Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Well there's already a discussion started about HHH's involvement in Smackdown this week, but here's the complete spoilers for the show courtesy of Rajahwwf. These are not very detailed so post details if you can find them, but no other sites I have checked have any spoilers up right now, so you take what you can get: <<< Calgary Alberta SmackDown Taping May 29, 2002 From Pengrowth Saddledome Reported by: BootyDaddy, rajahwwf.com reader Just got back from SmackDown and it was awesome. I had awesome front row seats right behing the bench for hockey. I thought the show in Red Deer was good on sunday but this blew it away! Hulkamania ran wild and it was the high light of the night. 1. Rikishi/Rico vs Billy/Chuck During this match, EVERYBODY in the arena chanted "######" towards Billy/Chuck/Rico. It was funny. Winners: Rikishi and Rico when rico pinned Chuck Maven was being interviewed when Torrie Wilson came in and gae him a kiss right on the lips. Tajiri was peeking through some glass on a door and saw what happened. Footage was shown of Hogan entering the arena. 2. Christian vs. Maven This match ended when Maven went to the top rope and Tajiri came down and gave him a stiff shot right in the head. Christian gave him the unprettier to finish the match. Vince McMahon was in the back talking to none other than Dawn Marie (i tried top start an ECW chant but no one went along with it). Vince said that he was pissed of with Benoit being on RAW, but as long as he doesnt wrestle, Benoit can be on both shows. Then Chris Jericho came in and wanted to know why he was being put in a match with Farooq. Vince told him because HHH was already booked to fight Test and Jericho could prove that he was tougher by beating a tougher opponent in Farooq. 3. Chris Jericho vs Farooq Jericho got a huge pop when he came out and Farooq got mostly boos. Jericho exposed the turbuckle and ended up slamming Farooq's head into it and getting the roll up victory. 4. Undertaker vs. Randy Orton Pretty good match. At the end HHH came out and stated to attack the undertaker they fought all over then the Undertaker was walking up the ramp HHH challenged him to a match at King Of The Ring Hogan was being interviewed and the whole saddledome went nuts, i mean the loudest i have ever heard it.He said that he wants McMahon one on one. Vince comes in and gets right in Hogan's face, when out of no where Kurt Angle hits Hogan with a bar. 5. Tajiri and Chavo vs. Kidman andHurricane Just about at the end of the match, the Hurricane's music hit and a message appeared on the TitanTron. It said that the mystery stalker of the Hurricane will reveal itself next week (which I think will be Rey Mysterio JR. Tajiri striked a stiff kick to Hurricane's head for the victory. Winner: Tajiri and Chavo 6. Test vs HHH Lance Storm came down during the match and got alot of cheers just because he is from Calgary and caused HHH to catch a boot to the face from Test. After the match, Undertaker came down and beat up HHH with a chair and a chokeslam. HHH was Beating pretty bad from all three men. Winner: Test 7. STEEL CAGE MATCH: Edge vs Kurt Angle Just about at the end of the match the ref got knocked down. Angle got out of the cage first, but no ref. Hogan came down and the whole arena went even more crazy, and threw Angle into the cage and back into the ring, where a bloody Edge got the three count with a spear from the top rope! After the match, Hogan got in the ring and started to beat Angle more and went to remove his wig but angle got out. After that was HULKAMANIA! Hogan and Egde posed for the crowd. Hogan got the fans going so much it was the loudest i ever heard before. They stayed in the ring for awhile and celibrated and posed then left. Winner: Egde Overall, Awesome show, way better then I thought it would be. Defentaly would recommed a live SmackDown!! Out of 5 I give it a 4 1/2 it would be a 5 out of 5 but because Torrie Wilson was shown in the back and did not come out and Stacie Kebler was not there, and Vince did not make an aperence, but ohh well. <<< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I wonder where they are going with Jericho... look to be turning him face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Nope the show was in Canada so he got cheered he cheated to beat Faarooq. That's pretty sad. HHH has really killed him. So Benoit can be on Raw as long as he doesn't wrestle makes no sense just make a trade I wanna see Austin Vs Benoit again and again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Thats just a storyline plot as Benoit isn't fit to wrestle yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Yay! Jericho had to cheat to beat Faarooq and Angle lost to Edge AGAIN! FUCK YOU, HHH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Steve