Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2005 Damn, Stevie is fucking awesome. It's hard to tell what's real and what's kayfabe in that interview (which is a GOOD thing). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really. The whole thing doesn't make very much sense at all anymore. Richards is upset is because Bradshaw beat up Meanie. But isn't the point of wrestling that the other guy gets beaten up? But then that's just kayfabe, but the fact that he wasn't careful is now part of a storyline but... So Richards beat up Bradshaw in a storyline as revenge for a stiff shot, in an angle that basically says "Storyline beatdowns shouldn't hurt as much?" So he gave him a storyline beatdown? What the hell? You see where I'm going here. Worked shoots are absolutely terrible for this company, since they can't figure it out right. If the storyline is that storylines as a whole are pre-planned and don't hurt much, than what's the point of even having a storyline in the first place? You just made everybody else on the show look bad by calling what they're doing phony. ECW managed to save themselves from this corner by making EVERYTHING look like a shoot, and as a result becoming an entirely new kind of work by itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 9, 2005 Damn, Stevie is fucking awesome. It's hard to tell what's real and what's kayfabe in that interview (which is a GOOD thing). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really. The whole thing doesn't make very much sense at all anymore. Richards is upset is because Bradshaw beat up Meanie. But isn't the point of wrestling that the other guy gets beaten up? But then that's just kayfabe, but the fact that he wasn't careful is now part of a storyline but... So Richards beat up Bradshaw in a storyline as revenge for a stiff shot, in an angle that basically says "Storyline beatdowns shouldn't hurt as much?" So he gave him a storyline beatdown? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I look at it (in storyline terms) as JBL beating up Meanie so bad that Meanie was "injured" (re-opened stitches in reality). In other words, JBL targetted Meanie because he wanted to severly hurt someone and Meanie was much weaker than JBL. The ECW wrestlers were already pissed at JBL for invading, now they have another reason as he tried to severly injure a wrestler who's never really hurt any of them. Remember Paul Heyman putting over the fact that ECW's "court jester" was attacked? The bWo also seemed to imply that JBL "overlooked them" by hurting Meanie so badly, so I'm guessing that is a factor. ECW managed to save themselves from this corner by making EVERYTHING look like a shoot, and as a result becoming an entirely new kind of work by itself.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't know, I have a feeling that Heyman heavily contributed to this angle. As I mentioned above, he really seemed to be pushing for it on WWE.com (even though that was mostly in kayfabe). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyn081 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2005 Everything about WWE seems more "smark" since One Night Stand. Shoot promo's, the website, Chris Jericho title match, Flair vs Angle, bWo, HBK heel turn. It's like they're finally tuning into the "net" for advice. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which can be both a gift and a curse if not used properly. The 'net has a lot of good ideas where to take things and such, but the 'net also has biases that aren't necessarily good for business. It's a matter of taking the good ideas and exploiting them, but at the same time appealing to the larger demographic, the marks. If things get too "inside", you risk alienating a larger segment of the viewing audience for a smaller one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Try explaining that to RoH fans. But remember that kick-ass promo that Benoit cut on Austin about how Austin doesn't do much wrestling? "I'm talking about real wrestling, Steve. No chef hats, no monster trucks, no middle fingers. Do you remember what that is, Steve?" That was a great promo because anyone who has followed the show for a number of months knew that Austin matches had more style over substance and those who watched longer took the "do you remember that" line as a reference to the old days when Austin displayed more technical skill than he does in his PUNCHPUNCHSTUNNER period. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you. People will still flame for preferring HHHs work over SCSA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gary Busey Report post Posted July 12, 2005 "It's not right, if it's not WHITE!" Check out Kerwin's promo on the main WWE page at the bottom. If they keep putting up so much interesting content, WWE.com may actually be a site to visit on a regular basis now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites