College Football is almost back

[Secret Agent 0]

I don't understand these preseason polls. Is it based off last years performance? If so how in the world is LSU, Michigan, and Ohio State ranked ahead of OU? They only lost 1 game. :\

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Partly. But it is also last impressions and how many people you bring back. Look at Auburn, who lost zero games, and are ranked something like 20. Utah, while a somewhat different case, isn't even ranked.

 

In Oklahoma's case, they lose a bunch of players, including a Heisman trophy winning quarterback, and the last time people saw, they were being destroyed by USC. Translation: Most people have less confidence in them so they will be ranked lower.

 

The reverse is true for USC. Everyone is appointing them as an invincable juggernaut. Why? Because they return their Heisman winning quarterback and were last seen destroying an excellent Oklahoma team. Everyone forgets the close calls against Oregon State, UCLA, California, and Stanford.

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Right on.

 

LSU is on the rise because of the massive amount of talent coming back.

 

1. They return 3 RBs that could start at any top-line program but USC or Oklahoma (Alley Broussard (now injured), Justin Vincent, Joseph Addai)

 

2. They return 4 very talented WRs and a TE, including some that are much healthier now than last year. (Skyler Green, Dwayne Bowe, Xavier Carter, Early Doucet, and TE Davy Jones)

 

That doesn't include Amp Hill, who only quit LSU this week to transfer to a different program where he had a chance to play.

 

3. They have 3 very talented QBs, although none have put it together full-time yet. (JaMarcus Russell, Matt Flynn, and #1 QB recruit in the nation Ryan Perriloux)

 

4. They return a very experienced O-Line that has at least 2 NFL prospects.

 

 

The defense is a little more depleted, but I think there's a lot of raw talent that new Defensive Coordinator Bo Pelini can whip into shape.

 

 

Also, 2 of their 3 losses were last-second defeats that could have been avoided if one player hadn't gotten a penalty at Auburn or blown a coverage against Iowa in the Capitol One Bowl.

 

(The Georgia loss, however, was a total shitkicking revengefest by Mark Richt's boys, which was due to LSU owning them twice the year before)

 

 

This puts them ahead of Auburn, who went undefeated but lost their entire offense and some of their top defensive players.

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You forget one thing though; they have new head coach Les Miles. While this guy has done some good things the one thing he's yet to really learn how to do is win a football game. Take last years game of Oklahoma State Vs. Texas as a major example and there are several others from that season as well.

[teke184 0]

Les has some better help at LSU than he had at OSU...

 

Defensive Coordinator Bo Pelini and Offensive Coordinator Jimbo Fisher both know how to win.

 

Jimbo ran the offense for LSU the last few years, including the title year in 2003. (Saban was a defense guy, so Jimbo had a pretty free hand.)

 

Pelini won a lot at Nebraska then was the Defensive Coordinator at Oklahoma, which is pretty good except for two particular losses in that timeframe (Against KSU in the Big 12 title game and the ass-raping they got from USC in this year's BCS title game).

[Damaramu 0]

Pelini wasn't the D-Coordinator when OU played KSU in the Big 12 title game. He was the interim head coach at Nebraska during this time. He only coached for OU during the 2004 season.

Before that we'd had one of the best secondaries in college football every year. However with Pelini in there he started changing shit and getting the players to play roles they weren't used to playing and well we saw how bad OU got ass-rammed anytime someone decided to throw the ball deep(OSU, A&M, USC).

Pelini is a finesse coach and OU was used to an in you god damn face Mike Stoops hard-ass type.

Maybe LSU needs a finesse guy like Pelini but I can tell you that he screwed up big time at OU.

[Damaramu 0]

Did anyone catch Mack Brown basically blowing OU on Cold Pizza this morning?

[Damaramu 0]

http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.db...0&ATCLID=178537

 

OU just lost their best defensive lineman for the season......SHIT!

[CanadianChris 0]

Here's the complete list of former players, coaches, and some other people who will be voting in the new Harris Poll. Really how much college football do you think Terry Bradsaw watches?

 

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Esiason, too. Why would you pick someone who works on an NFL pregame/in-game show, who presumably needs to watch a ton of pro football during the week to prepare for his job, to participate in a COLLEGE football poll? Some of these guys won't be any better than the coaches who have their assistants fill out their ballots.

[Bored 0]

To tide everyone over for the next week until the season begins here's a link that was posted on the DVDVR board a few weeks back comparing rappers to college football programs. Some pretty funny stuff.

 

Link

 

Here are just a few I pulled out.

 

Virginia Tech/Mystikal

 

Sex offenders.

Baylor/Amil

 

Once subject to credibility by association, but only good for wisecrack fodder these days. Stumbled upon said association by dumb luck (Texas governor at the time of Big XII formation was a Baylor grad, Amil has female genitalia). You cared about them for a split second (beating TAMU, servicing Jay-Z for a part in "Can I Get A"?) and thought better of it the next second.

Tulsa/R. Kelly

 

If you know what Tulsa's nickname is, this should require no further explanation.

Washington/Redman

 

Shared a time of national prominence (not a title- Ed.) with Georgia Tech/Method Man. A hallmark of 1990's excellence, and extremely difficult to dislike. Yet, on an unspecified date in the 21st century, they decided to zone out completely, and have paid for it by being pretty much M.I.A. for the last couple of years. Not a lost cause, but they just need someone to get their ass in gear.

Indiana, Duke, Kansas & UConn/The Black Eyed Peas

 

Look, we all knew they were wack as fuck from the get-go, but at this point, it barely merits a mention. Making fun of them is almost redundant, but you figure they have no trouble paying their bills. There's supposedly a breakout star (UConn/Fergie) in here, but I seriously have my doubts if the public really cares. Absolutely no one would shed a tear if they disappeared completely.

[teke184 0]

My favorites not already mentioned:

 

- Penn State/KRS-One

 

They'll be the first to tell you how important they are in the scheme of things and new jacks need to give them respect, but that doesn't shake the fact that they haven't been relevant in years.

 

 

 

- Nebraska/Notorious B.I.G.

 

For a couple of years they were completely unstoppable, and then they had to go get freakin' killed. Incredibly poor post-mortem management.

 

 

- Kansas State/Master P

 

Experienced the terrifying lows, dizzying highs and creamy middles of the game and still managed to be a laughingstock at all points. Got fat off of appealing to the lowest common denominator, and will take every shady-ass piece of talent to continue doing so.

 

 

 

- West Virginia/Three 6 Mafia

 

Known for inspiring an inordinate amount of property destruction.

 

 

- SMU/MC Hammer

 

Parlayed a surprising run of success into an enormous facility they couldn't possibly continue to fill. Suffered so-called "death penalties" when the money finally ran out. Now mostly known for their religious wheelings and dealings.

 

 

- Southern Miss/David Banner

 

The gritty alternative to the magnolias & mint juleps reputation of Mississippi. Always just a little shy of blowing up on a nationwide level, but they've got the respect of nearly everyone. Have little problem hanging with the alpha dogs of the game.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

A UVA grad came up with that when he was thinking about how well UVA football correlated to Mobb Deep's career. Really true. I love just about all of the matchups.

[Damaramu 0]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2143140

 

Paul Thompson is the starter at OU.

[Secret Agent 0]

I think he's earned that oppertunity. Now lets see if Thompson can lead us to the Rose Bowl.

[Damaramu 0]

Man ESPN is really up on USC's nuts. I mean it's understandable but god damn I don't remember them blowing Miami from a few years ago close to this much.

What will they write about now if USC loses?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

"Uhh... that was a fluke loss!"

[Damaramu 0]

Probably. They're promoting USC as the greatest team ever currently. I remember them doing that with another team and they suffered a gigantic meltdown.

USC is not the best team ever nor is it the best football program ever. It's in the Top 5 along with Michigan, ND, Bama, and OU but it's not as great as ESPN is making it out to be.

ESPN jumps on everything that's good though and inserts it's cock into their mouths.

Hell if OU was in USC's position you'd probably all say that I'd be loving the attention but I'd be sick of ESPN probably.

[Gert T 0]

You just have to have a good article ready about the team that beats them.

 

In all honesty though, I don't see them losing until the Rose Bowl, and if that happens they los tto the #2 team in the country. So the loss would be shocking, but they could spin it.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah well ESPN is on a bandwagon. I see their Heisman poll where they have Leinart and Bush at the top.....I'm sorry but Bush finished last in voting last year and I don't think he'll finish high again. I know I used to say that Bush was better than Leinart but after the end of last season Leinart has made a believer out of me.

