This Week in College Football 9/14 - 9/16

[Guest Princess Leena]

But, most did see the highlights of Clemson/FSU. And can easily see that the game wouldn't have been close if Clemson wasn't a horrible kicking team. This is a case of name recognition ruining the polls. Which ruins the game.

[Carnival 0]

I wonder if it'd been a better game if Nebraska had actually showed up with something resembling a gameplan.

Then again USC was running a very vanilla offense.

So I'm sure if Nebraska had actually played a real football game then the playbook would open and USC would eat them alive.

Even today I'm totally confused by Callahan's gameplan.

I think he was trying to not get blown out, starting from the opening whistle. It's like he already gave up before the game and just didn't want nebraska to look like shit and lose by 35. They still ended up looking like shit.

[Damaramu 0]

But, most did see the highlights of Clemson/FSU. And can easily see that the game wouldn't have been close if Clemson wasn't a horrible kicking team. This is a case of name recognition ruining the polls. Which ruins the game.

 

Yeah.....that's why polls suck.

The writers and coaches vote off names and scores without actually paying attention.

The heisman voters vote off flash and who is being hyped the most. Not actual contribution to the team or being the best player in college football.

Then of course the computers just have all kinds of kinks in their formula.

 

None of it is perfect. Meanwhile ESPN sits back and complains about it all and acts like they're above it all without actually coming up with a solution. Oh and they contradict themselves and appear as hypocrites.

 

Oh man. Several facebook groups have popped up at OU about them getting screwed including several petitions(one is even national and garnering signatures from other schools) to not only get the refs fired but to get the outcome of the game overturned!!!! Hahaha. I hope they don't think that'll actually work.

[Guest Princess Leena]

I wonder if it'd been a better game if Nebraska had actually showed up with something resembling a gameplan.

Then again USC was running a very vanilla offense.

So I'm sure if Nebraska had actually played a real football game then the playbook would open and USC would eat them alive.

Even today I'm totally confused by Callahan's gameplan.

I think he was trying to not get blown out, starting from the opening whistle. It's like he already gave up before the game and just didn't want nebraska to look like shit and lose by 35. They still ended up looking like shit.

 

Callahan just tried to shorten the game, and hope USC fucked up some. Which doesn't exactly fill your team with confidence, but it can work. See Buffalo today. He just stuck with running too long.

[Damaramu 0]

It looked to me like Zac Taylor was about to revolt at one point. He was giving the sideline pissed off looks and shaking his head and just looking totally pissed.

I would've revolted and audibled until he took me out of the game. I mean I don't know the etiquette on that but as a senior QB leader I'd want to give my team a chance to win despite what the coach says.

[Black Lushus 0]

the one time Callahan actually went with some West Coast Offense, they sustained a lengthy drive and scored a TD...so what does he do? Run run run the rest of the way...dude was a moron in Oakland, he's a moron now.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

the one time Callahan actually went with some West Coast Offense, they sustained a lengthy drive and scored a TD...so what does he do? Run run run the rest of the way...dude was a moron in Oakland, he's a moron now.

 

I thought the whole point of Callahan going to Nebraska was to run a more modern offense and yet here he is doing nothing but running plays.

[Damaramu 0]

the one time Callahan actually went with some West Coast Offense, they sustained a lengthy drive and scored a TD...so what does he do? Run run run the rest of the way...dude was a moron in Oakland, he's a moron now.

 

I thought the whole point of Callahan going to Nebraska was to run a more modern offense and yet here he is doing nothing but running plays.

 

They said something about how this was resembling a Tom Osbourne offense.....Osbourne would've called better running plays.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Yeah and he had Tommy Frazier and Lawrence Phillips to run his offense through.

[Guest]

Also, whoever said Dixon didn't have anything in common with Vince Young is pretty uninformed. They're both extremely fast quarterbacks with good accuracy who played a controlled role during their Sophomore years. Remember, Dennis Dixon is only a Junior, so far the only game hes lost was the bowl game to Oklahoma. I'm not saying this guy is the second coming of VY, but its stupid to think the comparisons are only because they're both black QBs.

I don't think they're very similar. Dixon is a better thrower, and Young is a better runner. Dixon really isn't that fast.

