Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 You can't really defend the South either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is the legit #2 team in the country. OU is decent and so is Tech. It's about on par with most conferences. One good team and then a bunch of average teams. The fact they have the #2 team in the country helps the conference a lot. One bad year doesn't erase the fact that the Big XII has been good in the past. I need replays of Peterson's runs. Hopefully OU can play like this in their bowl game. If they play Oregon.....they'll probably lose. If they head to the Alamo Bowl and play Iowa or Michigan then they can win the bowl game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is in a class by themselves. OU and Texas Tech are decent, which equates to a mediocre Big 12 South. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 27, 2005 I didn't get PMs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Just because a mod sent out PM's to everyone doesn't give you free reign. Fuck. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Free reign to what? To support AD and talk about how well he played and how good he is? Whatever. Just b/c you don't like what I'm saying. Looks like the team that almost killed USC is losing 17-3 to Nevada in the beginning of the second quarter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 You can't really defend the South either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is the legit #2 team in the country. OU is decent and so is Tech. It's about on par with most conferences. One good team and then a bunch of average teams. The fact they have the #2 team in the country helps the conference a lot. One bad year doesn't erase the fact that the Big XII has been good in the past. I need replays of Peterson's runs. Hopefully OU can play like this in their bowl game. If they play Oregon.....they'll probably lose. If they head to the Alamo Bowl and play Iowa or Michigan then they can win the bowl game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OU probably has a change against Oregon if Kellen Clemens isn't back and healthy. We are sort of in the same position as you guys with Bomar: Dixon and Leaf both have some promise but they also need to develop more consistency and gain experience. With a healthy Clemens I think we could shred the OU defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 You can't really defend the South either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is the legit #2 team in the country. OU is decent and so is Tech. It's about on par with most conferences. One good team and then a bunch of average teams. The fact they have the #2 team in the country helps the conference a lot. One bad year doesn't erase the fact that the Big XII has been good in the past. I need replays of Peterson's runs. Hopefully OU can play like this in their bowl game. If they play Oregon.....they'll probably lose. If they head to the Alamo Bowl and play Iowa or Michigan then they can win the bowl game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is in a class by themselves. OU and Texas Tech are decent, which equates to a mediocre Big 12 South. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is true but that doesn't mean the conference is horrible. It'll be good next year. Tech is usually decent and Texas will be dominant again and OU will be back to form next season. The only thing that's going to hurt OU next year is the fucking schedule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 You can't really defend the South either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is the legit #2 team in the country. OU is decent and so is Tech. It's about on par with most conferences. One good team and then a bunch of average teams. The fact they have the #2 team in the country helps the conference a lot. One bad year doesn't erase the fact that the Big XII has been good in the past. I need replays of Peterson's runs. Hopefully OU can play like this in their bowl game. If they play Oregon.....they'll probably lose. If they head to the Alamo Bowl and play Iowa or Michigan then they can win the bowl game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is in a class by themselves. OU and Texas Tech are decent, which equates to a mediocre Big 12 South. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is true but that doesn't mean the conference is horrible. It'll be good next year. Tech is usually decent and Texas will be dominant again and OU will be back to form next season. The only thing that's going to hurt OU next year is the fucking schedule. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's pretty weak considering there are 12 teams, one entire division is nothing but jobbers, and in the other division there is one great team, one good one with an inflated record due to having a schedule of jobbers, and one decent team that has underperformed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 27, 2005 I didn't get PMs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lucky. Free reign to what? To support AD and talk about how well he played and how good he is? Whatever. Just b/c you don't like what I'm saying. No, because you are obviously running your mouth. I'm not going to say more out of respect for PK, because it definitely wouldn't be out of respect for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Guys, we gave the mod our words. If Dama is bothering you so much, just ignore him and let the mods deal with him. In other news: I agree with whoever said FSU sucks now. Florida really shouldn't have been walking over them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 You can't really defend the South either. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is the legit #2 team in the country. OU is decent and so is Tech. It's about on par with most conferences. One good team and then a bunch of average teams. The fact they have the #2 team in the country helps the conference a lot. One bad year doesn't erase the fact that the Big XII has been good in the past. I need replays of Peterson's runs. Hopefully OU can play like this in their bowl game. If they play Oregon.....they'll probably lose. If they head to the Alamo Bowl and play Iowa or Michigan then they can win the bowl game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Texas is in a class by themselves. OU and Texas Tech are decent, which equates to a mediocre Big 12 South. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is true but that doesn't mean the conference is horrible. It'll be good next year. Tech is usually decent and Texas will be dominant again and OU will be back to form next season. The only thing that's going to hurt OU next year is the fucking schedule. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's pretty weak considering there are 12 teams, one entire division is nothing but jobbers, and in the other division there is one great team, one good one with an inflated record due to having a schedule of jobbers, and one decent team that has underperformed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well it's not the conference's fault that some teams are down. It's just a bad coincidence. The Big XII is filled with teams that are historically great or good. Therefore it should get the benefit of the doubt based off of the fact that it's been a good conference in the past and it's made up of the combinatin of 2 historically great conferences. Therefore one bad year does not erase a history of great teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 How am I running my mouth? By going on about how great Peterson was? You guys go ga-ga when Reggie Bush has a good performance so I can do the same when Peterson has an amazing game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Guys, we gave the mod our words. If Dama is bothering you so much, just ignore him and let the mods deal with him. In other news: I agree with whoever said FSU sucks now. Florida really shouldn't have been walking over them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It could be made even worse by them beating Virginia Tech in the ACC title game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Has Florida State already clinched a spot in the ACC title game or can BC still play in it? I don't see either beating Virginia Tech either way, but it would be sort of hilarious if the ACC sent some jobber team to a BCS game while the Big East sent a way higher ranked one-loss UWV team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 27, 2005 They have clinched the ACC title game spot by virtue of beating Boston College. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Guys, we gave the mod our words. If Dama is bothering you so much, just ignore him and let the mods deal with him. In other news: I agree with whoever said FSU sucks now. Florida really shouldn't have been walking over them. Wise man, this one is. Seriously, knock it off or you both (meaning Dama and Kingofthe909) are taking a vacation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 27, 2005 FSU clinched a spot in the title game, by beating BC. With a 5-3 conference record. Also, this is another reason why conference title games are ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 27, 2005 I quit, as previously stated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 What happens if ND loses this game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Personally I don't mind conference championship games but I think divisions are a huge waste of time, and lead to nonsense like what we are seeing in the ACC and Big 12 this season. They should simply have a 12 team pool and match up the top 2 teams at the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Then, ND isn't eligible for a BCS game. And some rich guys choose some other team makes them the most money, to play in said game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 What happens if ND loses this game? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ohio State and Oregon can pretty much punch their tickets to the BCS barring losses by Texas and/or USC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 27, 2005 I think that's what they should do. Divisions don't help when one division is full of jobbers and the other has 2 top 10 teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 I think if ND is no go, Oregon takes their place in the Fiesta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Warfare 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Why doesn't the Big Ten have a championship game? I mean, when's the last time they had a single champion? I think they've had Co-Champs for like five years in a row or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Whoever ranked the conferences earlier was dead-on. Even though the Big Ten hasn't been too great this year it is the second best when compared to the Big XII and ACC this year. About FSU, they need to throw everything they have into getting Mark Richt back there once Bobby decides to retire... If ND loses this game, it probably hurts Louisville because the Gator Bowl will definitely take ND to possibly play Miami. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 You need 12 for a title game. As their name suggests, they have 10. (to Hockey fan) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted November 27, 2005 They've gotta get one more team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Why doesn't the Big Ten have a championship game? I mean, when's the last time they had a single champion? I think they've had Co-Champs for like five years in a row or something like that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For whatever reason, the Big 10 doesn't use tiebreaks to decide the conference champion, just who plays in the Big 10's BCS game. Which is fairly stupid, especially a year like this year where Penn State beat Ohio State in their head to head game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Did they set the ACC divisions up so that we can see FSU and Miami in the title game? Probably what they had in their mind when they set up the Big XII with OU and Nebraska. But it destroys the rivalries. And if they eliminated the divisions then Texas and OU would play in the Big XII title game nearly every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Personally I don't mind conference championship games but I think divisions are a huge waste of time, and lead to nonsense like what we are seeing in the ACC and Big 12 this season. They should simply have a 12 team pool and match up the top 2 teams at the end of the season. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hate conference title games with a passion. The problem with them is that it's not about winning the conference. It's about a team in national championship contention having another chance to lose... or, it's about some fluke team who steals a spot in the BCS... it's just silliness. Plus, it's not fair unless all teams are forced to play this extra game. Which will never happen. So, just scrap the stupid idea. Use this extra week for a playoff system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2005 Did they set the ACC divisions up so that we can see FSU and Miami in the title game? Probably what they had in their mind when they set up the Big XII with OU and Nebraska. But it destroys the rivalries. And if they eliminated the divisions then Texas and OU would play in the Big XII title game nearly every year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nebraska will eventually make a comeback and rejoin the elite teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites