dubq 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 SK: I think that there wouldn't be a limit on who the CAW is, as long as it's creative, as Porter said. As for how often, I think that there should be set times/days/nights where you wrestle. Obviously we can wrestle whenever and the stats can be gathered for a site or something, but actual matches that are set for "events" should be scheduled ahead of time. I'm sure a lot of people who will be participating won't be able to be on constantly wrestling matches, so having a schedule that is flexible and works for everyone is a good idea, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 It will be hella fun if we do this right. Eventually we will have jobbers, midcarders, upper midcarders and main eventers. Titles on the line, Tag Teams will be formed. We can even do a fake tournie. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are multi-person (six man) elimination matches available online this year? Those would be fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 Wow yeah, to determine who wins the World Title. Whoo I can't wait. I think I'll try to make Simon Dean or Tyson Tomko (he will be really hard though) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lousms Report post Posted October 13, 2005 Hey guys, just a little update on some of my ideas. Now, this is probobly how I'll run my leauge, so if there's MAJOR problems, maybe you want to look for a different one or something. (I'm not trying to be an ass, just can't please everyone) Minor problems everyone can talk about. Basically I'd make a forum somewhere where the 'roster' is listed and all that stuff. Initially, match booking will be kind of random, but will get better based on wins/losses. There's no 'planned' losing, or anything like that, it's your ability that determines your wins and loses. HOWEVER, for those that are interested, I'll have an 'in character' promo board or something like that where, if that's your thing, you can get some heat with someone else, or really develope your character in relation to the company and everyone else. This might help lead to some more personal 'feud' matches or whatnot and could be really fun. I would make titles, which would be introduced in after a few weeks when we start seeing who's been winning and who's been losing. As far as actually having the cards and stuff.... I've considered a few options. Now at first we'll have 1 card a week. (a big one, consider it like a Raw and a Heat) Everyone will have an official match. Now the problem is, WHEN. It's obvious that everyone won't be on at the same time. Therefor the time of the official card will probobobly be, for example, thursday and friday. Like on the forum a person posts what times on those two days their CAW can have a match. (we'll agree on a time zone: prob Eastern) If a wrestler no-shows, it's a loss. Umm, yeah, I think that'd prob handle that. (any better ideas out there? I'm interested) As far as who can join: CAW's only, and CAW's that arn't other wrestlers. You can make a Spanky look-a-like, and even do his moves, that's fine, but don't name him Brank "Spanky" Kendrick. Let's keep it cusom like guys. Each person will be limited to either 1 CAW or 2 CAW's that are a tag team. (note: Tag team's will be much more respected then in WWE) (also- sometimes a tag team CAW may be split up and put in singles matches and sometimes a single CAW will be put in a tag match with another CAW) Aside from the 'main card' wrestlers can wrestle each other any other time. These will be like house shows. If you want, you can post that you've won on the message board and that'll count for maybe 1/2 or 1/4 (or less?) of a win that was schedualed. Well, those are some more of my thoughts.... prob how I'll run my leauge. Ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 I don't think there should be a restriction on whether the character chosen is a wrestler not in the game, one that's already in or an original CAW. Surely originals would be preferred, but anyone would be fine, as long as they aren't ridiculously overpowered. Or institute a handicap system for anyone who uses a wrestler from the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 I like the rules so far, lou. Especially the idea about "non-scheduled matches" being like house shows and only really counting for half a point (I'd stick with half, btw, but limit it to a max amount of points you can gain in these types of matches per week, month, whichever). Ie: wrestle non-scheduled matches all you want, but after a certain point you'll stop gaining half-points for it. With something like this, I 100% agree with the CAW-only rule. Normal efeds, where advancement is based off of promos, it doesn't really matter if you use a real wrestler. However, if in this game the pre-set WWE wrestlers are miles ahead of the CAWs (you only get a set # of stats to play with) then you're already at a huge advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 Why not have the two players work out when they are free to do their match for the week, if its a weekly thing, then have them do the match and report it to you? It's not like they can lie, "Uhh yeah he won." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 I've never online gamed before, but what about this. If two players are booked for a card, they amongst themselves have to figure out when they can do it within a time period or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2005 I like the fixes from Porter & Steviekick. It makes more sense to let the players do their "official" match at some point during the week - before a deadline of course - rather than setting it to two specific days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted October 13, 2005 Sounds like a great idea, one question though.... Are you gonna have a certain amount of roster spots, and is there gonna be common ground for everyone or are certain people gonna start off higher on the card so to speak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 From my understanding, they're starting with a tournament, and the seedings go from there... dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 I think a single elimination tournament would suffice. And then after that, each "official" match should count toward a ranking system, moving the wrestlers up and down depending on wins and losses. IMO, wrestlers in the same "divisions" should face eachother until they have enough points to move into the next division. ie: Rank 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, and so on. That said, wrestlers should also be able to challenge wrestlers in other divisions, and get the match but only if the challengee accepts. Maybe add a point bonus if a wrestler from a lower division defeats a wrestler from a higher division. I'm just basing this off the rules I use for an efed that I run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 If you want to make it CAW-only, extend the rules to allow existing workers not included in the game (i.e. Styles/Joe/Kobashi, etc.). I don't see much creativity outside of recreating ROH/TNA/NJPW/NOAH workers, due to everyone making unrealistic characters. Maybe it's just me, though. I could whip up an interesting character, but how do we exercise 'fairplay' in terms of their abilities? