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Aforementioned Baron said two years...but it took nine years for the last PC government to get the boot.

 

True. But the CPC is no longer the PC. :P

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Aforementioned Baron said two years...but it took nine years for the last PC government to get the boot.

 

True. But the CPC is no longer the PC. :P

 

Worse...Much, much worse...

 

Pettigrew lost? He was up late...

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Looks like a Harper lead minority Conservative government. I saw the minority government part coming from a mile away, but the Harper part was a bit of a surprise. I really don't like Harper and I was really hoping that Mr. Alliance would lose and that Peter McKay would be voted in as the new party leader down the line. I guess I will have to wait a bit longer.

 

A really crappy set of choices all around in this election, in my opinion. What does it say when you can't even stand the leader of your own party? I'm more about policies than all of this posturing bullshit and I don't vote for my party unless I agree 100% with the leader and 100% with what he has to say. Needless to say, I didn't agree last time and I didn't agree this time.

 

I will always be a Conservative but I will not vote for them as long as Harper or any Alliance goon is in power.

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Pettigrew lost? He was up late...

CBC had him losing to the Bloc candidate. Elections Canada has him losing as well.

 

Thank God. One of the biggest lightweights ever to make the cabinet. I was embarassed to be working for Health Canada when he became Minister of Health.

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I'm waiting for Leena to suddenly renege on all of Mike's posts about Canada being a nation of idiots.

 

Heh if we were all idiots than Mike would fit in just fine up here.

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Tony Valeri got stomped, naturally.

 

And hey, congratulations to Calgary West for re-electing Rob Anders, proving that a rusty tailpipe can hold office in Calgary as long as it's running as a Conservative.

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Tony Valeri got stomped, naturally.

 

And hey, congratulations to Calgary West for re-electing Rob Anders, proving that a rusty tailpipe can hold office in Calgary as long as it's running as a Conservative.

 

Seriously, Calgary is a decent-sized city with a lot of intelligent conservatives and they can't find anyone better than Rob Anders? He's arguably the biggest joke in parliament other than Myron Thompson.

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Hell, my former boss is a dyed-in-the-wool Tory and he wanted Anders nuked like nobody's business. I'm sure the CPC wouldn't shed a tear if he was gone, and get this: Stephen Harper LIVES in Calgary West. And Anders has been persona non grata through the whole campaign, skipping just about every event and candidate's meeting. So basically he's saying "you're a bunch of harp seals who will elect me no matter what" and Calgary West responds "yes sir, thank you sir, more Evian?"

 

I consider myself fortunate: at least my riding is represented by Jim Prentice, who seems to me to be a Red Tory possibly looking at a cabinet position.

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Hell, my former boss is a dyed-in-the-wool Tory and he wanted Anders nuked like nobody's business. I'm sure the CPC wouldn't shed a tear is was gone, and get this: Stephen Harper LIVES in Calgary West. And Anders has been persona non grata through the whole campaign, skipping just about every event and candidate's meeting. So basically he's saying "you're a bunch of harp seals who will elect me no matter what" and Calgary West responds "yes sir, thank you sir, more Evian?"

 

I consider myself fortunate: at least my riding is represented by Jim Prentice, who seems to me to be a Red Tory possibly looking at a cabinet position.

 

Jim Prentice will probably be a good MP and seems like an intelligent guy. I doubt he will be calling Nelson Mandela a terrorist any time soon. Hopefully Harper goes for people like Prentice and Solberg to form the core of his cabinet and not guys like Anders, Day, Thomson, Gallant, and so on.

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Well, Martin just announced he won't lead the party anymore. That's too bad, he got a bum rap in my opinion and I think he could have been a great PM if given a real chance at a majority government. Even if he did run a terribe campaign.

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John Manley and Frank McKenna will probably be frontrunners for the Liberal leadership.

 

Martin resigning shouldn't be a shock. Any Liberal leader who lost power after 12 years of government would be expected to resign. Frankly, he's looked like he's wanted to resign throughout most of this campaign, and really for most of his last term.

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I don't understand parliament-style politics well at all, but I read that the Greens and NDP combined for about 52% of the vote. Wouldn't they, along with the Liberals and the (leftist?) Bloc be able to basically prevent Harper and the Conservatives from doing anything?

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I don't understand parliament-style politics well at all, but I read that the Greens and NDP combined for about 52% of the vote. Wouldn't they, along with the Liberals and the (leftist?) Bloc be able to basically prevent Harper and the Conservatives from doing anything?

 

It's similar to your electoral college, in a way.

 

Each province has X number of ridings, in which each member can run. Each riding makes up one seat in Parliament. The most seats wins.

 

For example, NDP's Jack Layton won the riding of Toronto-Danforth, so he has a seat in Parliament.

CPC's Steven Harper won the Calgary-Southwest riding, so he has a seat.

 

Unless you live in the same riding as the party leader, you can't vote directly for them.

 

My ballot card read Gary Burroughs-Liberal, Rob Nicholson-CPC, Jeff Birch - NDP, none of whom are party leaders.

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I'm shocked that my riding was won by a Liberal (John Maloney). The last week before elections, the local papers had Conservative member, Mel Grunstein in the lead, but I guess that that never happened. In fact he came third in this riding.

 

Disappointed that the Marxsist-Lenin party didn't have a lead in a riding like they did in 2004.

 

And if John Manley is going to run for PM...agh...get some one good for a change, hell Mr. Martin would be a better choice.

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CBC.ca is reporting that Mr. Martin will step down as Liberal leader today.

 

National Post is reporting that the second coming of Christ has just arrived today as well.

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I don't understand parliament-style politics well at all, but I read that the Greens and NDP combined for about 52% of the vote. Wouldn't they, along with the Liberals and the (leftist?) Bloc be able to basically prevent Harper and the Conservatives from doing anything?

The Greens didn't win any seats in the House, so they're still powerless.

 

But yes, the Tories won't be able to do much of anything aside from working on government accountability and crime in this Parliament (which were the only things everyone agreed were problems in the first place). They can't do anything involving finances without support from the other parties, because if they get defeated in a vote on a finance bill, BAM, there's another election. Since no one wants that, they'll have to tread extremely carefully and govern pretty strictly from the centre. The social issues will end up being determined on a case-by-case basis, since the government can be defeated on those without falling.

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Anything of much radical thinking (war, oil, trade) will cause another election.

 

Though I'd like to see how this budget can work out and trying to cut the GST tax. (and I mean for everyone, not just big corporations.)

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It's going to be very hard for them to cut the GST, because none of the other parties support the policy.

 

On the other hand, introducing the bill now might be a good thing for the Tories. If the opposition defeats it, they bring the government down and we have another election, and the electorate would probably be in a bad enough mood at that move that they would send the Tories back to Ottawa with a majority. If they don't defeat it, well, the Tories get what they wanted all along.

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