Guest Black Tiger Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Who is left for the WWE to put the Undisputed title onto? Undertaker isn't drawing at all as champion. Steve Austin has been champion too many times to the point of it not making a difference HHH doesn't draw, despite what HHH and Stephanie claim Chris Jericho's first reign was sabatoged and he won't get another soon Kurt Angle is leaving for the Oylmpics supposedly Who does this leave, RVD, Booker T, Kevn Nash,
Guest caboose Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 A Triple H win would negate the last two months of PPV ME. I wouldn't stick it on Booker T yet, he needs to sustain that Face Heat for a while first. Definately not Kevin Nash. Edge really would be a better one for the Rumble/WM route. I think they should hotshot the belt onto RVD, ala Bret in 92. Give him a lengthy reign where he beats all comers. RVD has momentum, and he would carry that on with the belt.
Guest papacita Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 I say put the belt on Steph. Push her all the way to the top, going over HHH, Jericho, Austin, RVD, Taker, Hogan, Godfather...and maybe Dink the Clown CLEANLY before jobbing the title to a returning Joanie Laurer at Wrestlemania X-9. Joanie would then go on a 10 year run with the belt, and I'd never hafta bitch about the WWE for the rest of my life... Seriously, I say keep the belt on Taker for a while, but RVD's definitely in line in a few months.
Guest Zack Malibu Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Honestly, I'd say pull the trigger on an RVD or Edge run. It's time for a change, and by "finalizing" their pushes, that could be a good place to start. OR... Let Guerrero run with it, while continuing the feud with Austin. This way, he's legally obliged to appear on either show, and he can just appear on Smackdown (with Flair's blessing) to avoid Austin, while Austin deals with Flair and (hopefully) Benoit on RAW. That could get Eddy over the top as the rudo-dick that he so greatly plays.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Taker may not be a good ratings draw, but at least they aren't free falling like the previous three title reigns. Keep it on Taker for the time being, in order to stabalize both the title and the ratings for a while. Eventually they should be building towards a Chris Benoit title win, and do whatever it takes to do it properly. RVD just won the IC Title so he isn't getting the Undisputed Title anytime soon. Eddy will get the WWE Title before RVD, if recent booking is any indication.
Guest Flyboy Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Taker isn't doing that bad... I say keep it on him for awhile. C'mon Kahran... Eddy as champ? I think that if RVD wins the KotR that will catapult him into *another* fued with UT with RVD *finally* winning the title at Summerslam or the PPV after that.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 C'mon Kahran... Eddy as champ? I think that if RVD wins the KotR that will catapult him into *another* fued with UT with RVD *finally* winning the title at Summerslam or the PPV after that. Eddy lost the IC Title because he is moving up. That places him higher than RVD on the card. RAW just confirmed that the WWF's plans for RVD lay at the IC level.
Guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Damnit! Put it back on Jericho! He was getting better ratings then Hogan, Taker and even God Himself (in his own mind) Triple H! Poor Jericho, he should start coming out to the new Tommy Lee Song. "Hold Me Down" "i don't make everyone happy... but it's ok.. i've been through this before it's nothin new.. nothin new i don't know why everytime i wanna fly somebody always tries to hold me down... hold me down... i'm losing my faith every single time i try no one is on my side don't let me drown... let me drown don't worry about whatcha done now cause it's ok it's a test to see how much you can take.. it's nothin new i don't know why everytime i wanna fly somebody always tries to hold me down... hold me down... i'm losing my faith every single time i try no one is on my side don't let me drown... let me drown i am drowning... i am sinking... yeah" I just saw the video on "Muchmusic" and thought of Jericho.
Guest Flyboy Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 C'mon Kahran... Eddy as champ? I think that if RVD wins the KotR that will catapult him into *another* fued with UT with RVD *finally* winning the title at Summerslam or the PPV after that. Eddy lost the IC Title because he is moving up. That places him higher than RVD on the card. RAW just confirmed that the WWF's plans for RVD lay at the IC level. Yes, that is true, but do you really think the WWE is going to put the WWE Championship on Eddy? I could see Austin winning the title from UT or HHH, and then Eddy could go for the title against Austin and continue their fued, but I doubt the WWE plans for Eddy is to win the Undisputed Title.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Yes, that is true, but do you really think the WWE is going to put the WWE Championship on Eddy? No, I don't. But I do think that he has a better chance of getting it than RVD does.
Guest franchise632 Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 I think that if RVD wins the KotR that will catapult him into *another* fued with UT with RVD *finally* winning the title at Summerslam or the PPV after that. Of course that is assuming the Taker is going to have the belt after the PPV, which by all indications is going to change yet again when Taker vs HHH <which isn't announced but is the plan> happens at KotR. I would be willing to put money on the fact that HHH will walk out of KotR with the belt. Not that this is a good thing or a bad thing but just what will likely happen.
