This Week in College Football 9/15 - 9/17

[Gert T 0]

I know Arkansas is not the class of the SEC, but does it look like anybody can touch USC this year? Its a good thing football is a one game deal, because I just don't see anybody beating USC right now.

[Bored 0]

Stanford just lost to UC Davis. If you live outside of Northern California and have actually heard of UC Davis, give yourself a cookie. Holy shit 1-10 season here it comes. How'd they beat Navy?

[therealworldschampion 0]

Texas Tech put 80 up on Sam Houston St. According to the article, they apparently want to put 100 up next week...

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

A few quick thoughts since I've been out most of today:

 

Stanford losing to UC-Davis. Just sit back and think about it. A Pac-10 team lost at home to a team that's probably about #3 or 4 in thier 1-AA conference.

 

Just based on the highlights, Bomar was getting his ass kicked out there by the Bruins. He took at least a couple of nasty shots.

 

Good to see ND lose. I've never liked them, probably never will, and I hate thier fight song. I played a team in HS that played that after every score and they hung 50 on us. I still wince when I hear it.

 

Also good to see Texas A&M pound someone. Sorry SMU, teach your DBs to tackle. Reggie McNeal is a beast when he's on.

 

Since I love underdogs, props to Vandy. I'd love to see them be 5-0 going into the LSU game.

 

Edit: Wanted to add that the ending of Pitt and Nebraska is one of the worst things I've ever seen outside of Pop Warner. But, based upon the final score, the ending was pretty much a representation of the whole game.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Holy shit. Isn't UC Davis not even I-AA--they're division II, aren't they? Or at least were a few years ago.

[Bored 0]

They moved up a couple of years ago I believe. Considering how apatheic Stanford fans are about the football team it wouldn't surprise me if more fans from UC Davis probably made the trip to the game. Many Stanfod alumni were upset that they scheduled a I-AA team for the first time since I think 1990.

 

Thankfully Oregon and UCLA came up with decent wins today. Arizona is only down by seven in the 4th with the ball against Purdue. Game is no where to be found on t.v. though.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

ACC games were fun today, if pretty much unsurprising. Georgia Tech rolled UConn despite Reggie Ball being in the hospital with An Undisclosed Illness, Wake and Duke actually got wins (eat dick, East Carolina and VMI!), UVA grew up a bit but still played too close in a win over Syracuse, FSU whooped BC with strong play in the first 10 minutes and last 10 minutes, Miami proved that they're okay but not great yet against Clemson, North Carolina put up a potent 3 points against Wisconsin, and Maryland's anemic offense continued to shit itself.

 

And NC State and Virginia Tech each won their games by like a million points.

[Der Kommissar 0]

If you live outside of Northern California and have actually heard of UC Davis, give yourself a cookie.

 

I have, if only because they were one of my favorite independent cupcake teams to face in the last ESPN College Basketball game.

 

A Pac-10 team lost at home to a team that's probably about #3 or 4 in thier 1-AA conference.

 

Just how bad is Stanford this year? Even Duke was able to beat up on I-AA team today with a 40-14 victory over VMI. I hope Duke enjoyed it because that will likely be their only win of the season.

[Gert T 0]

Isn't Cal-Davis home of '83 QB Draft alum Ken O'Brien?

[Vern Gagne 0]

Nice one. I think T.J O'Sullivan who for a short time was Favre's heir apparent before Rodgers went to UC-Davis has well.

[Damaramu 0]

I like revisiting quotes.

 

Hell I wonder how they'll feel when the team USC pounded comes into their house and beats them? Probably won't feel too good.

Although I heard someone tell me to be more worried about UCLA than Texas. I do not fear UCLA. We're going to Pasadena to beat up USC's little brother.

 

 

 

It's funny that you bring this all up and throw it in my face like I was spouting it last week. I said it before the season ever started!

Did you not look at Bored's contest? I picked UCLA. After the first two games I knew they were a bad team and they were going to have trouble with UCLA. I thought they might still win but I didn't think a maiming of any kind would go down.

So I really don't understand your logic b/c this was all said before the season when I thought OU was still going to be good. They've been good for 6 years so I didn't see it coming that they would suck.

So yeah.....your attempt at a burn baffles me when looking at it logically.

[Damaramu 0]

OU right now is reminding me of the Stonecutter episode of the Simpsons. Where Mr. Burns is lower than Lenny and Lenny kicks him around and burns crawls off saying "Climb the ladder Monty."

That's right. We've pushed everyone around and now it's time for us to bend over and take what's coming to us......climb the ladder boys. This might be good for this team in the long run. I'm HOPING that getting pushed around will piss them off and make them better and make them not want to suffer defeat like this again. THEN AGAIN I said that after the KSU loss, the LSU loss, and the USC loss and they seemed each time to come out like they didn't care.

