Carlito Getting Into The MITB match?

[Epic Reine 0]

Isn't it sad that Flair, one of the greatest WRESTLERs ever, is getting stuck in a ladder match at the age of 57.... when either a) he should be retired, or b) challanging Ricky Steamboat to a Chicago rematch, or c)....BE FUCKING RETIRED.

 

Sad that years (like 10-20 years) from now, fans will see Flair at WMXXII and just think, "wow, thats pathetic" and not think of Flair as the great wrestler that he is, just because of his few WM's (vs. Savage, vs. Taker, vs. Rock'n'Sock, and now this).

[Hawk 34 0]

If Flair does keep his place in the match. I think he'll drag the whole thing down. Don't get me wrong, he's a great worker, but MITB is a very physical, fast-paced match and somewhat of a spotfest. I just don't think Flair will be able to keep up.

 

Prove me wrong Flair!

 

I REALLY hope Carlito replaces him though!

 

Not really, see Flair would actually be good for this match. Flair is over, especially in Chicago. He will be arguably the #1 face in the match, although the dueling "RVD!" and "WHOO!" chants will be intersting/annoying. He would only be expected to take one or two bumps, and he showed a couple months ago that he is capable of taking a ladder/table bump.

 

Flair will be involved because he'll make the crowd even hotter when he does his usual routine and cheats like crazy. Flair's presence would add to the match, more then using someone like Matt Hardy, whom would just bump and get the girls excited. Flair, for the crowd and the marks would add interest because Flair is much more credible to win the match then Matt freakin' Hardy is.

[NYU 0]

As I said in another thread, I fully expect Flair to win this match. They've been hyping up the idea that he wants one more run with the title at the age of 57, and the fact that he so obviously doesn't belong in this match makes it even more likely that he'll win.

 

HHH over Cena at WrestleMania. Flair wins the Money-in-the-Bank.

 

HHH over Cena in a rematch at Backlash.

 

Flair exercises his title shot after that because....yeah. He doesn't have anything else better to do.

 

HHH over Flair in the now customary Hell-in-the-Cell match at Bad Blood. And I would say Flair might call it a career after that, but he won't.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

If Flair wins, I could see him exercising the right to a title match the very next night on RAW.

 

Itd be like a 60 year old person winning the lottery..they'd be stupid to take the 20 year payments..take it in one giant lump sum now.

[humanoid92 0]

If Flair wins, I could see him exercising the right to a title match the very next night on RAW.

 

Itd be like a 60 year old person winning the lottery..they'd be stupid to take the 20 year payments..take it in one giant lump sum now.

 

Agreed. That's all I was trying to say.

[Guest wolverine1007]

I hope that Carlito winds up finding his way into Money in the Bank, because if they do decide to use Raw and Smackdown guys in the match, I still think it should be a more Raw thing, with maybe one or two Smackdown guys in the match.

 

That said, I actually won't mind Flair in the MITB, since his TLC with Edge a few weeks ago was one of the most unlikely good matches i've ever seen, and Flair definitley held up his end, in my eyes. I will mind if Flair wins, however, since if Flair is going to get one more title shot, it better not be by beating RVD, Shelton, and 3 other guys in a ladder match.

[CanadianGuitarist 0]

Is there a forseeable way, other than the RVD scenario desricbed in the ONS thread, to have the MITB play out differently than it did last year (immediately taking the title after the champ is fallen)?

 

Other than that, I don't see how a MITB shot can be used differently than an ordinary, four TV show build-up PPV shot.

[NoCalMike 0]

If Flair wins this match I will leave the room for the rest of the PPV and bawl.

[cabbageboy 0]

The reason I can't see Flair winning this is that he seems like filler quite honestly. As in "Hell, we had Shelton win his match, might as well have Flair since they are feuding for the IC title."

 

Flair has no business winning this match. It would be mindnumbing if Flair actually beat a bunch of guys half his age in a hardcore ladder match.

 

Oh, and Van Dam will be way more over than Flair in that match, mainly because the crowd will feel he's the guy who SHOULD win it.

[NoCalMike 0]

The reason I can't see Flair winning this is that he seems like filler quite honestly. As in "Hell, we had Shelton win his match, might as well have Flair since they are feuding for the IC title."

