This Week in College Football 9/7 - 9/9

[teke184 0]

Hey Teke, what's the news with Ryan Perilloux? I haven't heard much about him after he snuffed Texas and caved into peer pressure to sign with LSU. Is he even inline for a starting job or have they tried to move him to a new position?

 

Perilloux got to play against ULL and Arizona, but in mop-up duty both times.

 

From what I can tell of the roster, Russell will be the starter this year and next year and Flynn will graduate after this season, meaning that Perilloux will slide into the #2 spot next season and be in position for the #1 slot if anything happens.

 

 

Time is on his side, so as long as he stays healthy and doesn't do anything stupid, that QB job will be his down the line.

[Carnival 0]

I can't wait for Nebraska/USC. I'm pretty sure Nebraska will lose by 20 some odd points but it'll be entertaining for a half I think.

USC by 7

[Art Sandusky 0]

What's Fulmer's excuse going to be?

I think it was thinking more about Florida next week when an Option-based team was coming to town. You can't sleep on one of those, you'll get cut to pieces. I think the extremely close win will motivate some of the younger starters (we've got enough of 'em) to put forth a full effort from here onward. It's hard not to look forward to such a huge game, but we've gotta cut down on that big time if we want to really return to the Tennessee of old.

 

Ol' Phil would spit some coachspeak about not executing or whatever. On the bright side, only three more wins will equal our total from last year!

[Vern Gagne 0]

Not at USC.

[Broward83 0]

Time is on his side, so as long as he stays healthy and doesn't do anything stupid, that QB job will be his down the line.

 

See, from what I can recall.. I remember one of the reasons he chose LSU was because he didn't want to sit behind Vince... so how is he taking having to possibly sit for the next year or so after thinking he had a legit chance at making it as a starter for LSU?

 

*shrug* I just think Ryan would've been a better fit for the offense we created for a QB like Vince.

 

Oh yeah, I'm with the consensus that USC/Nebraska will be a lot closer than people think it will be. NU could keep it within a touchdown to 10 points agaisnt USC.

[iggymcfly 0]

For your entertainment/derision, I made a Top 25 this week. Since it's early enough in the year that it doesn't mean much, I figured it certainly didn't deserve it's own thread, but I still wanted to post it.

 

1. Ohio State 2-0

2. LSU 2-0

3. USC 1-0

4. Notre Dame 2-0

5. West Virginia 2-0

6. Florida 2-0

7. Auburn 2-0

8. Michigan 2-0

9. Tennessee 2-0

10. Florida State 2-0

11. Louisville 2-0

12. Boise State 2-0

13. Texas 1-1

14. Oregon 2-0

15. Texas Tech 2-0

16. Georgia 2-0

17. Miami 1-1

18. Virginia Tech 2-0

19. Georgia Tech 1-1

20. Oklahoma 2-0

21. Nebraska 2-0

22. Arizona State 2-0

23. California 1-1

24. Clemson 1-1

25. Missouri 2-0

 

Narrow misses: Iowa State, Boston College, Pittsburgh

[HarleyQuinn 0]

I-AA continues to show they can hang with I-A teams as New Hampshire defeated Northwestern 34-17 thanks to 2 passing TD and 3 rushing TD by Ricky Santos.

 

Navy also won a hard fought game 21-20 over Massachusetts after a FG with 5:55 left.

[Slayer 0]

Bowden never blames his son.

Not yet.

 

If they end up with a .500 season because of his son's shitty offense, family loyalty may go out the window.

They almost had one last year.

 

Just imagine if they hadn't gotten lucky against VT and wound up in some random toilet bowl

[Damaramu 0]

I'm shocked. Iggy overrated GA Tech. Shocked I say. You should be an official pollster because your Top 25 always looks sooooo good. Stick to gambling.

 

Hey Slayer.....KSU is beating up on lesser competition. I know that doesn't sound good but it's something KSU hasn't done in the past few years. You excited about the new coach? Not excited?

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Are you only pissed because he has GT ranked 1 spot above OU? Because somewhere in the 18-25 range is probably right about where I'd stick Georgia Tech right now, based on what we've seen. They're not a great team but there aren't a whole lot of great-looking teams out there this early in the season. Until every team has 3-5 games under their belts, its hard to tell what kind of team they are yet.