[Gert T 0]

The Stanford loss pissed me off because I wanted to bash Pitt for getting rid of Walt Harris. Oh well.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Pitt

[Bored 0]

Once again voters show they are unable to adjust to upsets. This week Michigan is two spots ahead of Notre Dame, who are one spot ahead of Michigan State. The Coaches Poll is even worse as Michigan is five spots ahead of Notre Dame who is four spots of Michigan State. I know Michigan beat that powerhouse Eastern Michigan this week but would have it have killed the voters to drop them below Michigan State? And they still have Iowa a spot ahead of Iowa State. Again the Coaches Poll is even worse with Iowa State not even close to even being ranked yet Iowa is. Remeber that poll is still helping to decide the national champion. What a joke.

 

New AP Top 25

 

1. USC

2. Texas

3. LSU

4. Virginia Tech

5. Florida

6. Florida State

7. Georgia

8. Ohio State

9. Lousiville

10. Tennessee

11. Purdue

12. Miami

13. California

14. Michigan

15. Georgia Tech

16. Notre Dame

17. Michigan State

18. Arizona State

19. Texas Tech

20. Alabama

21. Iowa

22. Iowa State

23. Virginia

24. Oregon

25. UCLA

 

Dropped Out: Boston College, Clemson, Oklahoma, Fresno State

 

26. Clemson

27. Boston College

28. Auburn

29. Wisconsin

30. Minnesota

31. Texas A&M

32. Colorado

33. West Virginia

34. Penn State

35. Fresno State

36t. Toledo

36t. N.C. State

36t. UTEP

36t. Vanderbilt

40. Utah

[Urban Warfare 0]

Vandy ahead of OU makes me laugh.

[iggymcfly 0]

I think they'd be better off using Iggy's rankings to decide who should play in the Rose Bowl. Honestly, they would. Sure, I don't have any credibility or nationwide recognition, but that doesn't mean I'm not better at ranking football teams.

 

They'd just have to make sure to pay me a decent salary so that when Mack Brown comes to my house with $50,000 in December, I wouldn't be tempted to compromise my integrity.

[Urban Warfare 0]

USA Today Coaches' Poll

 

1. USC (60)

2. Texas (2)

3. LSU

4. Virginia Tech

5. Florida

6. Georgia

7. Florida State

8. Louisville

9. Ohio State

10. Purdue

11. Tennessee

12. Miami

13. Michigan

14. California

15. Georgia Tech

16. Texas Tech

17. Arizona State

18. Notre Dame

19. Virginia

20. Alabama

21. Iowa

22. Michigan State

23. UCLA

24. Wisconsin

25. Boston College

[Damaramu 0]

Just ouch. First time in 89 weeks that OU isn't ranked and for good reason! I'm not even sold on the fact that we can beat bottom tier teams in the Big XII. And a bowl? I don't even know if that'll happen!

[cabbageboy 0]

The question was posed earlier "Who could beat USC?" Well let's take a look at the top 10:

 

1. USC (60)

2. Texas (2)--They got sorta lucky against Ohio St. and in a bleh Big 12 they certainly can run the table....but why do I have a feeling the Longhorns will find some way to fuck up?

3. LSU--The SEC is too tough to go unbeaten in and after seeing them go to the wire with AZ St. I tend to doubt they'd be a major threat to USC.

4. Virginia Tech--I'll have to see more of Marcus Vick to say, but it'll be tough to go unbeaten in the ACC.

5. Florida--Color me somewhat unimpressed with the Tenn. game. They'll probably lose to someone in the SEC (Georgia?).

6. Georgia--See comments on everyone else in the SEC. Too tough to go undefeated, though I think they've been solid thus far.

7. Florida State--USC would beat them by 30 pts....I really hope this doesn't happen.

8. Louisville--You know, if U of L can win a tough road game at WVU running the table looks fairly feasible. Shame Oregon St. doesn't play USC this year, I'd like to see the Trojans top the bitchslap from yesterday.

9. Ohio State--They have 1 loss, so it'll be tough unless they run the table to get to the Rose Bowl. It WOULD produce a nice Big 10/Pac 10 game however.

10. Purdue--Yeah right.

 

So to sum up, a lot of these SEC teams will beat each other up so no one will be a truly national title contender. The ACC teams likewise. It is Texas's spot in the Rose Bowl to lose, though I don't think they'd fare terribly well against USC. Even if U of L goes undefeated I'm not sure the BCS would put a team from the shitty Big East in the title game over a 1 loss team from the SEC or ACC.

[iggymcfly 0]

Given USC's skill and Texas's schedule, I really can't imagine how either one of them could lose during the regular season. The way I see it, everyone else is completely screwed. Even if someone like Florida, LSU, or Va. Tech has a magical season and ends up as the best team in the country, there's just no way that they'll make it to the Rose Bowl.

 

On the bright side, if we have another year with a major conference undefeated getting screwed out of their chance at a championship, maybe we'll see a little motion on a playoff. You'd think that under enough pressure, the university presidents will have to at least consider a change.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Thought everyone was calling an upset of USC?

[Guest Vitamin X]

I like revisiting quotes.

 

Hell I wonder how they'll feel when the team USC pounded comes into their house and beats them? Probably won't feel too good.