J. Rogers Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Jericho had to cheat to beat Faarooq and Angle lost to Edge AGAIN! FUCK YOU, HHH! ANGLE AND JERICHO ARE FUCKING HEELS! Think about it. You have a 100% right to fucking complain if they were both babyfaces but last time I checked HEELS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO WIN CLEANLY. Not to mention, HOW MANY TIMES CAN A HEEL WIN THE CAGE MATCH BLOWOFF. Unless of course the wrestler (i.e. Mick Foley) is due to retire, or they are building the heel as a credible threat to the number one babyface. I just want to see how you'd react if Angle and Jericho pull the same crap that HHH does. Seems to me every fucking smark let Austin off the hook EVERY SINGLE FUCKING time Austin pulls his power play (Jarrett, Billy Gunn, HHH, Rocky, Hall) mostly because he was pulling it aganist inferior (in smark's eyes mind you) opponents. So Jericho and Angle are in the position of mid-card heel, so fucking what. Gaurantee they are shaping up for a face turn for Jericho, maybe a nice Benoit-Jericho angle when Benoit returns full time. Right now the main event heel focus is on Raw with Taker, Flair and the nWo. Which is why I think they should start pulling two PPVs a month for the different shows and reinstate the two different titles. I mean its hard to create credible main eventers when the only titles on Smackdown are the tag titles and crusierweight title And just so I can understand this better, if Angle squashes Edge that somehow is better for the WWE than if HHH squashes Jericho? As well as if Jericho gets a clean win over a face is better for the WWE than if HHH gets a clean win over a heel? HOW? Does it ever fucking occur to you that MAYBE Jericho and Angle might BE SATISFIED with their current status? Ever think that MAYBE, just MAYBE they WOULD start to complain? Start to speak up? Hell it apparantly worked for HHH, Austin, Taker, ect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 My only complaint about the cage match is that Hogan helped Edge cheat and the fans buy into it. Faces aren't supposed to cheat. I have no problem with Jericho cheating to beat guys like HHH(which never happens anyway), Rock, or Austin to win. I DO have a problem with Jericho not beating guys like Mark Henry and Faarooq cleanly. That's like Undertaker not being able to beat Bradshaw cleanly. My thoughts-LET THE TAJIRI/MAVEN FEUD ENSUE~! I called this from a mile away(as I think all did). Hurray! Now Tajiri gets to drag Mave's ass around the ring and then Maven pulls the win out because he needs to be elevated. Oh, happy days are here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Ummm, what was Dawn Marie doing there? Don't get me wrong. I'm gonna be happy as Hell to see her, but what was she doing there with Vince? There really wasn't much detail there? I'm guessing Vince was feeling her up or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted May 29, 2002 ANGLE AND JERICHO ARE FUCKING HEELS! Think about it. You have a 100% right to fucking complain if they were both babyfaces but last time I checked HEELS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO WIN CLEANLY. Nothing said they can't win cleanly every now and then. Hell that's all HHH did when he was a heel. And think about it. If they have to cheat to beat EVERYONE then they will look like NOTHING compared to the faces. As a matter of fact Jericho already looks like nothing. Hell there's nothing wrong with a little cheating but when he was champ and cheated in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE and still barely won yeah that does nothing for him. They are made to look like complete pussies as compared to anyone else on the roster. Why do all Main Event heels have to be whiny, cheating, cowards? HUH? WHY? Why can't they have anybody else like HHH was? He was a monster heel. And they haven't had one since him. I'm not saying they can't cheat, but when they always lose the big match and cheat in EVERY match then they look like nothing and lose all credibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Triple H has buried: RVD Jericho Angle {Who else?} Soon to be buried: Benoit Booker {Can't let him get to big} Edge {Same as above} Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Why do all Main Event heels have to be whiny, cheating, cowards? HUH? WHY? Why can't they have anybody else like HHH was? He was a monster heel. And they haven't had one since him. I'm not saying they can't cheat, but when they always lose the big match and cheat in EVERY match then they look like nothing and lose all credibility. I might be mistaken but WWE Champion Undertaker is a monster champion... Eddie hasn't been cowardly according to what I've heard... Flair's not running scared... Doesn't look like Benoit's shaking in his boots either. I also just thought I might make mention of one thing to the hoards or Triple