Guest NYankees Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Is there any reason why? Is it because neither man wanted to Job. Them having a feud would have extended Flair's stay a little bit longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Finally, a brand new topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 They had two excellent matches at the Garden on 11/91 and 12/91 that I'm happy with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted August 3, 2006 They had two excellent matches at the Garden on 11/91 and 12/91 that I'm happy with. I was talking about a feud with a couple of ppv matches for the Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroGG_NeaL 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Probably the same reason there wasn't 2 Hogan/Michaels ppv matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 This might explain most of it. It's from the thread regarding money matches that never happened and covers the main event to Wrestlemania VIII. "The plan was always Hogan-Sid, dating back a year. Business was very different then. House shows were advertised big. You didn't do 2-3 matches in every market on a house show and then the PPV. I knew Hogan-Sid as the main event maybe 10 months out. When they did the TV announcement of Hogan-Flair, it was just an angle as Flair already knew he was facing Savage by then. What people don't realize is that Hogan-Flair started off doing good business, but it had petered out by December, months before Mania. Vince was going to build to Hogan legdropping Flair at the house shows early 1992, but after a terrible house in Florida, Vince felt it had run its course. He changed all the shows to Hogan & Piper vs. Flair & Sid, and it was Hogan-Sid drawing the money. The only Hogan-Flair Mania hint was in September of 91, when they started their house show run, and Flair wanted to do 30:00 matches and Hogan wanted 15:00, he told Flair they needed to save the 30:00 match for Mania. But when crowds for the program dropped, and second time in our market they only did 5400 at the Cow Palace, and our market had it first, there was no Mania in their future. In hindsight people think it would have been a big deal, but it had already run its course months before Mania and WWE promoted the program ass backwards and Flair wasn't considered special by WWF fans. I'm a friend of Flair and have never had any interest in paying to see Sid, but that is how it was then." Meltzer 5-31-06 Different discussion, same topic: "Vince had promised Sid the main event at Mania to get him out of a very lucrative WCW contract. Why WCW released him in the middle of a wrestling war just showed that they and Vince were playing under different rules as it never would have happened had the roles been reversed. Flair was under the impression, as was Hogan, that they would main event at Mania. The first Hogan-Flair match ever was in Dayton, OH as an unadvertised TV taping dark match a few days before Oakland, which was their second meeting, but billed as their first meeting. But the advertising of Flair vs. Hogan on TV for Mania was a work, as I'd been told Flair vs. Savage and Hogan vs. Sid about two weeks before the advertising came out. It was a Vince call because he thought Hogan vs. Sid would do more business. While the original Hogan-Flair matches such as Oakland drew very well, the gates fell pretty quickly for a number of reasons, the biggest being that they didn't promote it as a battle of champions and Flair as "something special" and the outsider facing Hogan was killed at Survivor Series. Flair as "just another" WWF wrestler facing Hogan was not a big drawing program by the time the decision was made for Mania". Meltzer 01-04-2003 on Wrestling Classics again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 I have no idea why they would promote Hogan/Flair on TV if it wasn't going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroGG_NeaL 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Me either. It must have been the network's fault. Vince never false advertises. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taker666 0 Report post Posted August 4, 2006 They had a match for the Undisputed Title on a Raw in 2002, althought it wasn't promoted as a big deal match. I remember it sucked though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted August 5, 2006 The 2002 RAW with that match on got a 2.9- one of the worst modern-day ratings ever.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jack_23 Report post Posted August 11, 2006 The 2002 RAW with that match on got a 2.9- one of the worst modern-day ratings ever.... No it didn't, it got a 3.9 http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/p.../wwf/wwfraw.htm I have to say I do not agree with the point that Hogan Vs Justice was planned a year in advanced. I do not believe McMahon would plan his main event that far ahead. Indeed, the only main event for Wrestlemania which probably was planned a year in advance was Hogan Vs Savage at WM5. You only have to look at WWE programming in late 1991 to see exactly where WWE wanted to go with Ric Flair. Circumstances just overtook them. I think it wasn't until Hogan decided he wanted some time off that the idea of the Sid v Hogan match at WM8 came into being. Flair was them shoved into a title feud with Savage who wouldn't have even rejoined the active roster if it wasn't for Hogan leaving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2006 I know it seems impossible to believe today, but back then Vince really did plan that far ahead. And more than just the WM V main event was planned in advance. Vince had Warrior eyed up to take the belt from Hogan at WM VI before Hogan had even won the belt from Savage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jack_23 Report post Posted August 12, 2006 Possibly, but I still don't think he had Justice in mind for that role until Hogan wanted some time off. Why else would they waste basically an entire winters worth of Hogan/Flair house shows, promos, storylines etc if they did not intend the two to meet? Flair's involvement in the two Hogan Vs Taker matches in late 1991 would have been pointless if they weren't going for a pay off. Also, Justice wasn't even with WWE a year before WM8. He made his debut as a referee at Summerslam 1991 and then disapeared off the radar completely until the very end of the year when the decision was already made that Hogan was going to leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2006 Possibly, but I still don't think he had Justice in mind for that role until Hogan wanted some time off. Why else would they waste basically an entire winters worth of Hogan/Flair house shows, promos, storylines etc if they did not intend the two to meet? Flair's involvement in the two Hogan Vs Taker matches in late 1991 would have been pointless if they weren't going for a pay off. Also, Justice wasn't even with WWE a year before WM8. He made his debut as a referee at Summerslam 1991 and then disapeared off the radar completely until the very end of the year when the decision was already made that Hogan was going to leave. Vince wanted Sid specifically to face Hogan in the main event at WM VIII. Justice had a very good deal with WCW lined up when Vince called him up, and Vince promised Sid the WM VIII main event against Hogan to get him to jump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroGG_NeaL 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2006 I remember reading that in one of a shitload of Dave Meltzer's old colums that I downloaded a few years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
