This Week in College Football 11/21 - 11/26

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Dama, you have to stop equating me thinking someone else is better with me "denying" his greatness. Given a choice between LaDainian Tomlinson and Shaun Alexander, I'd be inclined to choose LT, however it doesn't mean Shaun isn't any good. AD is very good, but he's no Bush.

[Damaramu 0]

Still though I think it was just Texas being overconfident and not ready. I don't think it's any indication on how they're going to play in the Rose Bowl.

I mean when you blow people out and are that good and you're only 20 years old you tend to get overconfident.

Hell it even happened to the lords of football the mighty USC.

[therealworldschampion 0]

You know, I'm going to revise my statement from earlier--this isn't so much a good game as it is both teams trying their hardest to hand it to the other team.  A&M has had a pile of gifts, and Texas has had 3 or 4 chances to absolutely put this away, and sloppy play is keeping either team from getting it done.

 

Sloppy or not, though, still pretty fun to watch.

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Dama: "OMG U WOULD SAY THAT USC IS SHOWING THE HEART OF A CHAMPION WHILE TEXAS SUKS!! U R ALL A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!!!"

[Damaramu 0]

Dama, you have to stop equating me thinking someone else is better with me "denying" his greatness. Given a choice between LaDainian Tomlinson and Shaun Alexander, I'd be inclined to choose LT, however it doesn't mean Shaun isn't any good. AD is very good, but he's no Bush.

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Ok well if you're going to put Bush at one then you have to put AD JUST behind him. The edge AD has is his ability to recieve and return. Without those then he is no better than Peterson. Peterson is a prototypical I-Formation running back and he's the best in the country at that. I mean Bush makes people miss but Peterson says "get off motherfucker" and tosses them or drag them. I mean while you've seen Bush make jaw-dropping plays by leaving guys in his dust you've seen Peterson do the same by breaking tackles and dragging guys with him to the endzone.

And this seasno isn't a good indication for Peterson since he's been hurt since literally the first game of the season.

 

And the Alexander and LT thing is that Salisbury was saying Bush is JUST AS GOOD as those two. Which is total bullshit.

[Guest Leelee]

It's Sean Salisbury. Nobody cares.

[Slayer 0]

I wonder if Dama's Norman friends know that he's been actively rooting for Texas

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Dama, you have to stop equating me thinking someone else is better with me "denying" his greatness. Given a choice between LaDainian Tomlinson and Shaun Alexander, I'd be inclined to choose LT, however it doesn't mean Shaun isn't any good. AD is very good, but he's no Bush.

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Ok well if you're going to put Bush at one then you have to put AD JUST behind him. The edge AD has is his ability to recieve and return. Without those then he is no better than Peterson. Peterson is a prototypical I-Formation running back and he's the best in the country at that. I mean Bush makes people miss but Peterson says "get off motherfucker" and tosses them or drag them. I mean while you've seen Bush make jaw-dropping plays by leaving guys in his dust you've seen Peterson do the same by breaking tackles and dragging guys with him to the endzone.

And this seasno isn't a good indication for Peterson since he's been hurt since literally the first game of the season.

 

And the Alexander and LT thing is that Salisbury was saying Bush is JUST AS GOOD as those two. Which is total bullshit.

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I wouldn't put AD at #2 after this season, but if he returns to form next year, I'd have no problem putting him at #2 or even #1 if Bush underperforms/leaves USC.

 

And I don't care what ESPN says. Right now Bush doesn't begin to touch the best backs in NFL. He needs to...prove himself in the NFL climate.

[Damaramu 0]

I wonder if Dama's Norman friends know that he's been actively rooting for Texas

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My best friend is my only friend that watches football. And he knows.

I do like to promote Texas to people in my classes just because it pisses them off. Call it real life classroom trolling.

[Damaramu 0]

Dama, you have to stop equating me thinking someone else is better with me "denying" his greatness. Given a choice between LaDainian Tomlinson and Shaun Alexander, I'd be inclined to choose LT, however it doesn't mean Shaun isn't any good. AD is very good, but he's no Bush.

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Ok well if you're going to put Bush at one then you have to put AD JUST behind him. The edge AD has is his ability to recieve and return. Without those then he is no better than Peterson. Peterson is a prototypical I-Formation running back and he's the best in the country at that. I mean Bush makes people miss but Peterson says "get off motherfucker" and tosses them or drag them. I mean while you've seen Bush make jaw-dropping plays by leaving guys in his dust you've seen Peterson do the same by breaking tackles and dragging guys with him to the endzone.