 

I wonder if it'd been a better game if Nebraska had actually showed up with something resembling a gameplan.

Then again USC was running a very vanilla offense.

I finished this game earlier today. The offense that USC ran shouldn't have scored them too many points. They're keeping it basic and working in the freshmen before they start throwing in the more complex stuff. I don't think that this team is better than last year's by any stretch, but I like watching this team more. Defensive football is the kind of football I would pay to watch (that's why I love SEC football). Fortunately, SC's defense is great. Love the linebackers.

 

It's a crime that Oregon is ranked that low, and a crime that OU isn't ranked higher than Iowa. That's all.

[Damaramu 0]

Yeah but if Nebraska had run a better offense and actually scored then USC's offense would've changed and they would've put up more points......right King?

 

I can't believe you're actually high on OU. I thought everyone here hated them. So you think they'll win the Big XII?

I'm not saying it's a lock by any stretch. But I know the winner of OU/Texas will do it and OU has a very real shot in that game.

Let's not forget that they beat Texas 5 straight with teams that were less talented than Texas some of those years.

[Guest]

No, USC was going to run that offense all game. They're going to do it next week too. When they play Arizona State, they'll open it up, because they'll have to.

 

I think OU will get upset somewhere along the line, like at shitty A&M. I think they'll beat Texas and win the Big XII. Texas is the best team in the Big XII, but I don't think they'll be able to put their talent together until the end of the year.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Tennessee's ranking is totally fair... ...for now.

 

And Auburn should damn well be ranked ahead of USC. Oklahoma isn't around this year, so it's payback time for you guys instead.

[Guest]

I'd like to see it, but there's no way Auburn's making it through their schedule. Plus, SC stomped them in Auburn when the Tigers were ranked really high, the year before they both went undefeated. Unwarrantedly high, but still.

 

I'd rather play LSU, but I don't think USC is getting to the national title game, so I will settle for beating Michigan. If Ohio State loses a game, it's to those guys and they don't get to the Rose Bowl.

[Jorge Gorgeous 0]

Also, whoever said Dixon didn't have anything in common with Vince Young is pretty uninformed. They're both extremely fast quarterbacks with good accuracy who played a controlled role during their Sophomore years. Remember, Dennis Dixon is only a Junior, so far the only game hes lost was the bowl game to Oklahoma. I'm not saying this guy is the second coming of VY, but its stupid to think the comparisons are only because they're both black QBs.

I don't think they're very similar. Dixon is a better thrower, and Young is a better runner. Dixon really isn't that fast.

 

Yeah, Dennis Dixon runs the 40 yard dash in a thick country gravyesque 4.4 seconds. He really isn't that fast.

[Guest]

Game speed is different than a 40 time. Compared to Vince Young, he is not that fast. That's what I was trying to say.

 

Vince Young, behind Deion Sanders and Reggie Bush respectively, is one of the fastest people I've ever seen. Vince Young is probably the best college football player I've ever seen. It's not fair to compare a QB that hasn't started a full season to him. Dennis Dixon's mistakes nearly cost his team the game, and should have cost his team the game.

[Jorge Gorgeous 0]

Game speed is different than a 40 time. Compared to Vince Young, he is not that fast. That's what I was trying to say.

 

Vince Young, behind Deion Sanders and Reggie Bush respectively, is one of the fastest people I've ever seen.

 

40 time doesn't equal field time, of course, but its not completely irrelevant either. I think comparing Dixon to Young at this point is a stretch of ludicrous proportions. Vince Young has a college resume' that most quarterbacks can only dream of. However, for someone to say that they have nothing in common, as was stated earlier, is fucking dumb and comes across as a little bit of VY hero worship. They're both fast, they're both accurate, and now, they've both beat Oklahoma (and been beat BY Oklahoma.) I doubt Dixon will ever even approach the accomplishments of Young, I don't mean to come across as some big fan of his, but when people shit out their mouths that the only thing they have in common is skin tone, then I have to play the role of Dixon fan... thats not even a role I want to play.

[Guest]

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Anything but a VY nuthugger. I've been shitting on his NFL prospects all year.

