Bored's 2005 MLB Player Rankings

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Kenny Lofton at NINE?

 

Why couldn't he have done that for us?

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You could've tried playing him.

 

My favorite is that Kansas City's new center fielder rates above their old center fielder.

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Yeah, I think defense isn't figured in at all in these rankings, because I would think the 30 errors Rentaria committed would push him further down the list.

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Oh my the RF suspense is killing me.

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I think Giles is a clear #1 at RF. Abreu's second.

[Guest I miss Test.]

None of these lists matter.

 

Put A-Rod at any position and he's #1.

 

And, you all hate him because he's uber-sexness. And, he's rich. Holla.

[Guest Brian]

None of these lists matter.

 

Put A-Rod at any position and he's #1.

 

And, you all hate him because he's uber-sexness.  And, he's rich.  Holla.

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"Back in little league, they used to put the good players at shortstop. That's where I used to play. But as you get older, they move the better defensive players to the outfield."

 

- Ken Griffey Jr. on Alex Rodriguez

HUZZAH~!

[Guest I miss Test.]

Ooh, burn!

 

I guess A-Rod isn't good enough to run into walls every year and break his shoulder.

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If a shortstop is running into walls, he's doing something wrong

[Guest I miss Test.]

Jeter does that, and he's a hero.

 

A-Rod is just smart.

 

He protects his perfect physique and model good looks.

[Guest Smues]

If a shortstop is running into walls, he's doing something wrong

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Shhhhh pipe down before ESPN hears you and starts playing that damn Jeter catch from last year again.

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Right Field

 

1. Brian Giles, Padres

2. Vladimir Guerrero, Angels

3. Gary Sheffield, Yankees

4. Bobby Abreu, Phillies

5. Geoff Jenkins, Brewers

6. Emil Brown, Royals

7. Ichiro Suzuki, Mariners

8. Jermaine Dye, White Sox

9. Shawn Green, Diamondbacks

10. Jay Gibbons, Orioles

11. Jose Guillen, Nationals

12. Juan Encarnancion, Marlins

13. Larry Walker, Cardinals

14. Trot Nixon, Red Sox

15. Jasone Lane, Astros

16. Craig Monroe, Tigers

17. Mike Cameron, Mets

18. Magglio Ordonez, Tigers

19. Jeromy Burnitz, Cubs

20. Aubrey Huff, Devil Rays

21. Jacque Jones, Twins

22. Matt Lawton, Pirates/Cubs/Yankees

23. Austin Kearns, Reds

24. Nick Swisher, A's

25. Victor Diaz, Mets

26. Casey Blake, Indians

27. Brad Hawpe, Rockies

28. Alexis Rios, Blue Jays

29. Richard Hidalgo, Rangers

30. Sammy Sosa, Orioles

[Fökai 0]

None of these lists matter.

 

Put A-Rod at any position and he's #1.

 

And, you all hate him because he's uber-sexness.  And, he's rich.  Holla.

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"Back in little league, they used to put the good players at shortstop. That's where I used to play. But as you get older, they move the better defensive players to the outfield."

 

- Ken Griffey Jr. on Alex Rodriguez

HUZZAH~!

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I have always heard that the core players were pitchers, catchers, shortstops and center-fielders. When they reached the minors, the catchers and shortstops with less defensive skill would convert to the corners. Some would even stay at their natural position as far as the majors, then be asked to switch (Biggio, Delgado).

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Biggio actually went to the All-Star game as a catcher in 1991.

 

And that rating for Emil Brown is awfully high. I know these are based on this year, but there really should be some consideration of past performance.

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There weren't a whole lot of great seasons by Outfielders this season.

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Next list is a hybrid list of basically a bunch of players who didn't fit into the other lists. David Ortiz and Travis Hafner were the only two true everday DH's this year so a DH only list didn't really work. The list is the Top 30 players in plate appereance who are not on the other lists.

 

Designated Hitter & "Utility"

 