 

Flair has no business winning this match. It would be mindnumbing if Flair actually beat a bunch of guys half his age in a hardcore ladder match.

 

Oh, and Van Dam will be way more over than Flair in that match, mainly because the crowd will feel he's the guy who SHOULD win it.

 

 

Exactly. If it wasn't a ladder match I might question whether RVD was going to win or not, but THIS MATCH in particular seems like the logical way to showcase RVD at WM in front of a live crowd.

[Epic Reine 0]

And showcase Shelton, again, at his second MITB match.... which both times he was/is the IC champ.

 

 

RETARDED.

[LivingLegendGaryColeman 0]

And showcase Shelton, again, at his second MITB match.... which both times he was/is the IC champ.

 

 

RETARDED.

 

The IC Title is not an important part of Wrestlemania anymore. There hasn't been an IC Title match at Wrestlemania since X8. That's going to be 4 years now.

 

Last year, Shelton in MITB.

WM 20 - Orton in the Evolution vs. Rock/Sock

WM 19 - It was "retired" still. It came back at Judgement Day.

 

Seems silly to me.

[humanoid92 0]

I don't think Flair should win either, but I don't understand where everyone's coming from with the idea that he shouldn't win "especially because it's a ladder match." To me, him winning a match like this is more realistic than him winning a regular match (consistently beating guys half his age in one on one encounters and lasting for 20 minutes in a cage with HHH). To win a ladder match, all you have to do is climb to the top of the ladder when everyone else is incapacitated. It's a total crapshoot. Pyschologically speaking, all he'd have to do is sit back and let the other five guys destroy each other with big spots, then take advantage when they're down. All you have to do is last long, play it smart, and not get hit with a big spot. I'd buy him doing that way more than I buy it taking HHH 20 minutes to put away a 57 year old man when it's just the two of them.

 

I agree they should really consider putting RVD over, but I don't have the confidence in them to do it. And remember- showcasing him in this match and booking him to win are two totally different things. That Triangle Ladder match was just an excuse to showcase Jeff Hardy, but the Hardyz didn't go over (in any of those matches, come to think of it). Even the WM X ladder match was sort of a showcase for Shawn, and he didn't go over in that one.

 

I just wish they weren't going through with MITB again.

[Guest Dam(o)nYankees]

And showcase Shelton, again, at his second MITB match.... which both times he was/is the IC champ.

 

 

RETARDED.

 

The IC Title is not an important part of Wrestlemania anymore. There hasn't been an IC Title match at Wrestlemania since X8.

Seems silly to me.

Hasn't been an IC title match worth a damn since 2000.

[pochorenella 0]

And showcase Shelton, again, at his second MITB match.... which both times he was/is the IC champ.

 

 

RETARDED.

 

The IC Title is not an important part of Wrestlemania anymore. There hasn't been an IC Title match at Wrestlemania since X8.

Seems silly to me.

Hasn't been an IC title match worth a damn since 2000.

 

I think a few come to mind after 2000:

 

Jericho vs Benoit, RR2001

Jericho vs Benoit vs Guerrero vs X-Pac, NWO2001

Van Dam vs Guerrero, Ladder match RAW 2002

 

Just off the top of my head...

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

I think the writers just forgot who Carlito is and that MITB2 was his idea.

 

They'll fix it next week by putting him over Kane, who will all of a sudden be feuding with Big Show over who the best 7-foot transitional champion was.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

I think the writers just forgot who Carlito is and that MITB2 was his idea.

 

They'll fix it next week by putting him over Kane, who will all of a sudden be feuding with Big Show over who the best 7-foot transitional champion was.

 

And during the feud they still won't lose the tag belts.

[Silence 0]

I think the writers just forgot who Carlito is and that MITB2 was his idea.

 

They'll fix it next week by putting him over Kane, who will all of a sudden be feuding with Big Show over who the best 7-foot transitional champion was.

 

And during the feud they still won't lose the tag belts.

 

Which is something I absolutely hate. It's ridiculous for some people to be Champions when they hardly ever defend the titles except every once in a while.

 

I'm glad Flair isn't Intercontinental Champion anymore, though.