[Damaramu 0]

Well they probably shouldn't be ranked above OU or Nebraska. And it's an Iggy thing. He always overrates GT stemming from back when he swore they were going to win the national title and they took a Sweet 16 exit.

 

Hey I think OU should stay firmly entrenched between 12-15. Right around where they were. They didn't do anything to drop but they didn't really do much to move up. Also no way Texas Tech is ranked higher than OU. Texas Tech isn't that good this year and they're nowhere near as good as they have been. They will lose in Norman and will lose by a LOT.

And no way Texas falls out of the top 10. Like I said I still think they'll probably beat OU(even though i don't want them to and will be rooting for OU and i think it will be close) and win the Big XII. Losing to #1 doesn't mean you just suck horrible. FSU, Michigan, and Tennessee definitely do not deserve to be above Texas.

Also no way you rate LSU above USC or Auburn. Hell no way you rate any other SEC team above Auburn. And FSU is NOT a Top 10 team.

[Damaramu 0]

New polls are out.

 

Week 3 AP Top 25

1. Ohio State 2-0 1,614

2. Notre Dame 2-0 1,468

3. Auburn 2-0 1,447

4. USC 1-0 1,446

5. West Virginia 2-0 1,380

6. LSU 2-0 1,287

7. Florida 2-0 1,249

8. Texas 1-1 1,150

9. Florida State 2-0 1,029

10. Georgia 2-0 944

11. Michigan 2-0 942

12. Louisville 2-0 911

13. Tennessee 2-0 782

14. Virginia Tech 2-0 763

15. Oklahoma 2-0 755

16. Iowa 2-0 690

17. Miami (FL) 1-1 625

18. Oregon 2-0 547

19. Nebraska 2-0 455

20. TCU 2-0 285

21. California 1-1 284

22. Arizona State 2-0 206

23. Boston College 2-0 193

24. Texas Tech 2-0 186

25. Penn State 1-1 95

 

Week 3 USA Today Poll

1. Ohio State (59) 2-0 1,571

2. USC (2) 1-0 1,471

3. Notre Dame (1) 2-0 1,391

4. Auburn (1) 2-0 1,369

5. West Virginia 2-0 1,293

6. Florida 2-0 1,177

7. LSU 2-0 1,159

8. Texas 1-1 1,107

9. Georgia 2-0 997

10. Florida State 2-0 977

11. Oklahoma 2-0 953

12. Louisville 2-0 905

13. Michigan 2-0 820

14. Virginia Tech 2-0 770

15. Miami (FL) 1-1 622

16. Iowa 2-0 603

17. Tennessee 2-0 600

18. Oregon 2-0 529

19. Nebraska 2-0 431

20. TCU 2-0 333

21. California 1-1 248

22. Texas Tech 2-0 231

23. Arizona State 2-0 159

24. Alabama 2-0 150

25. Boston College 2-0 146

[iggymcfly 0]

Georgia Tech's a good team. I had them at 19 in the preseason and a 4 point loss to a Notre Dame team that looked really good against Penn State didn't change my mind.

 

Oklahoma's looked really bad the first two weeks. They struggled with UAB (a pretty middle-of-the-road mid-major), and then struggled with Washington for the better part of three quarters. Washington's probably a 2-9 football team this year.

 

I just don't think they're that good with Paul Thompson at QB, and I certainly don't think they're better than Texas Tech or Oregon. For the record, I'm not the only one that feels this way as CFN has them at #27.

 

And LSU's awesome. They were my preseason #1, and they completely destroyed Arizona last week (who's improved and could be looking at a bowl this year). It's close between them and USC, but I honestly believe the Tigers are better right now. I really think they can win at Auburn.

 

Oh yeah, Texas doesn't "suck horrible", they're #13 in the country, which is about where I had them before the season started. If they'd kept it close, it would be one thing, but a 17 point loss at home just doesn't scream "national championship contender".

[Damaramu 0]

I never said they suck horrible.

And Texas Tech isn't good...they have a new QB and the same shitty Tech defense they always have.

