as much as I like Jericho, he barley ever gets great heel heat. Not like Angle, or HHH used to get. So why should Jericho get the win when he isn't over? He shouldn't.

I think Jericho was up there when he was fueding with Rocky for the WCW Title.  

 

Plus, when you say why should Jericho get a win when he's not over?  Well, if he DID get a win maybe it would have gotten him over.  HHH won fair and square... if Jericho would have won fair and square the fans would have been pissed and Jericho could be over.  What did HHH gain from this?  He's already over (well, he's not THAT over, but as over as he gets) and he's already beaten Jericho plenty of times.  Not counting the time he beat HHH for the #1 Contendership, Jericho has been playing HHH's personal bitch.  And that is fact.

[Guest Kinetic]

#1 Where could they have gone with Jericho if he had won? Are you going to pit Jericho vs Taker at KOR? I thought not. Jericho, as talented as he is, isn't a draw as a main event. I know, i'm shocked too. I don't know where people get the idea that he'd be such a great main eventer and would be such a huge draw if these political forces weren't conjuring evil plots to hold him back. If you actually believe that line of BS, I got a bridge I would like to sell you.

Do you think he might just be a little more over if he was booked to look like he was in Triple H's league?  While none of us may know that Triple H himself is responsible for destroying Chris Jericho's credibility, it should be pretty evident that someone's doing it.  I'm not going to tell you that winning that match tonight would have completely made Jericho, but it certainly would have helped.  He needed a big win where it didn't look like he completely lucked into it after being thrown around like a jobber for twenty-five minutes and Triple H didn't give it to him.

[Guest Flyboy]

I'm not sure why many people haven't mentioned the RVD/Eddie match more.  It was fabulous.  I guess the lack of a goofy stip or a gimmick cage made it slip by unnoticed.  It was a better match than Backlash and slightly better than the house show match I saw the other night (same finish though with Eddie's feet on the ropes).  All this match needed was a rapid series of near fall reversals and it would have been damn near perfect.  I enjoyed this match the most for a few reasons:

 

1.  No bullshit politics, just two guys willing to put each other over.

2.  No resting (a double KO isn't resting in my book).

3.  No ref bumps.  

 

Anyone else feel this way?

I do... and people say RVD can't work physchology in his matches.  The guy might not be great, but he sure is learning.  He didn't blow all of his spots and the match was worked beautifully.

 

I say this fued goes through KotR where the two meet in the finals or something... or they both get eliminating in the qualifying and do a Ladder Match at KotR for the IC Title.  Something like that.  The fued isn't over... maybe they have one more good match up their sleeves.