Who doesn't deserve to be in the WWE?

[Guest saturnmark4life]

I don't have a lot against albert really, i actually thought T&A were getting somewhere when they split but yeah, pretty much everyone listed, If X-Pac doesn't get off his ass and have a good match i see no reason to keep him. He's a good worker but hasn't had a good match in at least 3 years IMO. Except with jericho.

[Guest Sakura]

Jericho vs. Eddie vs. Benoit vs. Xpac at No Way Out 2001 was pretty cool. Then again, look who he was working with.

 

His series of matches against Kidman, Jeff and Tajiri for the cruiser title were decent....

 

 

Alright so since 1999 he's had a good match with Y2J, Crippler and Eddie and some decent cruiser weight matches. Ok, yeah, fire him.

[Guest The Vanilla Midget]

Albert always looks "slightly" bad. Even when fully clothed he looks terrible. The man has more fun than Kuma.

 

 

I do not remember Albert or Droz ever getting heat.

 

 

Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, Nash, Test are big men. Then there's guys like Rhyno, Awesome, BROCK~!, Rikishi, Chris Jericho, ect. who are often billed as monsters.

 

 

That's at least 6 or 7 guys at a time. Plenty of hosses. In this day and age the only need for a "oh my gawd this man is a monster" wrestler is for those lame punishment matches that EVIL owners make Austin and other faces have when they're bored of handicap matches.

are you aware that you listed chris jericho as a monster??? because if so, what are you fucking smoking????

[Guest buffybeast]

I was just going to say that.  Also, they may bill him as a monster, but Rhyno, at 5'9 on a good day, is not a big man.  And neither is Mike Awesome who's only 6'6.  I was speaking of true big men, 6'8 and over.

[Guest Sakura]

Even still, 5 big men is plenty.

[Guest The Vanilla Midget]

there are very few ppl in the wwe who are legit 6'8 and over, and im sure that rhyno would be over 5'9 tall? surely???

oh well, he makes up for it for being as solid as a brick shithouse, and he has that INTENSE~ look, so i could easily characterise him as a monster, alongside brock and awesome, etc.

[Guest papacita]

P.S Love the signature Papcita!

**giggles and blushes** Aww shucks!

 

I already read that.

 

Really, it is so easy to say I'd fire this person or I'd fire that person.  But the vast majority of you all haven't given concrete reasons as to why you'd fire anyone.  

 

Just listing a name is silly.  Back up your opinions with facts, please.

 

Ok...Michaels Cole...his voice is high and annoying...like Urkel! His laughter is ridiculously annoying...like Urkel! If find his appearance to be comical...like Urkel. Why...if Cole wasn't white, I'd swear the two were one in the same! I say make the trade! At least URKEL was a genius.

[Guest papacita]

BTW, last I checked, Rhyno was 6'3"...but I'm usually wrong on these types of things, so feel free to laugh and ridicule me at will.

[Guest The Vanilla Midget]

also, since when is 6'6 not a big man in real life, anybody over about 6' is classed as tall, as i know that im 6'2 and there damn sure aint that many people taller than me (though of course in wrestling fantasyland i would be billed as 6'4), but seriously, by wwe standards anybody around 6'5-6'6 is a big man, and they just overstate their height to make them seem more larger than life.

[Guest buffybeast]

also, since when is 6'6 not a big man in real life, anybody over about 6' is classed as tall, as i know that im 6'2 and there damn sure aint that many people taller than me (though of course in wrestling fantasyland i would be billed as 6'4), but seriously, by wwe standards anybody around 6'5-6'6 is a big man, and they just overstate their height to make them seem more larger than life.

No Vanilla, generally in wrestling individuals over 6'8 are considered to be "big men".  I do recall Kevin Nash said he laughed at the insinuation that Awesome was a big man.  People like Nash, Albert, Taker etc are considered big men or people like Vader and Rikishi are, too.

 

Yes, I do know that the WEEEEEE group overstates heights.  That's why I would be very surprised to find out that Rhyno is actually over six feet.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

Rhyno might just scrape 6ft. But the point is he got over as a monster heel without being tall enough to be a 'hoss'.

[Guest]

Anyone from Tough Enough (the contestants/winners). I could care less if Maven worked a match with a broken leg. The whole concept of Tough Enough is an insult to all of the wrestlers who had to work their asses off and prove themselves by WRESTLING in order to get where they are, and not going on some stupid "real world" show and learning how to do hip-tosses every week.

 

I don't agree with anyone who says Crash. He's a good worker and is funny as hell.

 

Big Show shouldn't be around. Well, he has a place, but he needs to shape up.. BUT this is a two-way street, so the creative's need to GIVE HIM A DIRECTION and stick with it in order for it to work out.

 

Bossman should be a road agent or a manager or something but not an active competitor. He's a really cool guy IRL, who does a lot of charity work so I don't have any problems with him at all.

 

Then the rest: Kevin Kelly, Michael Cole, Bruce Pritchard, Tom Pritchard, Brian Gerwitz. Stephanie McMahon.. Just because your daddy owns the company DOESN'T mean you deserve a job there.

 

Oh, and not the Coach.. I actually like him. His hyperbole isn't nearly as offensive as Cole's can be.

 

Blah..

[Guest]

Albert isn't over, has little wrestling talent, is named after a dick piecing, his look sucks, fans don't care what he does, PROBABLY will never be over, and his matches are boring.  Hey, if you find him attractive Buff, more power to you, but I'm looking at this from a fan's AND a promoter's perspective.

The Rock was not over five years ago.  People thought his wrestling sucked, hated his name, the fans hated him with a passion and wanted him gone from their tvs, and thought he'd never be over.  And look where he is today.

 

Albert has tons of potential.  He wrestles a very effective big man style.  You can't compare him to RVD or the likes.  But compare him to a big man and you will see his wrestling is not bad.

 

Sure, the fans don't care about him.  But how much of that is the company's fault and how much of that is his fault?  He can't control the feuds/programs he's involved in or the fact that he has a sucky name.

 

And I challenge you Risk to say his matches with Kane last year were boring.  They were not to many people.

 

So if you look at things my way, you'd see that Albert was a special wrestler who has the seeds to make it big in wrestling with a little work and TLC from the company.

You're comparing Albert to The Rock?

 

 

*cough*

[Guest]

another stupid post by this idiot.  Anyone who is in the wwf, probably worked their ass off to be there, so they deserve it.  It is how high they are in the hierchy that you should discuss.  Shit big bossman or albert or someone who you may not like probably busts his ass more in a month than most of you in a year.  So, go fuck yourselfs you bitching idiots.  Please someone give the wwf a compliment once you cynical fucks.  Also risk is a jackass with these stupid threads.

 

--Rob

[Guest the pinjockey]

The difference between the Rock when he sucked and Albert as he sucks is that Albert is disgusting to look at.  Rock had a good look, a good body, and just had a crappy gimmick.  Albert is disgusting in those speedo tights.  When I have watched with people who don't typically watch wrestling and they see Albert they're reaction is "He looks really gay" or "He is the ugliest person I ever saw".  Also Rock basically hit the lottery with his character.  He was in the WWF at the right time where everyone changed their character at the same time so you did not really think to yourself "Hey there is the blue chipper with a different name" everyone changing at the same time forced the audience to understand the entire company was different now.  Unless there is another radical change in the industry Albert won't get that chance to change his character without it being a name change but still the same sucky Albert.

[Guest buffybeast]

"Albert is disgusting in those speedo tights."

 

No, they're not flattering on him.  But I wouldn't say he looks disgusting.

 

"He looks really gay" or "He is the ugliest person I ever saw"

 

That's when you are supposed to educate those poor fans about the potential Albert has.  You are supposed to talk about his feud with Kane and how good he looked during those matches.  And you are also suppose to say that Bastion Booger is the ugliest man in wrestling.  Albert's kind of cute.  You should say that.

 

"Unless there is another radical change in the industry Albert won't get that chance to change his character without it being a name change but still the same sucky Albert."

 

Agreed, partially.  Albert probably needs 4-6 months off of Federation tv, be repackaged, then reintroduced to the wrestling world.  It could work.

 

And he does not suck.

[Guest]

You're comparing Albert to The Rock?

 

 

*cough*

Did you even see the Rock "wrestle" during his first stint with the WWF? Can we say, "slow motion?"

 

But, I digress, Rocky has improved by miles since then. Albert will never reach that level unless he drops about 50-60 pounds... and that's just in back-hair.

[Guest What?!]

Test.

 

And I'm going to keep Maven because he's sort of actually over and I think he plays a good underdog role better than say Crash Holly or Spike Dudley. And if he were heel, for some reason I see him with Rico in some weird eyebrows and sideburns connection.

[Guest Risk]

another stupid post by this idiot.  Anyone who is in the wwf, probably worked their ass off to be there, so they deserve it.  It is how high they are in the hierchy that you should discuss.  Shit big bossman or albert or someone who you may not like probably busts his ass more in a month than most of you in a year.  So, go fuck yourselfs you bitching idiots.  Please someone give the wwf a compliment once you cynical fucks.  Also risk is a jackass with these stupid threads.

 

--Rob

I'm sorry guys, please ignore this idiot.

[Guest Anglesault]

Test.

[Guest]

Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, Nash, Test are big men. Then there's guys like Rhyno, Awesome, BROCK~!, Rikishi, Chris Jericho, ect. who are often billed as monsters.

How the hell is Jericho a monster? He's scrawny, he's a good wrestler, but he's not very intimidating.

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

Crash Holly

Steven Richards

Justin Credible

Funaki

Big Show

These I don't agree with.  I agree that I could care less if I ever saw Big Show again, but with a much smaller contract, I wouldn't mind having him around as a 911-type character.  Funaki is an extremely good talent, but his misuse as a jobber has buried him.  Maybe they could build him and his EVIL gimmick back up in the cruiser division.  Crash Holly is a comedy character, but very talented as well.  His hardcore division stuff was gold, but struggled for direction after that.  He could fare well with a tag team partner.  Steven Richards sucks in his role now as the hardcore champ who hates the hardcore style (throws away the garbage can and locks in a chinlock)... but Richards was great as Raven's lackey.  He needs to grow his hair out and put on the cut off shirt and short shorts.  Justin Credible isn't that great of a wrestler, but he's more talented than some, and definitely deserves a job.  Even if he's just a mid-low card jobber.

[Guest]

you guys are idiots.  Anyone who is there deserves to be there.  Also anyone who is there could potentially be a "superstar"  it is just how they are used.  Even if not in a wrestling capacity.  I would love for one of you 13 y/o's to walk up to these guys and tell them they do not deserve to be there.  BTW risk, you are either some scrawny 13 y/o with a shitload of pimples that has no athletic ability whatsoever or.... you are a fat 16 y/o that has no life and nothing better to do than to bash wrestlers.  

 

--Rob

[Guest Anorak]

If you don't like this thread then just avoid it and shut up, go to another folder if you want to insult somebody personally.

 

There's plenty of people in the WWE who don't deserve to be there and even more who have a 99.9% chance of never getting over. Why shouldn't we criticize wrestlers who are bad at their jobs and don't even contribute anything worthwhile for the company that's invested in them? We watch these poor performers on a weekly basis and have to endure them dragging down our enjoyment of seeing something, which at its best, we all love.

 

Nobody off Tough Enough has paid any dues or derserves the opportunity to enter the WWE and be on TV every week. Why shouldn't i resent the fact that people with 100x more talent have been released or ignored, people who had what it took and were passed over for those who may never really have what it takes.

 

Most of the obvious choices have already been discussed and i can't add much to many of them. On a bitter personal note i'd get rid of the Byte This team, except Fink of course, for being such creeps. Surely Kevin Kelly's job could be given to a slightly nicer human being than him?

[Guest Risk]

Yes, please stay off the wrestling forums, Robbie.

[Guest alfdogg]

you guys are idiots.  Anyone who is there deserves to be there.  Also anyone who is there could potentially be a "superstar"  it is just how they are used.  Even if not in a wrestling capacity.  I would love for one of you 13 y/o's to walk up to these guys and tell them they do not deserve to be there.  BTW risk, you are either some scrawny 13 y/o with a shitload of pimples that has no athletic ability whatsoever or.... you are a fat 16 y/o that has no life and nothing better to do than to bash wrestlers.  

 

--Rob

And how old are you?

[Guest]

The Bossman obviously. Out of all the people I hate, i probably hate him the least (come on, "Yer a big nasty bastard! And your mama said so!" is classic) but the guy is terrible in the ring. Just awful.

 

On the monster/hoss thing, yeah, Alberts the one i'd probably have to cut. Can't work a decent match, can't cut a promo, looks like an idiot, and frankly, for a "hoss" he doesn't come off intimidating at all. If I saw him coming at me in a dark alley looking mad, i'd have to laugh, he's just too goofy looking. Now put Rhyno, whos probably 6 inches shorter, in the same situation and i'd be a lil scared. He looks like he'd kill you. Albert looks like he'd go "Hey hey hey! Wanna go get some blueberry pie?!"

[Guest muswp1]

Here is my rather short list:

 

Nidia: complete waste of everyone's time

 

Terri: Fulgy, untalented, and sounds like she swallowed sandpaper

 

Bossman: Is he still on the roster??

 

Test: He had his chances, has never gotten over despite TWO pushes from God himself

 

Billy Gunn: Another guy who has had more chances than he deserves to do ANYTHING without the Road Dogg.  See RR 2001 and KOTR 99.

 

X-Pac: only employed because he has friends.  Hasn't had a good match in a long time.

 

Albert: needs a solid direction and a new wardrobe, otherwise he's useless.

[Guest]

alfdog I am 20, and I do not bash people in their profession.  I think unless you are there, you have no right to say they do not deserve to be there.  Shit, I bet if any of you guys bashing test, bossman, albert, whatever, were in the wwf, and acually made it, you would suck those guys dicks.  That's it.

 

--Rob

[Guest]

Anyone who is there deserves to be there.

 

I would love for one of you 13 y/o's to walk up to these guys and tell them they do not deserve to be there.

13 year olds? Oh, and gee, and all this time I thought I was 24 years old & working in graphic design... who'da thought?

 

I think it's a stretch to say that anyone who is there deserves to be there. How did Stephanie McMahon "bust her ass" to get this job? How did all of these Tough Enough rejects "bust their asses" to get their jobs?

 

Puh-leeze, someone needs to open his eyes and wake up.