 

I'm not a big believer in stats by any stretch, but this is a big one for me. Dennis Dixon has 21 carries for 83 yards. His long run is 17 yards. I can accept the fact that they may be similar passers, but Dennis Dixon will never run for over 1,000 yards in an individual season in his life. Dixon's a better passer and Young's a better runner. That's just the way I look at it. I do not think they have much in common, as Dixon is not the leader that Young is, or the runner that he is. Dixon is like Alex Smith.

[Jorge Gorgeous 0]

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Anything but a VY nuthugger. I've been shitting on his NFL prospects all year.

 

I'm not a big believer in stats by any stretch, but this is a big one for me. Dennis Dixon has 21 carries for 83 yards. His long run is 17 yards. I can accept the fact that they may be similar passers, but Dennis Dixon will never run for over 1,000 yards in an individual season in his life. Dixon's a better passer and Young's a better runner. That's just the way I look at it. I do not think they have much in common, as Dixon is not the leader that Young is, or the runner that he is. Dixon is like Alex Smith.

 

Well, Dixon probably has bigger hands than Alex Smith, but you could be right. I also recognize that Dixon, both through his own personal talents and the offense Oregon runs, will never run for 1000 yards (or probably even 500) but the man is fast, and has the ability to break some big plays on his feet.

[Damaramu 0]

I can't believe Herbstreit said Peterson shouldn't be the Heisman leader b/c OU lost. It's not his fault. It's not for the best player on the #1 team Kirk! It's for the best player!

As of right now Peterson deserves the Heisman. He's been putting up better numbers than his freshman year and he's doing it with a bad offensive line, like one playmaking receiver, and a QB nobody is afraid of. OH and he's doing it against 8-9 guys in the box all the time!

I don't see how Troy Smith is the Heisman winner over Peterson now. Smith is playing really well but he's doing it with a ton of talent meanwhile Peterson is doing it pretty much by himself!

 

Apparently the Pac 10 has apologized and suspended the officiating crew and the replay official. They admit it was the wrong call. Doesn't do much to help OU though.

Also the Pac 10 admits that the call cost OU the game.

[teke184 0]

I'd like to see it, but there's no way Auburn's making it through their schedule. Plus, SC stomped them in Auburn when the Tigers were ranked really high, the year before they both went undefeated. Unwarrantedly high, but still.

 

I'd rather play LSU, but I don't think USC is getting to the national title game, so I will settle for beating Michigan. If Ohio State loses a game, it's to those guys and they don't get to the Rose Bowl.

 

I'd LOVE to see one particular game in the BCS bowls this year...

 

Provided Ohio State goes to the title game, I'd want to see a Rose Bowl of USC and LSU.

 

 

Given the bad blood between the programs and fans since 2003, that would be a natural for selling tickets and getting interest from TV audiences.

[teke184 0]

I can't believe Herbstreit said Peterson shouldn't be the Heisman leader b/c OU lost. It's not his fault. It's not for the best player on the #1 team Kirk! It's for the best player!

As of right now Peterson deserves the Heisman. He's been putting up better numbers than his freshman year and he's doing it with a bad offensive line, like one playmaking receiver, and a QB nobody is afraid of. OH and he's doing it against 8-9 guys in the box all the time!

I don't see how Troy Smith is the Heisman winner over Peterson now. Smith is playing really well but he's doing it with a ton of talent meanwhile Peterson is doing it pretty much by himself!

 

Apparently the Pac 10 has apologized and suspended the officiating crew and the replay official. They admit it was the wrong call. Doesn't do much to help OU though.

Also the Pac 10 admits that the call cost OU the game.

 

At least the Pac 10 is admitting it.

 

The SEC is insisting that the calls to LSU-Auburn were all above-board, despite the pass interference call against LSU and the subsequent PI call waved off against Auburn.

[Guest]

I'd like to see it, but there's no way Auburn's making it through their schedule. Plus, SC stomped them in Auburn when the Tigers were ranked really high, the year before they both went undefeated. Unwarrantedly high, but still.

 

I'd rather play LSU, but I don't think USC is getting to the national title game, so I will settle for beating Michigan. If Ohio State loses a game, it's to those guys and they don't get to the Rose Bowl.

 

I'd LOVE to see one particular game in the BCS bowls this year...