Although I heard someone tell me to be more worried about UCLA than Texas. I do not fear UCLA. We're going to Pasadena to beat up USC's little brother.

 

 

 

It's funny that you bring this all up and throw it in my face like I was spouting it last week. I said it before the season ever started!

Did you not look at Bored's contest? I picked UCLA. After the first two games I knew they were a bad team and they were going to have trouble with UCLA. I thought they might still win but I didn't think a maiming of any kind would go down.

So I really don't understand your logic b/c this was all said before the season when I thought OU was still going to be good. They've been good for 6 years so I didn't see it coming that they would suck.

So yeah.....your attempt at a burn baffles me when looking at it logically.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Logic, college football, and you is not the correct combination. Please try again.

 

Though I did succeed in getting you all riled up over some simple gloating, which I am, after all, entitled to considering how UCLA's program's gone since the late 90's. Cut me some slack, buddy, it's all in good fun.

 

In the meantime, I think I should make note that people really, really underestimate the Pac-10. Okay, Stanford sucks, but it seems like noone outside of USC gets much respect. Cal, Oregon, and UCLA I think are proving that line of thinking wrong.

[iggymcfly 0]

UCLA shouldn't pat themselves on the back too much for beating OU. Honestly, I don't think the Sooners would finish in the Top 3 in the MAC right now.

 

Collegefootballnews.com ranks all 119 teams and they have Oklahoma at #54 this week.

 

I will agree that the Pac-Ten's gotten better though. Cal and ASU are both for real, and UO, WSU, and UCLA all look to be solid teams that could easily make the leap to being legitimate Top 25 squads.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I agree that that's about where OU belongs, but CollegeFootballNews is largely pretty worthless. They ride hype machines harder than anyone else, and they change their opinions of a given team from "likely BCS champ" to "total disappointment" in the span of a week, or vice-versa. Not much for the big picture. I enjoy reading their stuff just because there's so much content each day that there's usually something interesting, but as far as analysis goes, there are only one or two guys on that site who can write about college football worth a damn.

[Damaramu 0]

I think Stoops has become complacent. He coasted over the last few seasons lost the big games and probably thought "I won my previous 3 bowl games and a national title. I'll bounce back."

However he's not bouncing back and the fire left the team with Mike Stoops.

Hopefully the 6-5 season they're having will light a fire under his ass!

Either that or he'll slowly slip into oblivion and be fired after a 2-10 season.

[cabbageboy 0]

Just wondering but how good or bad is Oregon St. in the Pac 10?

 

As far as Texas goes, I can't shake the feeling that they will manage to somehow fuck it up yet again. I'm not sure HOW or against what team (I'm thinking either TX Tech, OK St., or maybe A & M). Vince Young will have a shitty game where someone will stop his scrambling and he'll throw 3 INTs.

[Bored 0]

As of right now I'd say they are the 7th best team in the conference.

 

1. USC

2. Arizona State

3. California

4. UCLA

5. Oregon

6. Washington State

7. Oregon State

8. Arizona

9. Stanford

10. Washington

[teke184 0]

On the subject of who'll be the #2 in the Rose Bowl...

 

I think you're all giving Texas a little too much credit right now.

 

 

1. Texas has a rep for blowing games when they absolutely shouldn't. While they didn't screw up against Michigan in last year's Rose Bowl or against Ohio State this year, they'll have one game that will either be a loss or WAY closer than it should be.

 

2. While the Big 12 has talent at the top, the talent level is very shallow across the whole league.

 

Now that Oklahoma is in the shitter, that downgrades the quality of the remaining Big 12 teams considerably. Texas is the consensus #1 but teams such as Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Nebraska, Colorado, Iowa State, and (I can't believe I'm saying this) Baylor wouldn't be the #4 team in the ACC or SEC.

 

 

 

As a comparison:

 

Big 12:

 

1. Texas

2. Texas Tech

3. Texas A&M

4. Oklahoma

 

ACC:

 

1. Virginia Tech

2. Florida State

3. Miami

4. Clemson

5. Boston College

 

SEC:

 

1. LSU or Florida

2. Florida or LSU

3. Georgia

4. Tennessee

5. Alabama

6. Vanderbilt

 

 

 

When the voters start taking a look at a lot of the teams that Texas played outside of Ohio State, it may be hard to justify keeping them as #2.

 

Granted, this will require Virginia Tech, Florida, or LSU running the table to pull it off, which will be hard considering the regular-season schedules ALONE, not even counting the ACC and SEC title games.

[teke184 0]

BTW, Cabbageboy...

 

Don't judge LSU's defense too much off of that ASU game.

 

 

They just brought in a completely new coaching staff after Saban left last year and didn't get to have their tune-up game against North Texas due to Hurricane Katrina.

 

I think that affords them a mulligan under the circumstances, but only for one game.

 

 

If LSU's pass defense is like wet tissue paper against Tennessee, though, it may be a long season unless Miles puts up some gaudy Texas Tech offensive numbers to win games.