Guest Flyboy Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 I think that if RVD wins the KotR that will catapult him into *another* fued with UT with RVD *finally* winning the title at Summerslam or the PPV after that. Of course that is assuming the Taker is going to have the belt after the PPV, which by all indications is going to change yet again when Taker vs HHH <which isn't announced but is the plan> happens at KotR. I would be willing to put money on the fact that HHH will walk out of KotR with the belt. Not that this is a good thing or a bad thing but just what will likely happen. True, but God I hope they don't hotshot the belt to Hunter just because his ring work has been quite better. Taker has been having a fairly good reign with it, and see no reason to put the title on Hunter. Maybe have someone else take it off him, but not Mr. Intensity himself.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Sad as it is, Taker's reign is the best since Steve Austin's first reign (of two) in 2001.
Guest Black Tiger Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 HHH put over D Von Dudley right before he went over Jericho at JD, on Smackdown! he put over Test. Looks like he's going over Undertaker to me. For once in my life I hope KOR has a lame run in finish that ends in a DQ just so JR can yell "The Game got screwed!" I think they keep changing the title at each PPV is because now with the roster split, guys don't have to work both TV shows. The champion will still have to and he probably donsn't want to for a long time. I see guys like Eddy, Edge, and RVD getting the title anywhere between Summerslam 2002 and WM XX by then there will be no more Austin, Undertaker or Hogan, HHH's drawing power is going down the toilet like X Pac's career (SCORE!)
Guest Just call me Dan Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Undertaker will retain. Mark my words. He will drop the belt before Summerslam to set up a big money title match there with either Hogan/Austin and Hogan retiring or a ME Title program for Benoit, Booker, RVD, or Eddy. Taker is a transitional champ, but he will not be a 1 month fluke like HHH and HHH.
Guest Anglesault Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 They could always try pushing Angle, but then who would the midcarders and jobbers brs treat like a joke on SD! It will probably go to HHH to set up a long boring Edge Feud with edge that will bore us all to tears and give Edge a completely unwarrented title win. But, on the flip side, a Boring Edge Feud could be the thing to frive the stake in Hunter's career
Guest bcu1979 Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 HHH put over D Von Dudley right before he went over Jericho at JD, on Smackdown! he put over Test. Looks like he's going over Undertaker to me. Triple H jobbed to Test and D-Von Dudley. He did not put either one of them over. As for the next champion, it'll be either Triple H or RVD. Triple H if Vince continues to think the answer to his problems is nostalgia acts and the same tired main eventers. RVD if Vince gets his balls back and realizes that wholesale changes need to be made to the product to turn the ship around. Regardless, they need to get the belt off Taker immediately. He's boring on one show but making him a focal point of both shows is unfathomable. They can give him 100 evil nicknames and have him beat the crap out of every jobber in the company. He's still going to be seen as another old guy who used to be cool ten years ago. His days as a main eventer are over. Even if he and Vince refuse to accept that. RAW has set new 4 year lows the last two weeks. Smackdown did a 3.2 this week!! Against what? Nothing. At least the 2.9 a few weeks ago came during May sweeps.
Guest cabbageboy Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Who do I want to see get the title next? RVD. Who will get the title? HHH at KOTR. I'm sure the WWF would push Edge over RVD not due to being more over or anything, but simply because he's Vince's boy and RVD is not. Vince would always push one of his guys over a guy well known from ECW. And no, they won't put the title on Eddie.
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Kurt Angle is leaving for the Oylmpics supposedly Apparently the WWE are trying their hardest to keep Kurt Angle from entering the Olympics... And in relation to all the other posts, Personally im really happy with the current champion , but of course that coming from me is totally one sided and biased. I honestly think Eddie is ready, he has the look, he sure as hell has the talent..he is a lot bigger now then he has ever been..and a run with the Rattlesnake ( which, surprise surprise, Austin will undoubtably win ) might be what he needs to be completly elevated from his current status. I hope that does happen and Eddie spits in the face of all the FUCKING MORONIC WRESTLING CRITICS that said he'd never *EVER* be a world champion. Either Taker or Eddie, im happy, i love Guerrero and Taker and i think they both contribute well to wrestling overall and deserve to hold the top belt in the company, even if its significance has dropped. But for now...Taker remains champ in my book! This has been the Taker Mark
Guest TheMikeSC Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Is Undertaker a good champ? Well, no, not really. But RVD?!?!?? Are you SERIOUS? People, let's not mistake glitz for skill. RVD is glitzy as heck---but there better and more deserving performers than he. Heck, I'd stick it on Booker and have that lead to the death of the nWo before I'd give it to Rob. -=Mike ...If glitz was all that matters in the world, how many NBA players would be better than Vince Carter?