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 There would be a limit on your stats. I am pretty sure people would go "Wait, why is he rated 99?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 IMO we need to be able to use real life wrestlers who are not in the game. For example I make a CAW Tyson Tomko. Making up your own wrestler is just not fun for me and I bet I'll be wrestling against some alien somewhere down the road cause that person tries to be funny. Also this whole schedule of when who is playing who will be really hard. You have people from England here and I'm from The Netherlands so if I play against a American guy I have to stay up till what, 3.00 AM in the morning? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lousms Report post Posted October 14, 2005 Hmm, looking over all the posts, I'd probobly allow any wrestler with stats less then, say, 87 (something I'd determine later based on some real life wrestlers and how hard it is to stat up your wrestler) Anyway, thanks for all the feedback. There'd prob be a random tournyment at first, yeah. Aslo, the 2 days was just an example, in reality it'd probobly be like I post the 'card' on Mon and you have until Fri night/Sat morn. to do it. That'll leave me Sat/Sun to make a new card and such. If you're in the UK and stuff it could be more problematic, but I think it'd be ok. That's only like a 4-5 hour difference to Eastern US? Not sure specifically (but my friend from Poland is 6 hours) Anyway, I'm up pretty much any given time, randomly any week... so I think that you'd be ok finding a match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 We should all start with the same stats and you'll get better and worse when you lose and win. So after a while we will have a clear line between jobbers/midcarders/main eventers etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lousms Report post Posted October 14, 2005 HSW - The future leauge of Smackdown Vs. Raw 2006 Hey, there's my preliminary forum ... what do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Team Angle Pusher 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 It looks really good mate. I can't wait for this. Maybe you can put the rules on the forum? I just registered but who the hell is going to donate? Are you paying for this forum then? *EDIT*: Okay another thing. The limit of overall stat should be 75? I think we all start with stats like 55. And a PPV each month is going to be difficult, you got people from England and rest of Europe staying up really late just for the PPV. Actually, the matches should be for us in the evening and for you in the morning, that would work. Also, how many titles will HSW have? I'm saying: World Heavyweight Title (made by someone with Create-A-Belt) HSV Intercontinental Title (for the midcarders/upper midcarders, could call it something else, custom made) HSV Tag Team Titles (custom made, speaks for itself) HSV Hardcore Title (this would seriously rule) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 I don't want...and I refuse...to limit my CAWs to 75 only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lousms Report post Posted October 14, 2005 Well, to answer your questions, maybe in order.... I added a rules section, ironically BEFORE I saw your post. (although they're not finalized) I was hoping for info about where to start the stats. I'm ok with whatever. I thought people would complain with like 55 or the sort. As for donations... no, I'm not paying for the forum, BUT, over time, hopefully you'll see how much hard work, sweat, and tears (well at least hard work) I put into running this little leauge. (making titles, booking cards, keeping rankings, listening to whining, ect. ect.) Hopefully, after some time, you'll realize that the wonderous joy and entertainment you get from this leauge is worth a buck or two. (in the UK, that's like what, .23 cents?) You know, I don't really EXPECT anyone to donate, but hell, why not put it up there? I anticipate putting in a few hours a week, at least. That should eventually be worth something. Oh, there's incentives too! (check the link sometime) Titles, as of now, are planned as follows: HSW - and it's W not V! HSW Heavyweight Title HSW Intercontinental Title HSW Cruserweight (possibly lightweight or something) Title HSW Tag Team Titles Umm.... PPV's will have a window too... Don't worry, it'll be cool! Oh, see, if you donate 10 bucks you can get your own (hardcore) title Keep up the suggestions/input PLEASE! As to the other guy... The 75 (if that's what it ends up at) is just the STARTING stat... after you say, win 10 matches, you can add 3 more points, or whatever else we all decide on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2005 Eh... this thing is starting to be too self-involved. I just wanted to get together, wrestle a buddy on TSM, and advance through. I don't need silly rules or whatever. Sorry buddy, I hope you do well with this thing. It's just not what I necessarily wanted. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2005 As for donations... no, I'm not paying for the forum, BUT, over time, hopefully you'll see how much hard work, sweat, and tears (well at least hard work) I put into running this little leauge. (making titles, booking cards, keeping rankings, listening to whining, ect. ect.) Hopefully, after some time, you'll realize that the wonderous joy and entertainment you get from this leauge is worth a buck or two. (in the UK, that's like what, .23 cents?) You know, I don't really EXPECT anyone to donate, but hell, why not put it up there? I anticipate putting in a few hours a week, at least. That should eventually be worth something. Oh, there's incentives too! (check the link sometime) Oh, see, if you donate 10 bucks you can get your own (hardcore) title <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd get rid of it altogether if you're not expection anyone to donate. Seriously, I've been running an efed for 10 years on the side and have never asked for a cent from my members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lousms Report post Posted October 15, 2005 Yeah, me too......... and I never asked for donations either... now I am. There's no peanalty if you don't give me money or something. So what's the big deal? It's just good fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2005 and forget it if you;re trying to put a limit on overall points... the way I build my namesake he would be in the 93-97 range. Any wrestler can be beaten by a lesser one if he knows what he is doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2005 Yeah, me too......... and I never asked for donations either... now I am. There's no peanalty if you don't give me money or something. So what's the big deal? It's just good fun <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just mean it seems a little out of place to be asking for donations for something that's really supposed to be a hobby and not a job. It's not like you're doing something that everyone else can't do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites