2006 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot

[Guest Princess Leena]

Why not. He'll have 1000 HR's when he's finished. And 698 win shares. And a Keltner sabermetric index of 15.

 

A-Rod #1.

[sfaJack 0]

Because there are some guys who refuse to vote anyone in the first time. And there's probably one writer that hates A-Rod and will never vote for him regardless of his numbers.

[Slayer 0]

To quote something I heard several years ago: "If Nolan Ryan couldn't get a 100% vote, then no one will"

[Vern Gagne 0]

Nolan Ryan didn't deserve 100% of the votes.

[The Man in Blak 0]

Highest percentage ever was Tom Seaver, I believe, and he didn't get 100% of the votes either. As for A-Rod, it won't matter if he hits a thousand home runs - if A-Rod's perceived lack of playoff success continues, I could see a couple of writers holding that against him, saying that he "wasn't clutch." Do not underestimate the stupidity of some of the card-carrying members of the writer's association.

[C Dubya 04 0]

Nolan Ryan didn't deserve 100% of the votes.

 

While Nolan Ryan was far from the greatest pitcher ever, he certainly put up Hall of Fame numbers and is clearly deserving of the Hall. I think that he should have gotten 100%, as I would seriously question anyone who thought he didn't belong.

[CanadianChris 0]

I've never understood the mentality that "he needs to wait a year." If you think he belongs, vote for him. If you don't, don't. But don't make a guy serve a year or two's penance for not being one of the 20 best players ever. That's not what the HOF is about.

[Slayer 0]

"Well, we don't have any real Hall of Famers to put in this year, so you'll do."

[Guest Princess Leena]

Because there are some guys who refuse to vote anyone in the first time. And there's probably one writer that hates A-Rod and will never vote for him regardless of his numbers.

 

True. Jealous because he's rich and hot.

 

Plus, a lot of those Boston degenerates probably have votes.

[Vern Gagne 0]

I've never understood the mentality that "he needs to wait a year." If you think he belongs, vote for him. If you don't, don't. But don't make a guy serve a year or two's penance for not being one of the 20 best players ever. That's not what the HOF is about.

 

 

Why not. It should elite company to be a first ballot inductee. The very best of the best.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

but that is not part of the institution. There is no footnote on a Hall of Fame plaque that says "first ballot." There's no distinction on a list of HOFers in an encyclopedia that separates the first ballot entrants. It's just somethings a small group of writers invented to make themselves feel more important about the voting.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

It's really sad reading this thread, and then listening to Cowherd on ESPN radio tomorrow say that numbers are meaningless for the HOF, and if you think a player was great, they should be in.

It finally occured to me the problem with Cowherd's thinking. Let's say you are a hardcore baseball fanatic, and watch a game every single day of the baseball season. That's 180 games. There are 2,250 games in a baseball season. And that's in an age with satellite radio, satellite television, cable, etc. And Cowherd thinks you can make HOF judgements based on memory from 25-30 years ago, without statistics, when you couldn't possibly have seen 90% of the games? That's exactly why we have statistics.

[Bored 0]

Here let me steal a Stephen Colbert quote and change it up a little to make it sound like a baseball writer.

 

"The fact that they looked it up in a book just shows they don't get the idea of what a Hall of Famer really is. You don't look for a Hall of Famer in a book, you look for him in your gut."

[Guest Princess Leena]

It's really sad reading this thread, and then listening to Cowherd on ESPN radio tomorrow say that numbers are meaningless for the HOF, and if you think a player was great, they should be in.

It finally occured to me the problem with Cowherd's thinking. Let's say you are a hardcore baseball fanatic, and watch a game every single day of the baseball season. That's 180 games. There are 2,250 games in a baseball season. And that's in an age with satellite radio, satellite television, cable, etc. And Cowherd thinks you can make HOF judgements based on memory from 25-30 years ago, without statistics, when you couldn't possibly have seen 90% of the games? That's exactly why we have statistics.

 

I think you're heavily overestimating Cowherd.