Nash and x-pac threatened to quit

[Guest]

They should fire Nash. That would open up $700,000 a year to put towards Goldberg and he would actually increase ratings. Kevin Nash has done nothing to help WWF.

[Guest Black Tiger]

Looking at the nWo history so far in the WWF you can't really blame Nash.

 

Hogan couldn't be hated, they took him out

Hall got canned.

Nash got hurt.

Big Show was only used to draw heat on Flair vs Austin

Nobody gave a shit about X Pac

Booker T had no heat, for the way he joined.

 

The nWo had all this buildup coming in and it turned out to be a flop.

 

They ought to turf Big Show and add members who will garner some sort of reaction. Which is why I suggested RVD. If Goldust joins, then abandon all hope.

[Guest]

Or maybe..even, its kind of wild, you know..here goes:

 

TRY SOMETHING NEW, DAMMIT.

 

None of this nostalgia bullshit.  Screw Goldberg and the nWo, Hogan...all of them.

 

They wonder why these things got old so fast...it's because THEY ARE OLD.  THE NAMES, the logos, the talent.

 

OLD OLD OLD.

 

Fire em' all and build with what you have.  Keep the extra money in savings, just in case.  Don't blow it so quickly.

[Guest notJames]

Or maybe..even, its kind of wild, you know..here goes:

 

TRY SOMETHING NEW, DAMMIT.

 

None of this nostalgia bullshit.  Screw Goldberg and the nWo, Hogan...all of them.

 

They wonder why these things got old so fast...it's because THEY ARE OLD.  THE NAMES, the logos, the talent.

 

OLD OLD OLD.

 

Fire em' all and build with what you have.  Keep the extra money in savings, just in case.  Don't blow it so quickly.

Thank you.

 

As for saving money, forget that. Give the hard working guys like Jericho and Angle a nice juicy raise, so that maybe they'll know their hard work is appreciated.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

They should fire Nash. That would open up $700,000 a year to put towards Goldberg and he would actually increase ratings. Kevin Nash has done nothing to help WWF.

Goldberg will be like hogan. Pop ratings for maybe 2 months, then nobodys gonna give a shit, cause 6 casual fans remember goldberg and all of the real fans who DO remember him will hate it.

 

Now is the time where Vince has to cater to the wrestling fans, because the shock value casual fans are going going gone

[Guest muswp1]

Just get rid of Nash and X-Pac if they're unhappy.  It's not like they will be missed.  The NWO hasn't been over since about 1998 when it got old the first time.

[Guest bravesfan]

Nash and X-Pac may not be so doing much good morale-wise in that company, but at least we get to see more of THEM in GOOD PROMOS that may draw viewers back, instead of Bubba Dudley and whoever in some horrible Hardcore match, or booking Eddie Guerrero to actually SING on a segment for more than 5 minutes, or have Heyman look like a sex-starved pervert, or Lawler and Raven getting into a "One-Night-Only" angle...or have Tommy Dreamer drink barbicide and eat hair....which would YOU choose?

 

EDIT:

(I'm just trying to explain that none of these instances advanced ANY angle... Guerrero minus the karaoke singing would've have the SAME effect in that possible feud with Austin. That also goes with "Bubba Tough" Dudley and the others.)

 

The nWo segment last night made them finally look credible for once, not some trio of bumbling idiots who try to run away from Stone Cold, or a group that was jobbed on PPV and TV for the last few months, with NO direction as to what the Big Show was doing with Flair, why Flair doesn't seek permanent back-up in the nWo, or why Hogan and the Rock are suddenly buddies after a homicide attempt by Hogan... or why didn't Vince give a shit about Flair drafting the nWO (i.e. did not try to trade for them, or feud over their rights) makes them AGAIN look like unviable threats to even my grandmother.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

I'd choose combineing the Lawler/Raven and the Dreamer segment, have it take place somewhere besides a barber shop, get rid of Lawler and extend it for more than one night and have it around a month at least

[Guest bravesfan]

Just get rid of Nash and X-Pac if they're unhappy.  It's not like they will be missed.  The NWO hasn't been over since about 1998 when it got old the first time.

Tell this to the company that's been rehashing their same angles since 1998...

 

 

*cough* EVIL OWNER *cough*

*cough* Woman covered up by jealous guy *cough*

*cough* Freak trying to get noticed by cool face *cough*

[Guest TheMikeSC]

Nash and X-Pac may not be so doing much good morale-wise in that company, but at least we get to see more of THEM in GOOD PROMOS>>>

 

 

PROMOS?

 

As in MULTIPLE good promos?

 

I think I missed the other ones.

 

 

<<<that may draw viewers back, instead of Bubba Dudley and whoever in some horrible Hardcore match, or booking Eddie Guerrero to actually SING on a segment for more than 5 minutes, or have Heyman look like a sex-starved pervert, or Lawler and Raven getting into a "One-Night-Only" angle...or have Tommy Dreamer drink barbicide and eat hair....which would YOU choose?>>>

 

 

Well, personally, I'd choose none of the above. Failing that, I'd go with Bubba in a hardcore match over the nWo doing anything.

 

 

<<<EDIT:

(I'm just trying to explain that none of these instances advanced ANY angle... Guerrero minus the karaoke singing would've have the SAME effect in that possible feud with Austin. That also goes with "Bubba Tough" Dudley and the others.)

