Samao Joe

[Guest *KNK*]

Anyway, the Punk trilogy is a pretty good way to get acquainted with Joe. ROH should release those matches as a special DVD, with bonus commentary etc.

I'll pay $30 for a multi-disc best of Samoa Joe DVD set.

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ROH has two sets of Samoa Joe comps.

 

DVD #1

Best of Samoa Joe-ROH World Champion

1. Samoa Joe wins the ROH Title (closing moments of match with Xavier from 3/22/03)

2. Samoa Joe's Ring

3. Samoa Joe vs. Doug Williams...Retribution: Round Robin Challenge II 4/26/04

4. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide...Do Or Die 5/31/03

5. Closing moments of The Group vs. The Prophecy six man tag from 6/14/03

6. Samoa vs. Dan Maff...Wrestlerave 6/28/03

7. Samoa vs. Paul London...Death Before Dishonor 7/19/03

8. Samoa vs. BJ Whitmer...Wrath of the Racket...8/9/03

9. Samoa vs. Christopher Daniels...Glory By Honor II 9/20/03

10. Samoa vs. Jay Briscoes...Tradition Continues 10/16/03

11. Closing moments of Samoa Joe & AJ Styles vs. The Briscoes Brothers from 11/28/03

12. Samoa vs. AJ Styles...War of the Wire 11/29/03

13. Samoa Joe vs. Mark Briscoe...Final Battle 2003 12/27/03

 

Best of Samoa Joe Vol. 2-The Champ is Here

1. Samoa Joe vs. Low Ki vs. Dan Maff vs. BJ Whitmer...Second Anniversary Show 2/14/04

2. Samoa Joe vs. Jay Briscoe (Steel Cage Match)...At Our Best 3/13/04

3. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide...ROH Reborn Stage 1 4/23/04

4. Samoa Joe vs. Matt Stryker...ROH Reborn Stage 2 4/24/04

5. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide...Generation Next 5/22/04

6. Samoa Joe vs. Colt Cabana...Death Before Dishonor 2 Night 2 7/24/04

7. Samoa Joe vs. Rocky Romero...ROH Gold 10/25/04

8. Samoa Joe vs. Shinya Makabe...New Japan USA 6/26/04

 

 

Obviously, alot of really good matches aren't included for obvious reasons but those are good samples to work with.

[Guest Happy Go Nowhere]

Just for something different, you might want to get ahold of his match with Necro Butcher in IWA Mid South at...Something to Prove I think it was.

 

It's hardly up there with his five star stuff, but it's just something you have to see.

 

There's a really good Joe/Styles match on the PWG All Star Weekend Night 1 show as well that's probably worth a look.

[Rendclaw 0]

I'm downloading that match right now.

 

EDIT: And speaking of THE MAN~! he's being interviewed on Between The Ropes right now. He is about as laid back a dude as I have ever heard... and pretty bright as well.

 

On another tangent, was anyone else shocked to hear just how deep Low-Ki's voice was?

[Guest Happy Go Nowhere]

Does he really sound like that? I assumed he just put it on to sound tough.

 

He sounds like a badly dubbed John Woo movie.

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

Does he really sound like that? I assumed he just put it on to sound tough.

 

He sounds like a badly dubbed John Woo movie.

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I seem to recall hearing him groan during one of the triple threat matches on the TNA AJ Styles DVD, and his voice was still quite deep, I think it's just the way he is

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Considering we're in the TNA folder, do we have to be TNA specific?

 

Because as great as his matches are, that's a pretty short list.

 

vs. Sabin - No Surrender

vs. AJ - Sacrifice

vs. AJ vs. Daniels - Unbreakable

w/ Daniels/Shelley vs. AJ/Sonjay/Aries - Prime Time Special

 

And his match with Liger, if only because of the significance of him being in a TNA ring.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I found all but that last match listed on Limewire if anyone's wondering. Just look them up and you can download them.

 

EDIT: I just watched all the matches I downloaded from that list. That was my first time to see a Samoa Joe match and I'm hooked. I'm serious I think he could make the transition to WWE and make it! I think most of his moveset could be kept intact in WWE and he could adapt to the WWE Style. If Vince doesn't misuse him he might just make it in WWE someday. I haven't heard any of his promos yet though.

[Rendclaw 0]

I just watched the first five minutes of his IWA match with Necro Butcher, and all I can say is, daaaaamn.

 

"How does someone get powerslammed on their forehead??"