 

Oh and OU didn't struggle for 3 quarters against Washington. They struggled for a half(if having it tied is a struggle. i figured struggling was losing) and then they destroyed Washington in the third and fourth quarter.

And if they aren't that good with Paul Thompson at QB then they weren't any good with Bomar at QB and didn't deserve to start the season in the Top 20 because Bomar was bad and I think Thompson so far is better than Bomar. And if he improves he'll definitely be better than Bomar.

Besides the players like Thompson(they hated Bomar) and it's better for a team when they actually like the QB and can have chemistry.

I don't understand why people thought they would win a national title with Bomar but now they won't with Thompson. Thompson is just as good if not better than Bomar. They wouldn't have won a title with Bomar.

And for the record I agree that Oregon and Texas will probably beat them but that'll still put them at 10-2 and in the Top 15 and probably allow them to finish second in the Big 12 and end up in the Cotton Bowl. Plus since Texas is the 5th game of the season that means they'll finish the season on a 7 game winning streak.

 

Texas Tech will finish 4th or 5th in the Big XII and it's that simple. Based off the first two weeks Oklahoma State may be better than Texas Tech. They will finish behind OU, Texas, Nebraska, and Missouri, and possibly behind OSU. Going into the season I had them finishing there and nothing that has happened thus far has made me change my mind.

[Slayer 0]

Hey Slayer.....KSU is beating up on lesser competition. I know that doesn't sound good but it's something KSU hasn't done in the past few years.

You act like cupcaking is a new concept in Manhattan. Remember Snyder was notorious for it for the longest time, but not all of it was his fault, I think. He did try his best to get caliber competition (such as Notre Dame, albeit this was during the Davies era), but they apparently felt it wasn't in their best interest. One reason I've heard as to why deals with the stadium size and gate sharing not being "reasonable" for major opposing teams, but I don't know how that shit works so I don't know if that's a legit excuse or not...

 

Anyways, they are playing Louisville in two weeks, so it's not a complete wash.

[teke184 0]

Hey Slayer.....KSU is beating up on lesser competition. I know that doesn't sound good but it's something KSU hasn't done in the past few years.

You act like cupcaking is a new concept in Manhattan. Remember Snyder was notorious for it for the longest time, but not all of it was his fault, I think. He did try his best to get caliber competition (such as Notre Dame, albeit this was during the Davies era), but they apparently felt it wasn't in their best interest. One reason I've heard as to why deals with the stadium size and gate sharing not being "reasonable" for major opposing teams, but I don't know how that shit works so I don't know if that's a legit excuse or not...

 

Anyways, they are playing Louisville in two weeks, so it's not a complete wash.

 

It's legit to a point, depending on the team.

 

 

If you're Michigan and play in front of 110,000 at The Big House, it's hard to justify playing in Manhattan, Kansas, in front of 50,000.

 

 

 

 

LSU has similar concerns, but it tries to address this by giving a larger payout for a one-time game than the opposing team would get by hosting a return game.

 

They did this with Oregon State for sure, as their stadium only holds 36,000 while Death Valley holds about 93,000. (LSU gets more than an Oregon State home sellout when playing I-AA teams like Western Illinois.)

 

 

 

Other outside influences tend to be a refusal to let a certain school gain a recruiting foothold.

 

Texas A&M has been bad about that as, IIRC, they've either issued unbelievable demands or outright refused series with LSU and Arkansas because they don't want them to get a recruiting foothold in Texas.

[Damaramu 0]

Hey Slayer.....KSU is beating up on lesser competition. I know that doesn't sound good but it's something KSU hasn't done in the past few years.

You act like cupcaking is a new concept in Manhattan. Remember Snyder was notorious for it for the longest time, but not all of it was his fault, I think. He did try his best to get caliber competition (such as Notre Dame, albeit this was during the Davies era), but they apparently felt it wasn't in their best interest. One reason I've heard as to why deals with the stadium size and gate sharing not being "reasonable" for major opposing teams, but I don't know how that shit works so I don't know if that's a legit excuse or not...

 

Anyways, they are playing Louisville in two weeks, so it's not a complete wash.

 

I wasn't calling into questioning the scheduling. I was pointing out that KSU looks good when over the past few years they haven't even looked that great against shitty teams. And I knew you were a KSU fan so it must be cool.