1. David Ortiz, Red Sox (DH)

2. Travis Hafner, Indians (DH)

3. Tony Clark, Diamondbacks (1B)

4. Mike Sweeney, Royals (DH/1B)

5. Raul Ibanez, Mariners (DH/LF)

6. Bill Hall, Brewers (SS/3B/2B)

7. David Dellucci, Rangers (DH/LF)

8. Jonny Gomes, Devil Rays (DH/RF)

9. Chone Figgins, Angels (3B/CF/2B)

10. Matt Stairs, Royals (1B/DH)

11. Shea Hillenbrand, Blue Jays (1B/3B/DH)

12. Rich Aurilia, Reds (2B/SS)

13. Jose Cruz Jr., Diamondbacks/Red Sox/Dodgers (CF/RF)

14. Dmitri Young, Tigers (DH/1B)

15. Jeff Conine, Marlins (1B/LF/RF)

16. Lew Ford, Twins (CF/DH)

17. Carl Everett, White Sox (DH)

18. Ryan Freel, Reds (2B/UT)

19. So Taguchi, Cardinals (RF/CF/LF)

20. Rob Mackowiak, Pirates (3B/CF)

21. Jay Payton, Red Sox/A's (LF/CF)

22. Bobby Kielty, A's (LF/RF)

23. Jayson Werth, Dodgers (LF/RF/CF)

24. Aaron Hill, Blue Jays (3B/DH)

25. Luis A Gonzalez, Rockies (2B/UT)

26. Jerry Hairston Jr., Cubs (CF/2B)

27. Scott Hatteberg, A's (DH/1B)

28. Oscar Robles, Dodgers (SS/3B)

29. Nick Punto, Twins (2B/SS)

30. Omar Infante, Tigers (2B/SS)

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On to pitchers, starting with closers. Seven factors used for closers: Component ERA, K/BB Ratio, WHIP, VORP, Field Independent Pitching, Runs Saved Above Average, and Win Shares.

 

The top 30 pitchers in saves are on the list. Saves are NOT taken into account to rank them.

 

Closers

 

1. Mariano Rivera, Yankees

2. Billy Wagner, Phillies

3. Todd Jones, Marlins

4. Joe Nathan, Twins

5. Huston Street, A's

6. Kyle Farnsworth, Tigers/Braves

7. Derrick Turnbow, Brewers

8. B.J. Ryan, Orioles

9. Brad Lidge, Astros

10. Chad Cordero, Nationals

11. Francisco Rodriguez, Angels

12. Trevor Hoffman, Padres

13. Dustin Hermanson, White Sox

14. Brian Fuentes, Rockies

15. Jason Isringhausen, Cardinals

16. Eddie Guardado, Mariners

17. Chris Reitsma, Braves

18. Francisco Cordero, Rangers

19. Bob Wickman, Indians

20. Ryan Dempster, Cubs

21. Mike MacDougal, Royals

22. Danys Baez, Devil Rays

23. David Weathers, Reds

24. Miguel Batista, Blue Jays

25. Tyler Walker, Giants

26. Armando Benitez, Giants

27. Yhency Brazoban, Dodgers

28. Braden Looper, Mets

29. Jose Mesa, Pirates

30. Keith Foulke, Red Sox

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Foulke number 30? HELL NO.

 

He should be like 3995940 or something crazy high.

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Next list for middle relievers took the Top 60 in relief apperances. Did not include Win Shares for this list since the majority of middle relievers don't register a significant amount.

 

Middle Relievers

 

1. Justin Duchscherer, A's

2. Scott Linebrink, Padres

3. Dan Wheeler, Astros

4. Al Reyes, Cardinals

5. Bob Howry, Indians

6. Scot Shields, Angels

7. Juan Rincon, Twins

8. Mike Timlin, Red Sox

9. Neal Cotts, White Sox

10. Hector Carrasco, Nationals

11. Scott Eyre, Giants

12. Tom Gordon, Yankees

13. Aaron Fultz, Phillies

14. Justin Speier, Blue Jays

15. Cliff Politte, White Sox

16. Roberto Hernandez, Mets

17. Chad Qualls, Astros

18. Ugueth Urbina, Tigers/Phillies

19. Luis Ayala, Nationals

20. Salomon Torres, Pirates

21. Todd Williams, Orioles

22. Jason Frasor, Blue Jays

23. Brendan Donnelly, Angels

24. Michael Wuertz, Cubs

25. Jesse Crain, Twins

26. Ryan Madson, Phillies

27. Gary Majewski, Nationals

28. Scott Schoeneweis, Blue Jays

29. Mike Myers, Red Sox

30. Duaner Sanchez, Dodgers

31. Andrew Sisco, Royals

32. Julian Tavarez, Cardinals

33. Jamie Walker, Tigers

34. Will Ohman, Cubs

35. Akinori Otsuka, Padres

36. Russ Springer, Astros

37. Kent Mercker, Reds

38. J.J. Putz, Mariners

39. Ron Villone, Mariners/Marlins

40. Vinnie Chulk, Blue Jays

41. Giovanni Carrara, Dodgers

42. Mike DeJean, Mets/Rockies

43. Brian Meadows, Pirates

44. Luis Vicaino, White Sox

45. LaTroy Hawkins, Cubs/Giants

46. Tanyon Sturtze, Yankees

47. John Grabow, Pirates

48. Rick White, Pirates

49. Brian Shouse, Rangers

50. Jorge Julio, Orioles

51. Damaso Marte, White Sox

52. Ray King, Cardinals

53. J.C. Romero, Twins

54. Alan Embree, Red Sox/Yankees

55. Ricardo Rincon, A's

56. Jason Christiansen, Giants/Angels

57. Steve Kline, Orioles

58. Lance Cormier, Diamondbacks

59. Jim Brower, Giants/Braves

60. Dan Kolb, Braves

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Finally starting pitchers. Seven factors used: Component ERA, WHIP, VORP, Runs Saved Above Average, Field Independent Pitching, ERA+, and Win Shares.

 

List ranks the top 120 in games started.