 

Absolutely gold. Its just a pity Punk went for the E, because the guy can talk up a storm and what he says makes sense, when he isn;t putting himself over, that is.

 

And to think that Jericho put him over big time last night.... if this keeps up, Joe will pretty much own TNA by the end of '06.

[Guest Happy Go Nowhere]

I liked the ending. It's like they were trying to con you into a shitty finish, but failed and gave you something great.

[Rendclaw 0]

Holy fucking shit.

 

Necro has to be the most masochistic wrestler I have seen since Foley.

[Guest Happy Go Nowhere]

It's just a pity they never got to have their rematch.

[Rendclaw 0]

Honestly, what could they do? That first match was so damned brutal from start to finish, what could they possibly do to top it? Have Joe actually cripple Necro? If he takes any more of those shots where his head literally hits the floor, he would be crippled at the very least.

 

That's the first time in a long time where I actually cringed during a match.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Last time I cringed during a match was Kurt Angle/Shane McMahon from King of the Ring 2001.

[Rendclaw 0]

That is absolutely nothing compared to this.

 

It was a wonder Necro didn't come away with a fractured skull.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

"How does someone get powerslammed on their forehead??"

 

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

By being a shitty wrestler. Which is what Necro is.

[Rendclaw 0]

Agreed, but it was still compelling to watch, like that three-car pileup on the highway. Necro is Mick Foley without the wrestling talent. Or the personality, for that matter.

[Tim Cooke 0]

"His mic work is his biggest flaw as he's very laid back and to the point."

 

Watch his promos after the Necro Butcher and Kenta Kobashi matches. Best mic worker in TNA easily.

[Guest Happy Go Nowhere]

I've only really seen his Necro Butcher promos...and those were pretty good.

 

Even the spit everywhere seemed a nice touch. You really got the impression he wasn't a happy bunny.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Even the spit everywhere seemed a nice touch. You really got the impression he wasn't a happy bunny.

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Please NEVER used that term when discribing Samoa Joe ever again.

 

It brings up scary mental images of Joe in an Easter Bunny outfit.

[razazteca 0]

Dear Joe,

I wanted to know how or why you came up with the "Ole' Kick" and if you are a big fan of football (Soccer)?

Mauricio Sayers

--------------------------------------------------------

Well Mauricio,

I must be honest aside from My Niece's Club Soccer games I do not watch much Soccer. Now if your talking Rugby, well that's a whole different story.

Ok OK on to the question!

Flash back to the joint ROH/FWA card in jolly ol England. Before the show was the Big "FA Cup" game (I believe, not sure but yeah I just going off of what everyone was talking about). So there I was with everyone's favorite black wrestler Low Ki watching the game and chilling out before the show. Now, part of the reason why I don't watch Soccer is because I can't help but start commentating the game like Andrés Cantor ( aka The Goooooal Guy) which is funny for the first 10 minutes then shortly after everyone wants to kill me. Alas I digress, so there I am with the finest Mexican wrestler since Mil Mascaras, Low Ki enjoying the game whilst commentating in very bad spanish with a bit of Portugeuse thrown in because it sounds so cool, and elicits the most bizarre looks from Ki.

While we are watching a Soccer commercial the infamous Ole Ole chant starts up and Ki says

"Hey I wonder if you could get the people to start that up tonight"?

Of course I stare Ki directly back in his face and proclaim

" Nah, I don't think they are into that Mexican stuff here "

Ki counters with,

"Why you scared?"

To which I replied,

"Fuck you honkey, I'll do what I want!"

Of course Ki knows me well and he KNOWS how much of a sucker I am for a challenge (Accursed Blac... err Brown Magic). Ki knew I would try something, hence when my match was up it was a "sell out at the curtain" since he smartened up AJ, and Paul.

So there I am wrestling the ZEBra Kid and I take him to the outside. Now a few ROH shows earlier I had charged Xavier with a kick on the outside which ended up going into a guardrail and looking pretty cool so I decided, why not give it another shot. So I have ZEBra kid on the outside, I ask a fan for the chair which makes another highly inebriated fan behind him scream " Give the man yer Bloody Chair ya FAGGOT!" Which made me fall in love with drunken British fans POST HASTE!

Now while I am on the outside battling with ZEBra I notice Low Ki peeking out the curtain with his seedy Italian gypsy gaze. A scornfull gaze that seemed to be challenging me, mocking me. He seemed to pierce my soul with his judgmental stare! It was all too much, for I was enraged and appalled, I was offended, yet invigorated. I felt the blood of 1000 Spanish conquistadors boil deep inside me. "How dare you, how dare you gaze upon my visage with such mirth laden contempt I say to you Low Ki, I say to you England, I say to the world, I say OLE' motherfucker O fucking LE'!