How long till this new coach has them as a contender?

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

KSU looked good the first week of the season? Beating a I-AA team by one point? I dunno about that. Prince is an excellent o-line recruiter, if nothing else, so K-State has that to look forward to.

[Damaramu 0]

During Texas/OSU Herbstreit made the comment that Adrian Peterson was probably the best player in the country.

My gf(who doesn't watch much football but has watched both OU games this season) said "Why does everyone keep saying he's so good? I see these other guys making huge runs and AD always gets tackled almost immediately."

 

I tried to explain to her about his freshman season and that everyone sees the talent and ability he has and I tried to explain to her that he's put up good stats this season while running at 8-9 guys. I also told her that nobody can put up monster numbers and huge runs when the line is stacked every play.

 

But that got me thinking. How is Peterson going to be able to prove that he's the best and put up Heisman numbers when he's going to be going against 8-9 guys? I suppose the easy answer is that he won't and he won't win the Heisman because he's not going to be able to break it enough because they'll swarm on him. Hell even when PT is passing good they still have everyone on the line.

 

Oh and I tried to explain to her what made Peterson different than other running backs but she didn't seem to get it. What do some of you think makes him different and causes guys like Herbstreit to declare him the best player in the country? I figure it's the fact that he's big, fast, strong, and doesn't tire. And if you get him one on one you're dead. And he's a mean runner with a ton of moves. Is that really all it takes though? What else does he have? I know some of you probably think he's nowhere close to being the best player or even the best RB in the country(you're crazy if you don't think he's the best RB). I guess I'm asking the same question as when I asked what made Vince Young so special.

He did have a good run for his Heisman reel on Saturday. The defensive lineman grabbed him by the collar and started to pull him backwards(the guy was planted and had all his strength behind it) and Peterson just shrugged him and took off.

[Slayer 0]

KSU looked good the first week of the season? Beating a I-AA team by one point?

Hey, they also shut out another I-AA school!

 

We'll not wind up like those guys to the west

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Good point. Lost in this weekend is the fact that Colorado lost to Colorado State for the first time in four years, too, continuing the inevitable downward spiral.

[mike546 0]

edit: wrong thread.

[Slayer 0]

As for Prince, I haven't seen anything to swing me either way from my initial opinion (see below)... though had they lost to Illinois State there's no doubt to the sourness that would spread across the state.

 

To be honest though, I can't say my initial opinion of him was very strong, considering he was an o-line coach for an at-best average football program, and he came across as a "you'll do" hire after all the other guys they wanted didn't take

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

He was actually the offensive coordinator, but he still doesn't have the greatest resume. He'll build you a good o-line and probably develop a pretty good power running game, but I'm skeptical about his abilities as a game coach. We generally saw pretty vanilla stuff from him.

[Damaramu 0]

Double.

 

See below.

[Damaramu 0]

They should've taken Venables off OU's hands. I don't want him here. All his supposed "magic" on D was actually Mike Stoops as we found out. Of course that helps OU....not you.

 

Yeah I forgot about the one point win Edwin. For some reason I switched their score with Kansas who I believe blew their opponent out in week 1.

 

Maybe schools won't be so quick to schedule I-AA schools now? Nah.

[Guest Princess Leena]

If teams are gonna schedule 1-AA opponents, they should only ask the very worst of them. There's no sense in beating a ranked 1-AA team, because nobody cares.

[iggymcfly 0]

KSU looked good the first week of the season? Beating a I-AA team by one point?

Hey, they also shut out another I-AA school!

 

We'll not wind up like those guys to the west

 

Believe it or not, that other team they shut out actually plays I-A football. It's Florida Atlantic and they're the dregs of the Sun Belt. Not that there aren't about 50 I-AA teams better than them, but they do at least carry I-A status.

[Slayer 0]

Well that'll knock an extra .0005 of their BCS score then.

[Slayer 0]

If teams are gonna schedule 1-AA opponents, they should only ask the very worst of them. There's no sense in beating a ranked 1-AA team, because nobody cares.

Well, the fun thing is that, for some reason I can't say, the top I-AA schools aren't afraid to play notable I-A programs in one-off games...