And this seasno isn't a good indication for Peterson since he's been hurt since literally the first game of the season.

 

And the Alexander and LT thing is that Salisbury was saying Bush is JUST AS GOOD as those two. Which is total bullshit.

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I wouldn't put AD at #2 after this season, but if he returns to form next year, I'd have no problem putting him at #2 or even #1 if Bush underperforms/leaves USC.

 

And I don't care what ESPN says. Right now Bush doesn't begin to touch the best backs in NFL. He needs to...prove himself in the NFL climate.

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The thing is......after his freshman year and the game against Tulsa and Nebraska we know what he can do. We know how good he is. You have to take into account that he hasn't been able to perform this year because his ankle has been hurt and reaggravated repeatedly since the TCU game. So he hasn't been able to perform to standard. If he never got hurt then OU beats TCU and Peterson has 1500 rushing yards right now.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Well, I believe Reggie Bush has the Heisman locked up, especially if he has a good game against UCLA next week.

[fazzle 0]

I wonder if Dama's Norman friends know that he's been actively rooting for Texas

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My best friend is my only friend.

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[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Ron Dayne has looked good in the select games he appeared in as a Bronco, and we can't forget his Wisconsin collegiate career. Does this mean he is #1 in the NFL? No. You have to take in account EVERYTHING that happens to him. He got injured, yes, but he also underperformed because of said injuries. Like I said, if he returns to his freshman form next year, I'd have no problems giving him his props. Right now? No.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I agree with Porter on this one. On potential, Peterson is of course way up there. On actual tangible results from this year, the Pac 10's got him beat: Bush, LenDale White, Maurice Drew, and Jerome Harrison at least are all playing better than he is, 8-9 in the box notwithstanding. Peterson had about as good a year as Brian Calhoun, perhaps.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Oh God, and they give Mack a Gatorade bath and all.....I'd laugh if Young turns into Chris Simms next week in the Big XII title game.

[Guest bxtchplz3]

Great game there between Texas and Texas A&M. A lot of interesting play calls and great turnovers and such. Pretty exciting.

[Damaramu 0]

I wonder if Dama's Norman friends know that he's been actively rooting for Texas

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My best friend is my only friend.

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Fixed.

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Wow.......that joke is getting old. I predicted someone was going to do that and I was actually going to post it myself just to save someone the trouble.

 

Yeah but I'm going off of Peterson's freshman year and the fact that he's still performed well this year with the injury. If you take into account the injury and the fact the guy has been injured since the first game of the year and he didn't play in like 4 games and he still has 12 TDs and 787 yards? He only had 15 TDs all of next year and he an probably get 3 TDs and 150 yards against OSU.

The dude's amazing. And if you just watch him run you know he's amazing. And he's doing this injured and with 8-9 guys in the box. He has no other weapons around him.

Bomar's not a weapon. He's a pea-shooter compared to Peterson's bazooka.

 

Peterson's career speaks for itself. This season is not a good indicator b/c of the injury and the fact that he's barely played. He's played a total of like 5 games(the texas game doesn't count b/c he was injured and only played like 1 down).

 

Therefore he is still one of the best in the country based off of the body of work. If Bomar develops and keeps 8-9 guys out of the box then you'll see him with 2000 yards next season.

 

Oh and of course Bush is going to have a Heisman performance against UCLA. UCLA doesn't have much defense. They might key on Bush but then Leinart will have a Heisman day. They don't have the defense to keep up with all of USC.

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If Lane from Texas A&M can run all over that defense, what is Lendale White going to do? Or Reggie Bush for that matter.

[Damaramu 0]

If Lane from Texas A&M can run all over that defense, what is Lendale White going to do?  Or Reggie Bush for that matter.

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Once again I knew the USC fans would ignore the fact that Texas wasn't ready and that it was a rivalry game and just go right to promoting USC.

They weren't ready for this game obviously. They've been blowing better teams than A&M out all year. They were overconfident.

Your mighty Trojans have had the same problem.

If Fresno State can move up and down on USC then I wonder what Vince Young and the #1 scoring offense can do?

See it doesn't work like that. Texas will be ready for Bush and White. They weren't ready for this game. They thought they had it in the bag.

[mike546 0]

Are you saying you'd rather have the Texas offense than the USC offense?

[Damaramu 0]

Are you saying you'd rather have the Texas offense than the USC offense?

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I said nothing like it.

 

I'm saying that if he's going to play the "well if A&M can do this then USC can...." do this game then it goes both ways. Texas has the #2 total offense and the #1 socring offense against a statistically average USC defense that has had points put up on it by offenses that aren't as good as the Texas offense.

[Slayer 0]

USC fans

How many of these people here are USC fans... really?

 

You know, if you think the Big XII doesn't get respect now (a dubious claim in itself) then how do you think the media will shit all over the conference if their third-straight representation in the national title game gets smoked.

 

Fuck Texas, I hope they Mack Brown never sees a national championship.

[UZI Suicide 0]

If Lane from Texas A&M can run all over that defense, what is Lendale White going to do?  Or Reggie Bush for that matter.

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Once again I knew the USC fans would ignore the fact that Texas wasn't ready and that it was a rivalry game and just go right to promoting USC.

They weren't ready for this game obviously. They've been blowing better teams than A&M out all year. They were overconfident.

Your mighty Trojans have had the same problem.

If Fresno State can move up and down on USC then I wonder what Vince Young and the #1 scoring offense can do?

See it doesn't work like that. Texas will be ready for Bush and White. They weren't ready for this game. They thought they had it in the bag.

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Wow you really do sound like a Texas fan, making excuses for them left and right.

 

That's the toughest game they've played in that piece of shit conference all year, so I highly doubt they weren't "Ready" for it, that's their biggest rivarly aside from OU, of course they were ready for it.

 

USC has problems with teams like Fresno State and Cal who run Pro Style Short passing offenses, sort of like variations of the West Coast Offense. Texas is nothing like that, as we saw today they limited their passing plays because Vince Young can't throw for shit. Texas is an option team, and A&M contained their option game, specifically Young, from getting to the outside. USC has more than enough team speed to do that.

 

Texas A&M, like most of the teams in the Big 12, can barely complete a forward pass. They basically told Texas they were going to run it down their throat and then went ahead and ran it down their throat.

[mike546 0]

How do you know they weren't "ready?" Maybe their just not good against the run?

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

You know... who on this board IS a Texas fan? I've wondered this... because the only dude I see defending Texas is an Oklahoma fan...

[Damaramu 0]

That's bullshit. First of all that's Big XII haterism.

Second of all Texas wasn't ready b/c A&M was 5-5 and Texas had blown everyone except Ohio State out this year.

They were overconfident and thought they had it in the bag.

Therefore they went in there not ready and had to fight for it. Just like USC has had to do this year.

Once again if USC had trouble with those offenses then they'll have trouble with the #1 scoring offense. Not to mention they haven't played a defense that ranks as well as Texas.

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Once again I knew the USC fans would ignore the fact that Texas wasn't ready and that it was a rivalry game and just go right to promoting USC.

It has nothing to do with the rivalry game factor, it's that they gave up over 250 yards on the ground. That's not supposed to happen, rivalry game or not.

They weren't ready for this game obviously. They've been blowing better teams than A&M out all year. They were overconfident.

Only teams better than A&M that they've played are Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Ohio State. That's 3 blowouts out of 4. Do those 3 weeks constitute as all year?

Your mighty Trojans have had the same problem.

If Fresno State can move up and down on USC then I wonder what Vince Young and the #1 scoring offense can do?

Fresno State has a quick strike passing offense. I don't see that out of Texas, I see a team that can powerfully run the ball. Big difference.

See it doesn't work like that. Texas will be ready for Bush and White. They weren't ready for this game. They thought they had it in the bag.

So if Iowa State or Colorado run the ball all over Texas next week and they escape with the win, the excuse will still be that they weren't ready? When Fresno played USC, USC was ready to play, it's just that their offense is powered by a QB that doesn't throw interceptions, thus mistakes weren't made.

[UZI Suicide 0]

Right because you were in the locker room, you talked to the coaches and players, so you know exactly how they were feeling going into the game.

 

You're a dumbass.

[Damaramu 0]

How do you know they weren't "ready?" Maybe their just not good against the run?

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Because Big XII teams run and Texas has shut them all down.

 

Yeah the OU fan is defending Texas because the board has serious Big XII haterism problems.

Hell listening to all of you the Big XII was never good. And I just showed early in 2002 where they finished with 3 teams in the Top 10. But according to you guys the conferene should be stricken from Division 1 b/c it's never done shit.

[Guest Leelee]

Oy.

[Damaramu 0]

Right because you were in the locker room, you talked to the coaches and players, so you know exactly how they were feeling going into the game.

 

You're a dumbass.

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Well you're a pretty big dumbass yourself with your blind hating.