 

Provided Ohio State goes to the title game, I'd want to see a Rose Bowl of USC and LSU.

 

 

Given the bad blood between the programs and fans since 2003, that would be a natural for selling tickets and getting interest from TV audiences.

I'd love it too.

[Black Lushus 0]

is Oklahoma the only team in college football, guys? I can't really tell when I read these threads...

[Guest Princess Leena]

is Oklahoma the only team in college football, guys? I can't really tell when I read these threads...

 

Heh.

 

And I disagree about Auburn having a tough schedule. They got all the tough teams at home, outside of Alabama, which may only be tough since it's a rivalry game at the end of the year.

 

Of course, they have to get by Buffalo this week first. One play at a time.

[Damaramu 0]

I can't believe Herbstreit said Peterson shouldn't be the Heisman leader b/c OU lost. It's not his fault. It's not for the best player on the #1 team Kirk! It's for the best player!

As of right now Peterson deserves the Heisman. He's been putting up better numbers than his freshman year and he's doing it with a bad offensive line, like one playmaking receiver, and a QB nobody is afraid of. OH and he's doing it against 8-9 guys in the box all the time!

I don't see how Troy Smith is the Heisman winner over Peterson now. Smith is playing really well but he's doing it with a ton of talent meanwhile Peterson is doing it pretty much by himself!

 

Apparently the Pac 10 has apologized and suspended the officiating crew and the replay official. They admit it was the wrong call. Doesn't do much to help OU though.

Also the Pac 10 admits that the call cost OU the game.

 

At least the Pac 10 is admitting it.

 

The SEC is insisting that the calls to LSU-Auburn were all above-board, despite the pass interference call against LSU and the subsequent PI call waved off against Auburn.

 

 

Well the conferences won't admit to wrong doing when both of their teams are involved. OU got screwed against Texas Tech last year too and the Big XII was like "What? There was a game between OU and Texas Tech?"

You know if OU hadn't gotten screwed they'd have a winning streak up there with TCU. 12 games in a row.

 

What does this do for OU now? Will the voters and the media take it easy on them? Will they vote now like OU is undefeated? The Pac 10 basically admitted that OU should win the game!

And I said before how could Oregon fans be proud of this win and several told me they were.........NOW how can you be proud when your own conference basically admits you should've lost!?

 

Herbstreit needs an email telling him that the Heisman is for the best player not the best player on the #1 team because then Peterson would be above Smith. I know Herbstreit is going to prop Smith up all year b/c he's an OSU alumni. Peterson might get screwed out of the Heisman due to ESPN politics. Great.......and it's not like it's Peterson's fault OU lost!

 

And Lushus fortunately or unfortunately the OU fan here has the loudest voice.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I'd like to see it, but there's no way Auburn's making it through their schedule. Plus, SC stomped them in Auburn when the Tigers were ranked really high, the year before they both went undefeated. Unwarrantedly high, but still.

 

I'd rather play LSU, but I don't think USC is getting to the national title game, so I will settle for beating Michigan. If Ohio State loses a game, it's to those guys and they don't get to the Rose Bowl.

 

I'd LOVE to see one particular game in the BCS bowls this year...

 

Provided Ohio State goes to the title game, I'd want to see a Rose Bowl of USC and LSU.

 

 

Given the bad blood between the programs and fans since 2003, that would be a natural for selling tickets and getting interest from TV audiences.

I'd love it too.

I would too, and I have no rooting interest. Two of the best programs of recent history who haven't met during this run--it'd be awesome. Rose Bowl's a perfect setting.

[Carnival 0]

And Lushus fortunately or unfortunately the OU fan here has the loudest voice.

[Black Lushus 0]

Dama, bro, I have no problems with you liking OU whatsoever...that's your team man, I know...but good lord, the rest of the group is talking about different games, schools and conferences and you still continue to either whine or brag about OU, no matter what the conversation is about.

 

"Hey man, it's gonna be a cold day in Oregon today, their game with Oregon St. will be tough!"

 

"yeah I know what ya mean, man, I get cold chills thinking about who OU's planning on recruiting for next year!"

[Damaramu 0]

Oh well! That's my fucking team. It's who I want to talk about!

And seems how the things I just mentioned ARE newsworthy it bears discussion.