H haters that I want to shoot in the face recently. TRIPLE H LOST TO TEST. LOST TO TEST. TEST!!! Jericho WON! Angle WON and GOT CHEATED! TRIPLE H LOST! And its not the first time Triple H has jobbed to someone he shouldn't be lying down for recently (D-Von anyone?) If you all would stop funneling each and every thing you see through Triple H-is-the-devil visors you could be taken more seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted May 29, 2002 TRIPLE H LOST TO TEST. LOST TO TEST. TEST!!! Jericho WON! And?... Test is always getting a push, anyways. Maybe Hunter was giving him a "rub" or something. HHH Vs. UT at KotR... Posted by me on 5-28-02 before spoilers were out: "NOOO!! I mean... what would that say about HHH's "backstage pull" if he gets ANOTHER shot? HHH: Well, I'm wrestling quite better... Taker has the title, and I want to be the first ever TWO time Undisputed Champion. Steph: Great idea, Hunter! I'll book it for King of the Ring! Heyman: But, what about RVD's push? HHH/Steph: Who?" Not saying that HHH is going to win the title at KotR for certain, but still... he's on the guy that has had two chances to go at the title at a PPV. (WMX8 and now KotR) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Soon to be buried: Benoit Booker {Can't let him get to big} Edge {Same as above} Add to the list: The McMahon family God Some species on other planets One day he may go crazy and dig up dead people to bury them Maybe himself??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I think Flyboy nailed it on the head. It's not so much that HHH is getting the title shot BUT that RVD isn't. HHH is old hat along with the other broken-down has beens. Let's see, last week Taker retains through a screwjob ending on RAW. This screamed for a rematch at King of the Ring. Hell, have Taker and his bum nerve drop the belt and have RVD defend against HHH if need be. Now, we are stuck with a DUD of a match when RVD could have pulled something quite watchable from the Dead Man. Now RVD is the IC champ and not even mentioned as a world title contender. He tears the house down with Eddy but gets de-pushed. This is asinine. What about the Edge-HHH feud they could have created? Does the fucker have to be involved in every angle? Personally, I think this is his way to get inserted in the Eddy-Benoit-Austin feud to leech off the heat and workrate factor. of those other guys making him look good in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 29, 2002 We'll see RVD in the KOTR tournament, which probably bodes well for him. After that we'll see a Jericho-like push where they take the title off Taker so that they can set up a show that's totally shaken up. It seems like the sure-fire, good looking, shaken up card has been put on hold probably because they want to give RVD a clean win over Taker but not for the title, and want to test waters with Edge and HHH in the main event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted May 29, 2002 And?... Test is always getting a push, anyways. Maybe Hunter was giving him a "rub" or something. Because Test and D-Von are the heel versions of Faarooq and Mark Henry as far as their place on the totem pole is concerned. Because people can't stand that Jericho beat Farooq and Henry by cheating and blame Triple H for the "burial". Meanwhile Triple H is losing to the same caliber of opponents, but no one says he is being buried are they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Maybe, but what good does it do for RVD to enter the KOR if he loses the damn thing. RVD doesn't need a KOR win to solidify his status in the eyes of the fans. It would help someone like Booker a little more. Actually, mark my words. The KOR final will be Booker-Test in the Battle of TNT!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Because Test and D-Von are the heel versions of Faarooq and Mark Henry as far as their place on the totem pole is concerned. Because people can't stand that Jericho beat Farooq and Henry by cheating and blame Triple H for the "burial". Meanwhile Triple H is losing to the same caliber of opponents, but no one says he is being buried are they? oy. so let's see: Test- former tag champ and IC champ who constantly gets pushed and has had title shots and has pinned big names. equals Farooq- used to be Bradshaw's partner, says "Damn". or Mark Henry- Big. Lifts heavy things. Hated by all fans. People are saying Jericho is buried because at KOTR he will be fighting two jobbers in a handicap match. No one says HHH is buried because at KOTR he will be winning the world title for the 6th time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 TRIPLE H LOST TO TEST. LOST TO TEST. TEST!!! Jericho WON! TRIPLE H LOST! And HHH is fighting for the world title in the main event of a PPV. What's Jericho doing again...? I suppose HHH needs the rub more to recover from