 

Starting Pitchers

 

1. Roger Clemens, Astros

2. Johan Santana, Twins

3. Andy Pettitte, Astros

4. Pedro Martinez, Mets

5. Dontrelle Willis, Marlins

6. Chris Carpenter, Cardinals

7. Jake Peavy, Padres

8. John Smoltz, Braves

9. Roy Oswalt, Astros

10. Mark Buehrle, White Sox

11. Carlos Zambrano, Cubs

12. John Patterson, Nationals

13. Bartolo Colon, Angels

14. Kevin Millwood, Indians

15. Brandon Webb, Diamondbacks

16. John Garland, White Sox

17. Josh Beckett, Marlins

18. Randy Johnson, Yankees

19. John Lackey, Angels

20. Ben Sheets, Brewers

21. Jose Contreras, White Sox

22. Freddy Garcia, White Sox

23. Brett Myers, Phillies

24. Cliff Lee, Indians

25. Joe Blanton, A's

26. A.J. Burnett, Marlins

27. Carlos Silva, Twins

28. Tom Glavine, Mets

29. Danny Haren, A's

30. Kenny Rogers, Rangers

31. Barry Zito, A's

32. Paul Byrd, Angels

33. Aaron Harang, Reds

34. Esteban Loaiza, Nationals

35. Mark Prior, Cubs

36. Jarrod Washburn, Angels

37. Noah Lowry, Giants

38. Tim Hudson, Braves

39. C.C. Sabathia, Indians

40. Doug Davis, Brewers

41. Josh Towers, Blue Jays

42. Brad Penny, Dodgers

43. John Lieber, Phillies

44. Shawn Chacon, Rockies/Yankees

45. Derek Lowe, Dodgers

46. Chris Young, Rangers

47. Gustavo Chacin, Blue Jays

48. Brad Radke, Twins

49. Tim Wakefield, Red Sox

50. Mark Mulder, Cardinals

51. Greg Maddux, Cubs

52. Javier Vazquez, Diamondbacks

53. Scott Kazmir, Devil Rays

54. Erik Bedard, Orioles

55. Bruce Chen, Orioles

56. Jeff Weaver, Dodgers

57. David Wells, Red Sox

58. Matt Morris, Cardinals

59. Jeff Suppan, Cardinals

60. Livan Hernandez, Nationals

61. Kris Benson, Mets

62. Chris Capuano, Brewers

63. Tomo Ohka, Nationals/Brewers

64. Matt Clement, Red Sox

65. Jeremy Bonderman, Tigers

66. Mike Mussina, Yankees

67. Jason Schmidt, Giants

68. Jake Westbrook, Indians

69. Jamie Moyer, Mariners

70. Kirk Saarloos, A's

71. Bronson Arroyo, Red Sox

72. Kyle Lohse, Twins

73. Cory Lidle, Phillies

74. Brett Tomko, Giants

75. Jason Marquis, Cardinals

76. Jason Johnson, Tigers

77. Dave Bush, Blue Jays

78. Victor Zambrano, Mets

79. Daniel Cabrera, Orioles

80. Brandon Claussen, Reds

81. Brian Lawrence, Padres

82. Mark Redman, Pirates

83. Adam Eaton, Padres

84. Scott Elarton, Indians

85. Nate Robertson, Tigers

86. Ervin Santana, Angels

87. Brian Moehler, Marlins

88. Horacio Ramirez, Braves

89. Dave Williams, Pirates

90. Mike Maroth, Tigers

91. Rodrigo Lopez, Orioles

92. Brad Halsey, Diamondbacks

93. Brandon Backe, Astros

94. Casey Fossum, Devil Rays

95. Vincente Padilla, Phillies

96. Woody Williams, Padres

97. Ryan Franklin, Mariners

98. Claudio Vargas, Nationals/Diamondbacks

99. Victor Santos, Brewers

100. Joel Pineiro, Mariners

101. Jeff Francis, Rockies

102. Chan Ho Park, Rangers/Padres

103. Runelvys Hernandez, Royals

104. Josh Fogg, Pirates

105. Gil Meche, Mariners

106. Ted Lilly, Blue Jays

107. Ryan Drese, Rangers/Nationals

108. Kip Wells, Pirates

109. Ramon Ortiz, Reds

110. Zack Greinke, Royals

111. Jamey Wright, Rockies

112. Doug Waechter, Devil Rays

113. Mark Hendrickson, Devil Rays

114. Joe Mays, Twins

115. Joe Kennedy, Rockies/A's

116. Sidney Ponson, Orioles

117. Al Leiter, Marlins/Yankees

118. Eric Milton, Reds

119. Russ Ortiz, Diamondbacks

120. Jose Lima, Royals

[CanadianChris 0]

Just out of curiosity, where would Roy Halladay have ranked if he had enough starts to make this list?

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Urbina is horrible and should be much lower.

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Just out of curiosity, where would Roy Halladay have ranked if he had enough starts to make this list?

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I plugged his numbers in and he would have come in at about #7. If he hadn't been hurt and kept at the same level the whole year he may have been as high as #3.