 

The nWo segment last night made them finally look credible for once>>>

 

 

If one ignores that the Hardy Boys beat the entire nWo in one night. Or if nobody notices that Nash and Show can't work and Waltman won't work.

 

 

<<<, not some trio of bumbling idiots who try to run away from Stone Cold, or a group that was jobbed on PPV and TV for the last few months, with NO direction as to what the Big Show was doing with Flair, why Flair doesn't seek permanent back-up in the nWo, or why Hogan and the Rock are suddenly buddies after a homicide attempt by Hogan... or why didn't Vince give a shit about Flair drafting the nWO (i.e. did not try to trade for them, or feud over their rights) makes them AGAIN look like unviable threats to even my grandmother. >>>

 

 

The nWo should be treated as non-viable threats.

 

Heck, WWE should have accepted their resignations.

                 -=Mike

[Guest One Bad Apple]

Nash not draw? but he's part of the NwO they will always draw right right guys huh no o yea right nevermind sorry i was channeling Vince from about 5 months ago

That was kinda pathetic.  

 

Try harder for succeed in the next time!

 

With Flair, Big Show, Booker T as the nWo has been must see tv instead of watching the microwave cooking popcorn.

Flair doesn't look like he's involved anymore.  So ... the nWo is worth watching becasue of Big Show and Booker?  

 

I'm glad I'm me.

[Guest papacita]

A week ago, a friend asked me what I thought about the nWo, and I told him that I thought Flair, Booker and Big Show should've swerved the group on the Raw after Judgment Day, beat all of them down in the middle of the ring and fire them. After hearing about Nash and X-Pac threatening to quit, the really think that's what they should've done, cuz as much as I like X-Pac, neither he or Nash are draws.

 

As far as wrestlers having control over their own characters, I don't see a problem with that, because the wrestlers will be that much more motivated when they're doing something that they wanna do. Not saying that they should have say in the booking, but I'd definitely say they should have at least 55% control over their characters and how they wanna be used.

[Guest bravesfan]

Nash and X-Pac may not be so doing much good morale-wise in that company, but at least we get to see more of THEM in GOOD PROMOS>>>

 

 

PROMOS?

 

As in MULTIPLE good promos?

 

I think I missed the other ones.

 

 

<<<that may draw viewers back, instead of Bubba Dudley and whoever in some horrible Hardcore match, or booking Eddie Guerrero to actually SING on a segment for more than 5 minutes, or have Heyman look like a sex-starved pervert, or Lawler and Raven getting into a "One-Night-Only" angle...or have Tommy Dreamer drink barbicide and eat hair....which would YOU choose?>>>

 

 

Well, personally, I'd choose none of the above. Failing that, I'd go with Bubba in a hardcore match over the nWo doing anything.

 

 

<<<EDIT:

(I'm just trying to explain that none of these instances advanced ANY angle... Guerrero minus the karaoke singing would've have the SAME effect in that possible feud with Austin. That also goes with "Bubba Tough" Dudley and the others.)

 

The nWo segment last night made them finally look credible for once>>>

 

 

If one ignores that the Hardy Boys beat the entire nWo in one night. Or if nobody notices that Nash and Show can't work and Waltman won't work.

 

 

<<<, not some trio of bumbling idiots who try to run away from Stone Cold, or a group that was jobbed on PPV and TV for the last few months, with NO direction as to what the Big Show was doing with Flair, why Flair doesn't seek permanent back-up in the nWo, or why Hogan and the Rock are suddenly buddies after a homicide attempt by Hogan... or why didn't Vince give a shit about Flair drafting the nWO (i.e. did not try to trade for them, or feud over their rights) makes them AGAIN look like unviable threats to even my grandmother. >>>

 

 

The nWo should be treated as non-viable threats.

 

Heck, WWE should have accepted their resignations.

                 -=Mike

Good promos in the future...there's been one already (Hogan/Rock vesus Nash post-Wrestlemania)

 

Don't get me wrong: Nash is pathetic inside the ring... SO he should just become the mouthpiece for a valuable faction ala his part in the Natural Born Thrillahs.

 

It worked with Shane and the Corporation, Vince and his Corporation and Flair with the non-Flair Horsemen....mouthpieces are much better than part-time wrestlers.

[Guest gusmahler]

* nWo can never look good as long as Nash and X-Pac are in it.  Nash was right that they have been booked pathetically, but they can't back it up in the ring, so what do you expect?

 

* Nash is not slower than Hogan.  I've posted about this since the nWo came back.  People always posted about how terrible Nash looked, ignoring the fact that, while Nash looked terrible, Hogan looked worse.  Sure Hogan gets a pop and generated some buys for XM 18 and is a legend in the business.  But he can't move.  Now that Nash has been on the shelf, people finally realized that Hogan can't move.

 

* Who cares if Steph wasn't there?  Do you really think she would have fired anyone without Daddy's permission?

 

* Who cares if Vince wasn't there?  Do you think Vince doesn't have a cell phone?  No matter who you are in the WWF, if top-dollar talent comes to you and threatens to quit, you have to call Vince.

 

* So it was Vince's idea to have 20 segments at a Karaoke bar?  Genius!