being squashed by monsters like Test, Storm, and D-von. Jericho holds clean wins over big names like Farooq and Mark Henry, he doesn't even need the title to be credible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bcu1979 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 I also just thought I might make mention of one thing to the hoards or Triple H haters that I want to shoot in the face recently. TRIPLE H LOST TO TEST. LOST TO TEST. TEST!!! Jericho WON! Angle WON and GOT CHEATED! TRIPLE H LOST! And its not the first time Triple H has jobbed to someone he shouldn't be lying down for recently (D-Von anyone?) If you all would stop funneling each and every thing you see through Triple H-is-the-devil visors you could be taken more seriously. BIG DEAL. Triple H jobbed to Test. He jobbed to Godfather too. And the Brooklyn Brawler. Did it ever do anything for them? Did I miss something or was Rev. D-Von wrestling on Velocity this week? Triple H sure gave him the rub. After Storm cheated the whole match (of course Triple H took care of him in the end) Undertaker runs out and distracts Triple H so Test can pin him. It took 3 men to beat Triple H. And, how do you think this will be presented? As Test beating Triple H and moving up to his level. Or will all the heat be placed on the Undertaker getting involved like it was 4 weeks ago when Jericho pinned Triple H? D-Von is NO threat to Triple H. Test,at this point in time, is no threat to Triple H. He still has no charisma and can't cut a promo to save his life. Chris Jericho is a legitimate threat to the current top tier guys. Kurt Angle is a legitimate threat. Benoit. RVD. Those are the guys that need to be portrayed as being on the same level as Triple H and Austin. There is a world of difference between doing the job and putting someone over. And Triple H and the rest of the current WWE main eventers are the masters at knowing the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Who says those who get negative(I'm not going to call them heels)heat from the crowd can't win clean? Hell, Jericho almost ALWAYS won clean in WCW. Thing is, fans like clean finishes, having someone cheat makes them feel robbed of a good match. Cheating should be done in moderation, not every single week. Having people who the crowd is negative towards win makes them dislike the guy more, BECAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE A THREAT. Think about it. It's like the football jock of your school who is a bully and cocky, but he plays GREAT football. This would make him more dislike. See my point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 29, 2002 BTW, I don't think all those with negative heat should become rule breakers. That's what I liked about Kurt Angle, he rarely broke the rules when he first came in. Also, I think it's stupid for everyone with negative heat to be "friends," i.e. McMahon and Flair. Talk about lousy booking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 McMahon said that as long as Benoit doesn't wrestle any matches, it's ok for him to show up on Raw? WTF? Does anybody remember why the no cross-over rule was put into place? Because UT and Triple H had been jumping shows to do run-ins. They never wrestled any matches on the 'wrong show.' Basically, they just completely obliterated that rule a month after it was instituted. I like seeing Benoit, don't get me wrong, but that justification for him being on Raw is just flat-out ASININE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted May 29, 2002 ANGLE AND JERICHO ARE FUCKING HEELS! Think about it. You have a 100% right to fucking complain if they were both babyfaces but last time I checked HEELS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO WIN CLEANLY. Bullshit. As Damaramu pointed out, heel HHH frequently wins CLEANLY. Most times he wins cleanly. Do you think that's a coincidence? I usually argue that heels shouldn't ALWAYS have to cheat to win, but I can understand if they have Jericho or Angle cheat to beat a top face, like Austin or Rock, or hell even Hogan. But having to cheat to beat scrubs like Mark Henry & Farooq? It does NOTHING. There is no good to be done. Nothing positive, everything negative. It doesn't help put over Henry or Farooq (no one buys them as anything other than jobbers), and it only helps to lessen guys like Jericho / Angle in the eyes of the fans. TRIPLE H LOST TO TEST. LOST TO TEST. TEST!!! As he should. He SHOULD be spending some of his time on his back, counting the lights. It won't hurt him any. But do you know what the really sad thing is? HHH will lay down for D-Von & Test, but a few months ago, if he had lain down just ONCE, convincingly, cleanly, to Jericho, than perhaps the Wrestlemania feud wouldn't have been quite the abortion that it was. It's things like that that make me think, yeah, maybe HHH does have something against