Now what happened next surprised me, as the words escaped my lips it was almost as if I had set match to kindling. The chant spread among York Hall, and spilled into the street of Bethel Green. Mothers wept with joy, hooligans danced with glee, and Turkish men choked on there Falafels in Donner Kabob shops all whilst defiantly chanting Ole, OLE'!! As each voice joined I felt the spirit of Che, Martin, and those French guys who hated cake, begin to ignite within me. I began my approach and drove my revolution clad hoof into ZEBra's face, decimated the Guardrail in the process. Afterwards I was overcome with Joy, I was BORN ANEW! I celebrated with England, for in that kick was the dreams of a million men and the desires of a billion women. Finally after a hotly contested bout with ZEBra ( who is a fine fine grappler) I stood in the ring with one question in my mind.

"Damnit, I really, really hope that guardrail isn't coming out of my paycheck"

After the show I walked up to Ki. I stared him dead in his good eye, he returned a equally menacing look and said.

"Ehh try doing that bullshit back in the States!"

Ungrateful Puerto Rican bastard!

Well Mauricio I hope that shed some light on how I came up with the "Ole' kick" or as the Ricky Martin fans call it the "Kick of Life" .

Cheers

Samoa Joe.

Samoajoe.com. OLE kick! I request, no demand Jericho vs Joe!

[Guest clockworkraven]

As each voice joined I felt the spirit of Che, Martin, and those French guys who hated cake, begin to ignite within me.

 

Awesome.

[Rendclaw 0]

Wow.

 

Just Wow.

[Guest Coffey]

The whole 'threads based on an individual wrestler' trend seems to have caught on and it seems to be fairly successful. Maybe we should do one for the majority of the roster?

 

Anyway, I bumped the other ones so I'm bumping this one too.

 

This is a quote from another forum and I'm just curious how you guys feel about it:

 

Samoa Joe needs to win the X-title and World title and carry both at the same time.

 

What do you think of that? Think it could work? Think it'd make either division look worse than before? Better?

[Mr. S£im Citrus 0]

Does Joe really talk like that? Becuase that's hilarious.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

The whole 'threads based on an individual wrestler' trend seems to have caught on and it seems to be fairly successful. Maybe we should do one for the majority of the roster?

 

Anyway, I bumped the other ones so I'm bumping this one too.

 

This is a quote from another forum and I'm just curious how you guys feel about it:

 

Samoa Joe needs to win the X-title and World title and carry both at the same time.

 

What do you think of that? Think it could work? Think it'd make either division look worse than before? Better?

 

 

I think the right way to go with Joe (and the way I think they will end up going with him) is to have him beat Styles for the title at Turning Point. Have Daniels come back for revenge...but still have Joe win and remain undefeated. (Styles and Daniels are already seen as the top of the division...so losses aren't going to hurt them). Then someone from the lower tier has to knock him off. Probably Sabin since he's probably the best prospect of the bunch to stick to the top once he's pushed there. After losing the title, Joe should be put immediatly into the heavyweight division and win that title.

[razazteca 0]

When Joe makes it to the main event who would he be working with? Would he continue working with AJ and Daniels feuding over the World title, would he rekindle a feud that worked in ROH, or do we have to suffer thru a series of Joe vs generic blond guys?

[Bruce Blank 0]

Granted I've only seen about 3 of his TNA matches but I've noticed one thing and I just have to comment

 

QUIT FIDDLING WITH YOUR FRIGGING TRUNKS!!

 

Nothing takes away the aura of "asskickery" as him adjusting his waist band ever 4 moves.

[Rendclaw 0]

When your stomach and your waistline are practically the same, that tends to happen.

[Bruce Blank 0]

When your stomach and your waistline are practically the same, that tends to happen.

unless you admit that and get some sort of wrestling gear where it doesn't happen

 

plenty of options that'd work and look better than

 

Stiff move

*fiddle with waist band*

Stiff kick

*Pull tights up in the back*

Bad ass stare

*Adjust waist band again*

 

it's a small thing but to me it detracts from the whole flow of the thing (Of course not nearly as bad as a guy getting thrown out of the ring and looks unconcious - except for him adjusting his knee pad )

[razazteca 0]

Its not as bad as Rey Mysterio adjusting his mask after ever move. Joe should wear a siglet.

[Si82 0]

Joe should wear a siglet.

*shudder*