Guest starvenger Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Well, I can't say as I'm very happy about it, but congratulations to Carolina for making it for the first time in team history. The way I see it, there were two major factors as to why Carolina won: - Irbe. Say what you want about him, but Joseph was damn good in this series. Irbe, however, was better. - Jeff O'Neill. Clutch goals when it counted. Now, here's some 'Cane questions to ponder: - Will the BBC line reappear after being dormant this series? - Can they make the Western champs play the Eastern game? - Can Irbe continue his hot streak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 The sig says it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phr33k Report post Posted May 29, 2002 You neglected to mention the number one reason: Mogilny Screwed Up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 If Kaberle hadn't have screwed up in the first place, Mogilny wouldn't have had the chance to screw up. So, who are the Leafs going to sign in the off-season this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Well, it all starts with Curtis Joseph and what he does in the offseason... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Oh god. It's 11:36 EST here in Florida, and I'm already reading who the Leaf's fans are blaming. How about the fact that Joseph, as well as he played, should've had o'Neill's breakaway? How did Mogilny screw up? Toronto got to OT, had great scoring chances in OT, didn't cover two guys in front of the net, and BOOM: It's over. Why can't Leaf's fans just admit for once (like starvenger did) that they were beaten by a better team that won the :gasp: SOUTHEAST DIVISION! I bit the bullet when my Bruins got ousted byb the Habs in the first round. I admitted that Montreal beat Boston because they were a better team, not because of the ref's, or McLaren's controversial (and I still say legal) hit. I didn't blame anybody. I went into work, sucked it up, and wore a Montreal jersey and hat, because that's the tradition. I was ashamed, but I feel bad for the Leaf's fans. Don't get me wrong, I respect certain guys on the Leafs. I respect Roberts for coming back from what he came back from, taking the team on his back and carrying them past Ottawa, I respect Cujo for playing hard, even though he knows that he's not coming back. But it's hard to respect a team that cries and complains about injuries in the playoffs. Sure, the injury bug certainly hit Toronto hard, but let's not forget that Tucker took out Peca, the Isle's captain, the leader of that team. Tucker got what he deserved, on a clean hit, by Alfredsson in the series against Ottawa. The ESPN commentators said it best tonight when they said "You know it seems that Toronto feels that they never deserve a penalty, not ever in their history, the way that they chirp after every call against them" I couldn't have said it better myself. Whiny, bitchy "men" who will watch from home. At least admit it, Leaf's fans, they had it coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 WHOOOOOOOOOO, I feel so damn good that those bunch clowns are out, GOLF LEAFS GOLF!!!!!! And I thought it was impossible but treble actually managed to make a worse sig than his previous one, the Leafs will never win a cup face it, 1967 is the last time that sorry organzation will ever taste glory. And who will they sign? More like who will they not sign-Bye Bye Cujo= Leafs miss playoffs like they almost did in 2001. Leafs suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Well its time to suck at two sports now eh Toronto. GO AVS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Syxx, you ever hear of a sore winner? >Oh god. It's 11:36 EST here in Florida, and I'm already reading who the Leaf's fans are blaming. Well, there's always someone to blame, I suppose. If I were to blame something at this point, it would be this: shit happens. I've gone through my "mourning period", so it's time to move on. >How about the fact that Joseph, as well as he played, should've had o'Neill's breakaway? Lots of ways to look at that, I suppose. Joseph played it as well as he could, but the rebound took an odd hop over him, and O'Neill skated the right way. >Why can't Leaf's fans just admit for once (like starvenger did) that they were beaten by a better team that won the :gasp: SOUTHEAST DIVISION! Well, *look* at that division. They shouldn't have beat New Jersey, they shouldn't have beat Montreal, they shouldn't have beat Toronto. But they did. >At least admit it, Leaf's fans, they had it coming. Well, in the end, there can be only one. Everyone else gets eliminated... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 >Well, *look* at that division. They shouldn't have beat New Jersey, they shouldn't have beat Montreal, they shouldn't have beat Toronto. But they did. Guess what? They beat Jersey because they're a better team than Jersey. There are no flukes in the NHL playoffs, unlike the NFL playoffs. They beat Montreal because they are a better team than Montreal. They defeated Toronto because Toronto was out of gas. You could see it at the end of game 5. 2 straight 7 game series will do that to you, esp. with the injury to Sundin. I mean, sure, Colorado went 2 straight 7 game series, but they have hella more depth than Toronto ever will. My bold prediction: Carolina over Colorado in 6 for the Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Bah. Carolina can't beat either of the western teams in the finals. Forgone conclusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 You can take this for what you will, but Carolina was very lucky to beat Toronto. 3 OT wins in one series means it could have very easily gone the other way. Don't get me wrong, they shut down the Leafs (6 goals in 6 games), and they deserved to win, but to win the Cup, they'll need to be even luckier (and I'm not saying they can't win, since they have that whole "team of destiny" thing right about now). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 29, 2002 While I'm Feeling a little icky about Carolina being in the Finals...They did beat Toronto, New Jersey and Montreal...Live with it...besides...They'll be lucky to even steal one from Avs or Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I a die-hard Wings fan and I'm pulling for them all the way, but I'm going to go on record right now: no matter who wins the West, Carolina will win the Stanley Cup in 6 games. They have it all right now: great, balanced lines, a strong defense corps, the hottest goalie in the playoffs, a great trap system, tons of momentum, and the intangible factor that other underdogs have had. This will be 1995 all over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I happy for Carolina to be in the finals. My favorite hockey teams growing up were the Montreal Canadiens, Quebec Nordiques, and Hartford Whalers. We all know what is going on with Montreal, but when the Nords moved and became the Avalanche, that was easily my favorite team in the league. They had my two favorite players, Roy and Sakic, and a ton of other great talent. Hartford of course moved to Carolina and became the Hurricanes so it would be pretty sweet to have my two favorite teams in the finals this year. I'll be cheering for Colorado all the way, but I wouldn't be mad if Carolina won too. Plus Rob Brind'Amour is a hometown boy so I'm glad to see him in the finals too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 The only way Carolina can win the cup is the trap. If the west defeats the trap than its over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Well, if Carolina does win the Cup, one of their assitant coaches (Randy Ladoucer) is from Brockville, so he might stop on by with the Cup. And I will spit on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 spit on a leaf player. they are the ones you should be disappointed in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hockeytown9321 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I a die-hard Wings fan and I'm pulling for them all the way, but I'm going to go on record right now: no matter who wins the West, Carolina will win the Stanley Cup in 6 games. They have it all right now: great, balanced lines, a strong defense corps, the hottest goalie in the playoffs, a great trap system, tons of momentum, and the intangible factor that other underdogs have had. This will be 1995 all over again. If Colorado defeats the Wings then I hope your right, but I think the Canes are closer to what the Caps were in 1998. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 spit on a leaf player. they are the ones you should be disappointed in. I'm not disappointed in any Leafs' player (besides Reichel, the stupid bastard). I am just bitter towards Carolina right now, that's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 you must admit that were the better team though. irbe has been standing on his head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Joesph, for the most part, played every bit as good as Irbe did. They were the better team by a slight margin, but they were also very lucky. 3 OT wins means the series could have very easily have gone Toronto's way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gthureson Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Yes, but it didn't. Is it luck not to make mistakes in overtime? Were they lucky to playing strong along to boards to scoop up Mogliny's soft clearing attempt? The Canes came up big when it counted. The Leafs didn't. if this was a one game knockout, I can buy 'The Canes got very lucky.' But its a best of seven. They beat Toronto four times out of six. Thats not luck. That's playing better than Toronto did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I'm sorry, but winning 3 of 4 games in OT is lucky. I'd be saying the same thing if Toronto had won those games. Carolina was lucky to win game 4 (just as Toronto was lucky to win game 5), as they were outplayed. Carolina was lucky to win game 6, as they were outplayed for the first 2 periods, and go their only goal (in regulation) off of a terrible giveaway by Kaberle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted May 29, 2002 "I'm sorry, but winning 3 of 4 games in OT is lucky." Sending two of those games to overtime by scoring 6 on 5 in the last minute and a half is even luckier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 "I'm sorry, but winning 3 of 4 games in OT is lucky." Sending two of those games to overtime by scoring 6 on 5 in the last minute and a half is even luckier. It's closer to the last 30 seconds, but, yeah, you're right, that is lucky, too. I'm man enough to admit that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Carolina can be the next Montreal team. Win over half of the games in OT. It doesn't matter how you win, as long as you win it counts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I know it doesn't matter how you win, but still, they're lucky. So were the '93 Habs. My uncle is a huge Canadiens fan, and he hates the Leafs, but even he admitted that if the Leafs had gotten by the Kings that year, then Toronto probably could have beaten Montreal in the finals, since Montreal was a "fluke that year" (his exact words). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Well Toronto was lucky to beat the Islanders and Senators, especially the Sens with the amount of injuries the Leafs had. And Carolina doesnt play a type of game where they win by 3 plus goals, they play a defensive style that is designed to focus on defence therefore their games are always tight, so Carolina beating T.O. by one goal is not "luck" but rather their style being used to maximum efficiency. If Colorado beats us tonight or in game 7 (*if necessary) than I could have more of a case of them being lucky because they are an explosive team for goes for the throat, not defensive based, yet I will give them full credit even if they beat us again in ot tonight, because the team that wins in most cases (excluding very lucky bounces, and biased officiating) is the better team at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Karnage Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Carolina overcame New Jersey (which everyone though wasn't going to happen), Montreal and Toronto. If Detroit makes it to the finals, they are going to lose to Carolina. If Colorado does, then Colorado is gonna beat them. Oh, and Toronto was struggling in the first few rounds. They were lucky to make it this far. Do you guys think this is going to be the end of Cujo in T.O.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