Guest Risk Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 But you're very biased against RVD, how do we know you aren't being impartial, Mike?
Guest the pinjockey Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 WHOA WHOA WHOA You are talking about someone without skill shouldn't be pushed to the title yet our last three champions have been a not ready HHH, Hogan, and UT. And besides glitz gets people excited about his character and his match and last I checked the job of a wrestler is to get a character over and to have a crowd interested in his matches and to be able to perform in the ring. It appears to me RVD has plenty of glitz which makes him a pretty skilled wrestler and I don't think there is an arguement that can be made about his ability to at worst hold his own in the ring.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 First off: Eddy lost the IC Title because he is moving up. That places him higher than RVD on the card. RAW just confirmed that the WWF's plans for RVD lay at the IC level. Higher on the card? Absolutley...but lets not kid ourselves here Rasmus. Eddy lost the title because Austin isn't about to be in a feud with the IC title involved. As we all know he handpicked this feud with Eddy...so unless Austins plans somehow involve Eddy holding the world title at some point...its just not going to happen. Who will hold it next? HHH, RVD or Chris Benoit. The Benoit choice only happens if for some reason the WWE decides that they want a long Taker title reign...which would run into the time when Benoit gets up there. If they go for a short reign...HHH will win it at KOTR. If they go for a 2 month reign...RVD has it. And for godsake...When has the WWE pushed based on talent? I'm not even going to dignify these RVD isn't good enough posts anymore when I have to sit through Hogan vs. Undertaker. Jesus people...I hate HHH more than anyone could possibly hate RVD...and yet I know what the deal is. He's over again and hes improving...so as long as his injury doesnt blow up on him...hes your champion. What I find the funniest is people who seem or at least pretend to have an understanding of wrestling (and beleive me I aint one of em...because when it comes to the WWE...I dont get shit) that can complain about "flippy flop" "bad promos" and "no psychology" who can't see that if RVD beat Taker for the title it would be the first meaningful title change in...well...a long fucking time. Not because someone new one the title...but because RVD and Taker have a good history of RVD coming closer and closer to taking him down. If RVD is to ever win a world title it should be from Taker...and lets face it...Putting over RVD is about the only thing that Taker has left to give to the business.
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Fuck it, give the damn title to me next, i can drop a leg, even an elbow on my best day! Hey thats 2 more moves then Kevin Nash knows, and we all know how good he is!!! This has been the Taker Mark Future WWE Undisputed Wanker
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 I'd never thought I'd say this, but I hope Taker carries the belt for awhile. This four champions in four months crap has gotta end. Maybe, just maybe, they can build Taker up to a big enough heel so that HHH can chase him for the belt for a few months. Of course, that all depends on whether or not both men can REALLY get over in these roles. They're far from the levels of Angle vs Austin or Cactus Jack vs. HHH. I'm just praying RVD and Edge are kept in the mid card as I don't want them going over the far more deserving Jericho, Benoit, Angle and Austin.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 If they go for a 2 month reign...RVD has it. Unless they decide to extend the HHH feud. Austin also has a good chance of getting it next. There is more to being a draw, than being over. Who's to say that the reason HHH is getting more over isn't because most of the people who hate him quit watching in the past two months? Ratings would suggest it is possible. And mark my words, if the WWF has been planning on RVD getting the Undisputed Title soon, he would not have won the IC Title on RAW. Eddy Guerrero is not getting the belt either, but he is further up on the card than RVD, which you admitted. Austin picked Guerrero because he is considered to be the best wrestler on RAW. They won't just dump him back to the IC level when the feud moves on to Austin/Benoit. Austin/Benoit is the big feud that the WWF seems to be banking on. One of them, if not both, will have the WWF Title at some point this year.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Before anyone says I'm biased, I can guarantee you if it was Benoit in RVD's spot, I would be pissed, because he would still be in the same place he was 2 months ago. I find it strange that RVD fans would be happy after RAW, as it is NOT a step up for him.
Guest Flyboy Posted June 2, 2002 Report Posted June 2, 2002 I find it strange that RVD fans would be happy after RAW, as it is NOT a step up for him. Heh.. I'm *not* happy as I know it's a step down for him.. unless he hotshots the title at KotR to someone, and finally continue and end his fued with Taker (meaning winning the title), I personally know that the WWE is going to use him as they see him now... a mid-carder. A high mid-carder.. hell, the TOP mid-carder, but *just* a mid-carder.
Guest Posted June 2, 2002 Report Posted June 2, 2002 C'mon people! I am in shock right now. You mean to tell me I am the only Hulkamaniac here? Sure he's getting on in years now but he can still run with the young dogs. Let Hogan win the belt one more time and then have him retire and throw the belt up to the winner of the King of the Ring. We all have a little Hulk in all of us.
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