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Why not. He'll have 1000 HR's when he's finished. And 698 win shares. And a Keltner sabermetric index of 15.

 

A-Rod #1.

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Because there are some guys who refuse to vote anyone in the first time. And there's probably one writer that hates A-Rod and will never vote for him regardless of his numbers.

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Highest percentage ever was Tom Seaver, I believe, and he didn't get 100% of the votes either. As for A-Rod, it won't matter if he hits a thousand home runs - if A-Rod's perceived lack of playoff success continues, I could see a couple of writers holding that against him, saying that he "wasn't clutch." Do not underestimate the stupidity of some of the card-carrying members of the writer's association.

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Nolan Ryan didn't deserve 100% of the votes.

 

While Nolan Ryan was far from the greatest pitcher ever, he certainly put up Hall of Fame numbers and is clearly deserving of the Hall. I think that he should have gotten 100%, as I would seriously question anyone who thought he didn't belong.

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I've never understood the mentality that "he needs to wait a year." If you think he belongs, vote for him. If you don't, don't. But don't make a guy serve a year or two's penance for not being one of the 20 best players ever. That's not what the HOF is about.

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Guest Princess Leena
Because there are some guys who refuse to vote anyone in the first time. And there's probably one writer that hates A-Rod and will never vote for him regardless of his numbers.

 

True. Jealous because he's rich and hot.

 

Plus, a lot of those Boston degenerates probably have votes.

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I've never understood the mentality that "he needs to wait a year." If you think he belongs, vote for him. If you don't, don't. But don't make a guy serve a year or two's penance for not being one of the 20 best players ever. That's not what the HOF is about.

 

 

Why not. It should elite company to be a first ballot inductee. The very best of the best.

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but that is not part of the institution. There is no footnote on a Hall of Fame plaque that says "first ballot." There's no distinction on a list of HOFers in an encyclopedia that separates the first ballot entrants. It's just somethings a small group of writers invented to make themselves feel more important about the voting.

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It's really sad reading this thread, and then listening to Cowherd on ESPN radio tomorrow say that numbers are meaningless for the HOF, and if you think a player was great, they should be in.

It finally occured to me the problem with Cowherd's thinking. Let's say you are a hardcore baseball fanatic, and watch a game every single day of the baseball season. That's 180 games. There are 2,250 games in a baseball season. And that's in an age with satellite radio, satellite television, cable, etc. And Cowherd thinks you can make HOF judgements based on memory from 25-30 years ago, without statistics, when you couldn't possibly have seen 90% of the games? That's exactly why we have statistics.

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Here let me steal a Stephen Colbert quote and change it up a little to make it sound like a baseball writer.

 

"The fact that they looked it up in a book just shows they don't get the idea of what a Hall of Famer really is. You don't look for a Hall of Famer in a book, you look for him in your gut."

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Guest Princess Leena

It's really sad reading this thread, and then listening to Cowherd on ESPN radio tomorrow say that numbers are meaningless for the HOF, and if you think a player was great, they should be in.

It finally occured to me the problem with Cowherd's thinking. Let's say you are a hardcore baseball fanatic, and watch a game every single day of the baseball season. That's 180 games. There are 2,250 games in a baseball season. And that's in an age with satellite radio, satellite television, cable, etc. And Cowherd thinks you can make HOF judgements based on memory from 25-30 years ago, without statistics, when you couldn't possibly have seen 90% of the games? That's exactly why we have statistics.

 

I think you're heavily overestimating Cowherd.

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