Jericho. It's not so much that HHH is getting the title shot BUT that RVD isn't. Ring the bell! Excellent point. It wouldn't kill them to give RVD a title shot at King of the Ring. Do I think he'd win? Not at all, but I'm 100% positive that the fans - you know, the guys buying the PPVs & tickets, the guys who sure seem to be crazy about that RVD guy - would rather see RVD get a title shot than ANOTHER HHH vs. Undertaker match. Even if they knew he was going to lose. I say, bite the bullet, and do it. For the fans. Cheating should be done in moderation, not every single week. Having people who the crowd is negative towards win makes them dislike the guy more, BECAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE A THREAT. Absolutely excellent point, and I couldn't make a better argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bcu1979 Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Does it ever fucking occur to you that MAYBE Jericho and Angle might BE SATISFIED with their current status? Ever think that MAYBE, just MAYBE they WOULD start to complain? Start to speak up? Hell it apparantly worked for HHH, Austin, Taker, ect. Jericho suggested before Mania that it be revealed he was the one Stephanie was having an affair with. They would then use the Jericho/Stephanie affair and Triple H's thirst for revenge as the main angle to build up the WrestleMania main event. As I recall, the angle used was Stephanie ordering Jericho around to go fetch her lotion and walk Triple H's dog. Stephanie hogged up the mic time and air time and was portrayed as Triple H's main enemy. Triple H just smirked at Jericho during interviews and treated him like a complete bitch the whole time. (Notice a pattern?) Triple H did more to put over Stephanie in that one cage match with Angle than he ever did for Jericho during their entire feud. Jericho is now wrestling lower card wrestlers and the only mic time he gets is to put over how much Triple H kicked his ass yet again. Angle complained in a couple interviews a while back about all the changes his character had gone through and how he wanted to be a more serious character. He is now walking around with a ridiculous looking wig on and being portrayed as a loser and a whiner. Somehow speaking out doesn't seem to work as well for the Angle's and Jericho's of the WWE as it does for the Triple H's and the FOT's (Friends of Trips) of the WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted May 29, 2002 and Vince did not make an aperence, but ohh well. yea, gotta hate when that happens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 30, 2002 despite the complaints Smackdown still looks like a quality show at least it seems like they are making an effort to make their shows better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Prime Time Andrew Doyle Report post Posted May 30, 2002 Let's see, last week Taker retains through a screwjob ending on RAW. This screamed for a rematch at King of the Ring. Hell, have Taker and his bum nerve drop the belt and have RVD defend against HHH if need be. Now, we are stuck with a DUD of a match when RVD could have pulled something quite watchable from the Dead Man Umm, I hate to burst your bubble, But with everybody complaining about continuity and all with the roster split, why should Raw get the Undisputed title shot two PPV's in a row. Not trying to be a smartass, but you shouldn't complain about lack of continuity and than scream for a rematch at KoTR when it is SD! Undisputed title shot. Had RVD won as you suggested, that would be fine, the shot would still be SD!'s, but seeing he didnt, it makes sense under the rules, which HAVE been broken pretty soon after the split, no deniying that, to still have HHH or some SD! guy to face the 'Taker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted May 30, 2002 I saw smackdown this morning, and I have to say that the Main Event was for me, better than the Ladder Match on RAW. Again they did the commercial break in the middle of the match, and this time they had the sense to show what happened durring the break. Awesome match for Smackdown, even with Hogan sticking his nose in it. The Taker Orton match was surprisingly NOT a squash, and the cruiser tag match was pretty good too. Everything else was pretty much blah. Try and figure out who the hurri-stalker is from this pic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted May 30, 2002 Why is this so hard for people to understand? People complain that Jericho is beating undercarders dirty and point to it as evidence of Triple H burying him. Meanwhile, Triple H is jobbing to Test and D-Von. Now, imagine if you will Jericho actually lying down for Henry and Farrooq and the number of "Fuck You, Triple H." posts I would have to sift through a day. That's what I was saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites