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Which ones? Weed and coke, or caffeine and alcohol?

 

I'm pretty sure they're all bad for you if abused.

Yup. All of them.

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Blasphemy. If we would have never evolved our frontal lobes and the ability to walk upright we'd still be getting eated by saber toothed tigers on the African sahara. The only thing that dictates whats right and wrong in a persons life is religion and government. That is where your morals come from. Well, I am an anarchist and athiest so BLEHHHHHH ;)

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That post doesn't even make any sense.

 

I know you're tryong to be funny and all, but it just doesn't make any sense. It's like you threw up a dictionary.

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What about it doesn't make sense??

 

The only thing that dictates whats right and wrong in a persons life is religion and government. That is where your morals come from. Well, I am an anarchist and athiest so BLEHHHHHH

 

Is it THAT hard to understand?

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So you're saying that the only thing that dictates morals are government and religion over evolutionary behaviour? The majority of morals are based on behaviour which will help propegate the species. For example, the moralistic aversion to inbreeding or a moralistic aversion to violence. Likewise, an aversion to drugs (which have a negative effect on your offspring) is heavily based on wanting to produce stronger offspring. Even if this is majorly exerted by the state and church (although many of the morals exhibited by these institutions originally came from the thinking of our forefathers) then it is rooted in propegating the species. The governament and relligous bodies say don't do drugs because you'll die young and your kids'll be retarded - that's the basis of evolutionary thinking. Granted there are societies in which taking of drugs is morally acceptable, however in these cultures taking of drugs are associated with benifits not shown in western society which outweigh the negative connotations.

 

Regardless of this, aversion to drugs generally isn't a moralistic choice, certainly it's more tied in with scientific evidence and rational thought than the choice to take drugs.

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Scientific evidence? There are studies showing either way. It depends on whether or not you want to believe independent researchers, or the GOVERNMENT which put innocent soldiers through hell in those MKULTRA experiments? The government who put out those propoganda commercials showing a kid hitting a joint twice then shooting his mom because he was "high"?? Or the ones who made reefer madness?

 

Either way its a moot point and its obvious no one will convince you to think otherwise so it is pointless to continue this discussion.

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True dat. I'm smoking a bowl right now...in my new PROTOPIPE!

 

[sHILL]http://www.protopipes.com/proto_pipes.htm[/sHILL]

 

I lost my damn poker. :( I can't find it anywhere I guess i'ma half to order a new one. I wish there was a place that sold nice glass pieces here in the USA but Kentucky is strict on paraphanelia so we have no head shops and most online sites are outside of the U.S...

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Scientific evidence? There are studies showing either way. It depends on whether or not you want to believe independent researchers, or the GOVERNMENT which put innocent soldiers through hell in those MKULTRA experiments? The government who put out those propoganda commercials showing a kid hitting a joint twice then shooting his mom because he was "high"?? Or the ones who made reefer madness?

 

Either way its a moot point and its obvious no one will convince you to think otherwise so it is pointless to continue this discussion.

 

What credible scientific evidence is there that prolonged recreational drug use is beneficial for you? There is evidence that drugs such as cannabis can be beneficial when used in medicated doses to redress a chemical imbalance, but that's not recreational use.

 

I don't know where you get the idea that the government is behind a major conspiracy to stop people using drugs when they make a fair wedge of money from taxes on cigaretes and alcohol. Just because a government is opposed to recreational drugs doesn't mean it's incorrect. Everybody knows that refer madness is bollocks, but it's a fact that pumping chemicals into your body is oing to cause an imbalance.

 

It seems that now you've lost an arguement about morals, you're trying to argue that recreational drug use is of no harm to people which, is, frankly, bollocks.

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I'm not talking about all recreational drugs there, bollocks, i'm talkin about MARIJUANA. Common sense can tell you doing coke, meth, E isn't gonna extend your life or the quality of it...Marijuana? Dude go eat a peice of mold cheese toast and quit trolling our weed thread...before I spit on your toes and throw rocks at you.

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What trolling? You're making points, I'm exposing them as bollocks.

 

Okay, you're on about marijuana now. In that case, what medical studies have said that recreational marijuana use is beneficial? As i said before, cannabis can be beneficial when used in medicated doses to redress a chemical imbalance, but that's not recreational use. If you're getting high, it's because the dope is having a negative effect on receptors in your brain. THC provides the same effects as naturally occuring chemicals in your brain, so pumping large doese of it into your system isn't going to help. It's basic biology that if you misuse a part of your body, it will have a negative effect. No evidence is out there for cannabis being a gateway drug or for increasing the risk of cancer. However, the fact that you're pumping a drug into your system isn't going to be beneficial.

 

And this is all leaving aside the fact the people feel like they need to use drugs to have a good time. Suck it up bitches!

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QUOTE(<_< @ Aug 15 2006, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And this is all leaving aside the fact the people feel like they need to use drugs to have a good time. Suck it up bitches!

 

That is a very subjective statement. Eating a pot brownie is just one way to have a good time. I have many other outlets available for a "good time" that don't involve recreational drugs. You, however, obviously don't since you're spending so much time getting bent out of shape over what other people do with their time, bodies/brains, lives.

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Also, boasting about drug use on the internet is particularly retarded, as proved by the posters in this thread.

 

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Well done.