[Bored 0]

God who fucking cares? ESPN hypes the shit out of every defending champ in every sport. Patriots and Red Sox anyone? They are in the hype game, not the sports reporting game now.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Yeah well ESPN is on a bandwagon. I see their Heisman poll where they have Leinart and Bush at the top.....I'm sorry but Bush finished last in voting last year and I don't think he'll finish high again. I know I used to say that Bush was better than Leinart but after the end of last season Leinart has made a believer out of me.

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Bush > Leinart.

[Damaramu 0]

Bored got his panties in a twist again.

I care b/c I have to listen to this shit anytime I turn on MTV or when I go to ESPN's website looking for something good to read.

I'm a Red Sox fan and I'm tired of them hyping the shit out of the Red Sox to even though they still can't resist the usual Yankee blowjob.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah well ESPN is on a bandwagon. I see their Heisman poll where they have Leinart and Bush at the top.....I'm sorry but Bush finished last in voting last year and I don't think he'll finish high again. I know I used to say that Bush was better than Leinart but after the end of last season Leinart has made a believer out of me.

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Bush > Leinart.

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Leinart>Bush.

The team could still win a national title without Reggie Bush.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Umm no.

[Damaramu 0]

I think they could. Leinart is a tremendous QB and has plenty of weapons to throw the ball too and Lendale White isn't exactly a bum when he runs the football.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

But Leinart was winning because other teams thought to shut down Bush, allowing the passing game to flourish and allowing LenDale to run for yards. Bush is the best player by distraction. It's like Randy Moss being so good that his teammate receivers excel around him due to the double coverages and triple coverages vs Moss. It's the same with Bush. There's also the possibility that Leinart did well because of the system he was in and Chow. Dude, I'm an USC fan, and I do think Bush is better than Leinart.

[Secret Agent 0]

I'd be shocked if USC made it this year unscathed. While they retained some talent they lost key players as well. Besides that, it's bound to happen just like it happens to every other football program.

 

I think we might see this season end with no undefeateds.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

I'd be shocked if USC made it this year unscathed. While they retained some talent they lost key players as well. Besides that, it's bound to happen just like it happens to every other football program.

 

I think we might see this season end with no undefeateds.

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Wouldn't surprise me, to be honest. ESPN is probably jinxing USC as we speak.

[Art Sandusky 0]

I'd put Tennessee in the top five college football programs ever. It's incredible just how much this team has always won.

[Damaramu 0]

Well I'm not a USC fan but I do cover college football and I really don't think that Reggie Bush is a better overall player than Matt Leinart. I think that Bush suffers from Vick syndrome. He's a great player but he's way overhyped as being god-like.

I do agree he's a great player but I think Matt Leinart is better.

 

Now about USC going unscathed.....no way. They can get upset at anytime and there's several teams on their schedule that could do the job.

And they don't have Norm Chow. Yeah they have his playbook still and are still using his system but Chow knew the correct play to call in certain situations. You can have his playbook and system but you won't be able to call them like he did.

It's going to catch up to USC. It caught up to Miami, OU, and FSU and it'll get USC too.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

*Slaps forehead* Whatever...

[Damaramu 0]

I'd put Tennessee in the top five college football programs ever. It's incredible just how much this team has always won.

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I read this thing before that gives Top 5 programs. If you go off of Win Pct, Schedule, National Championships, and Big 4 bowls and combine it all into a points system it had the Top 5 as:

1) Notre Dame

2) Alabama

3) USC

4) Michigan

5) OU

 

What's cool about OU and I think solidifies them as a Top 5 program I found out was that we've been ranked #1 more times than anyone else(well i think actually we were tied with ND for how many weeks) and if you do like an average of rankings we come out to being in the Top 5(i think #1 actually). We've also won more games since WWII than anyone else, we've won the most games since 2000, and we have the best Bowl Winning Percentage of all time(at least that was as of last year).

 

I also read some research that supported that if you completely removed USC from the PAC 10 in history they'd be no better than a mid-major(the pac 10 that is).

[Damaramu 0]

By the way I meant in football. The PAC is good at other stuff and I know that.