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And this is all leaving aside the fact the people feel like they need to use drugs to have a good time. Suck it up bitches!

 

That is a very subjective statement. Eating a pot brownie is just one way to have a good time. I have many other outlets available for a "good time" that don't involve recreational drugs. You, however, obviously don't since you're spending so much time getting bent out of shape over what other people do with their time, bodies/brains, lives.

Which maybe sugests I was making a subjective statement as opposed to a generalisation, eh?

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Well done.

 

Thanks Chave. You know, since we all care so much about what you think. I was really looking for your approval on that one. :asshole2:

Dude, if you want to flame me, take it to NHB. I'm just trying to have a discussion about dope and it's effects in a thread about dope and it's effects. Don't start flaming me because I'm making scientifically valid points as opposed to just telling someon to fuck off.

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QUOTE(<_< @ Aug 15 2006, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And this is all leaving aside the fact the people feel like they need to use drugs to have a good time. Suck it up bitches!

 

That is a very subjective statement. Eating a pot brownie is just one way to have a good time. I have many other outlets available for a "good time" that don't involve recreational drugs. You, however, obviously don't since you're spending so much time getting bent out of shape over what other people do with their time, bodies/brains, lives.

Which maybe sugests I was making a subjective statement as opposed to a generalisation, eh?

 

Using "people" sounds like a pretty broad generalization to me. If you were making a subjective statement (on purpose) then you should've said "most people" or "some people" or even "certain people" - but you didn't, so you still fail on all accounts.

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Dude, if you want to flame me, take it to NHB. I'm just trying to have a discussion about dope and it's effects in a thread about dope and it's effects. Don't start flaming me because I'm making scientifically valid points as opposed to just telling someon to fuck off.

"Everybody who uses recreational drugs is an idiot."

"Especially the ones in this thread."

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"Also, boasting about drug use on the internet is particularly retarded, as proved by the posters in this thread."

 

That's having a discussion? Sounds a lil like trolling/flamebaiting to me. If you can't take the responses you're going to get, then just fuck right off.

 

PS - :asshole2:

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And this is all leaving aside the fact the people feel like they need to use drugs to have a good time. Suck it up bitches!

 

That is a very subjective statement. Eating a pot brownie is just one way to have a good time. I have many other outlets available for a "good time" that don't involve recreational drugs. You, however, obviously don't since you're spending so much time getting bent out of shape over what other people do with their time, bodies/brains, lives.

Which maybe sugests I was making a subjective statement as opposed to a generalisation, eh?

 

Using "people" sounds like a pretty broad generalization to me. If you were making a subjective statement (on purpose) then you should've said "most people" or "some people" or even "certain people" - but you didn't, so you still fail on all accounts.

Well, saying "the fact the people feel like" is obviously grammatically incorrect regardless, so whichever way you look at it the sentance was incorrect. Of course not every single person in the world feels that they need drugs to have a good time, but a fair few do.

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Dude, if you want to flame me, take it to NHB. I'm just trying to have a discussion about dope and it's effects in a thread about dope and it's effects. Don't start flaming me because I'm making scientifically valid points as opposed to just telling someon to fuck off.

"Everybody who uses recreational drugs is an idiot."

"Especially the ones in this thread."

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"Also, boasting about drug use on the internet is particularly retarded, as proved by the posters in this thread."

 

That's having a discussion? Sounds a lil like trolling/flamebaiting to me. If you can't take the responses you're going to get, then just fuck right off.

 

PS - :asshole2:

I dunno, you're proving those comments to be pretty damn scientifically accurate.

 

You'd have to argue pretty damn hard that anybody boasting about drug use over an anonymous medium is retarded (in the slang term as opposed to the medical term before any retards start loling).

 

As for the statement that everyone who uses drugs recreationally is an idiot, no-one has yet come up with a reason to take recreational drugs which outweighs the negative effect, and as a result I think it's fair to say that you're idiots (particularly if you can't come up with a reason why). Not that there's anything wrong with being an idiot, it's kind of quaint to be ignorant to reality, but that seems to be your bug-bear, not mine.

 

NB, the smileys aren't helping.

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I dunno, you're proving those comments to be pretty damn scientifically accurate.

 

First off, I believe that the only person proving themself to be an idiot is yourself. You can't even get your sentences arranged in such a way that they support your "argument" or "point" or whatever it is you're grasping at. Ie...

 

You'd have to argue pretty damn hard that anybody boasting about drug use over an anonymous medium is retarded.

 

As for boasting? Wrong. Apparently you don't know the context in which to use this word - so please, stop using it.

 

As for the statement that everyone who uses drugs recreationally is an idiot, no-one has yet come up with a reason to take recreational drugs which outweighs the negative effect, and as a result I think it's fair to say that you're idiots (particularly if you can't come up with a reason why). Not that there's anything wrong with being an idiot, it's kind of quaint to be ignorant to reality, but that seems to be your bug-bear, not mine.

 

What reason does there need to be? Perhaps the reason that someone uses marijuana (recreationally) is in the same column as someone who has a glass of wine or two with their dinner. It doesn't have to have anything to do with "having a good time." Just because other people can endulge in it responsibly is no reason for you to go around calling them idiots.

 

The only idiot in these parts, at the moment, is yourself and the high-horse that you just can't seem to get off of.

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