Saw 3

[2GOLD 0]

The fourth one is simple.

 

Jigsaw has already set up the traps and tricks for the guys Daughter so who knows what else is going on behind the scenes. Plus we still don't have a final answer on what happened to Doctor Gordon and Detective Matthews. I don't know, I'd rather they would stop.

[NoCalMike 0]

The fourth one is simple.

 

Jigsaw has already set up the traps and tricks for the guys Daughter so who knows what else is going on behind the scenes. Plus we still don't have a final answer on what happened to Doctor Gordon and Detective Matthews. I don't know, I'd rather they would stop.

 

but what would be the justification of putting his daughter in a puzzle, because she whined about her christmas present not being good enough, so he thinks she takes life for granted? Regarding Doctor Gordon and Detective Matthews, I wouldn't mind getting a clear conclusion to their stories, so yeah I guess there is enough material kind of out there to make a Saw 4, but they better get a good writer, because it has the potential to be really good or really awful

[Jonathon 0]

SOMEONE DESCRIBE THIS SURGERY SCENE!

[2GOLD 0]

What was his justification for putting the mother and daughter of Doctor Gordon in a puzzle in part one? Its the incentive to go through with it and make you realize someone else's life is more important than your own. A "Think about others and not just yourself" deal. I mean, it is all there if they wish to do it but I think it has too much risk of being horrible. I loved part three since it finally made everything from all three movies make perfect sense, it gave you a perfect idea of what was going in this story and showed that Amanda just wasn't Jigsaw.

 

Lots of plot points they haven't filled in but I know for a fact that you'd have to stop at four.

 

Look at the questions left unanswered

 

1. What did Jigsaw mean by "clean up your mess" regarding Matthews?

2. What really happened to Doctor Gordon?

3. Where is Jigsaw's wife? What happened to her? Why wasn't she with him?

4. Can Jeff finally change and save his daughter after causing the death of his wife and son?

 

Plenty to work with, just would take someone with a brain and writing ability.

[2GOLD 0]

SOMEONE DESCRIBE THIS SURGERY SCENE!

 

To relieve pressure on his brain, the doctor lady removes the skin from his skull with a normal scalpel. She then takes a power drill and drills four small holes into it. Then she takes a saw and slices off the skull, revealing the brain skin which she then cuts off. All of this is done in graphic, you see each hole drilled, you see the skull buzzed through and you see the bloody pulsing brain.

 

That's the surgery scene in light detail.

[Guest mrbutcherer]

Just got home from seeing this film and must say this is THE BEST horror film I have seen all year. The traps rocked, the story was well done, and it answered pretty much all the questions someone might have from the first two films.

 

To the people that think that there can be a Saw IV, I highly doubt it can be done. That's all I'm going to say without giving anything away.

 

I would compare this to

The Devil's Rejects in the way that everyone died that can be tied to another sequel.

 

 

But I have to ask

did she really die? She got shot alright, and went limp. But I'm thinking she passed out from shock/loss of blood than died. She wasn't exactly bleeding a gusher, it wasn't spurting out so it didn't look like her artery was hit. I imagine she was in pain, freaking out with everything Jigsaw revealed to her, and then, pfft. She passed out.

And for Mathews, Jigsaw did imply that he "took care" of Amanda's "mess." I can almost see Mathews surviving into part 4, some sort of pseudo disciple. I mean, seeing what Amanda went through in all 3 films, and how she was a fanatic of Jigsaw AFTER the shit he put her through, that stockholm syndrome shit, I can see Mathews being grateful for being alive and grateful his son was okay, and somehow, someway becoming new disciple in Saw 4. For anyone who'd say how can Jigsaw rig that up, didn't have enough time to enlist new protege, etc., you have to remember he hooked up the game in part 3 without Amanda being aware she was being tested.

Jigsaw had time enough to rig a game around her, research new subjects that she didn't know about, and clean up her mess. And because he detested killers, and saw her as a failed experiment, who's to say he wouldn't line up Mathews as his next-in-line.

 

 

Usually when someone spits up blood, that means they are dying.

 

Haha not to be snarky, you mean like on wwe tv? Cause on tv, if you see somebody spitting up blood, then it usually means they're trying to put an injury over as serious. LoL.

 

Sorry.

[Guest mrbutcherer]

The fourth one is simple.

 

Jigsaw has already set up the traps and tricks for the guys Daughter so who knows what else is going on behind the scenes. Plus we still don't have a final answer on what happened to Doctor Gordon and Detective Matthews. I don't know, I'd rather they would stop.

 

but what would be the justification of putting his daughter in a puzzle, because she whined about her christmas present not being good enough, so he thinks she takes life for granted? Regarding Doctor Gordon and Detective Matthews, I wouldn't mind getting a clear conclusion to their stories, so yeah I guess there is enough material kind of out there to make a Saw 4, but they better get a good writer, because it has the potential to be really good or really awful

 

 

So far the writing seems quite capable, and I could see two more movies being brought along to fully realize the story. Most horror series are already scraping the bottom of the barrel for new material, before they retcon things in to add extra stories.

But with all the unexplained unanswered plots left, like what you two were pointing out, we could easily see two more with in-depth writing before they even begin to think of scouring through the bottom of the barrel. I mean, look at part 3 for example. Amanda's story was even more fully fleshed out, really drawing her role much more deeply into the first movie, and with so many unknowns still roaming, and the storyline actually getting richer and richer, I don't fear the quality or potential to plop anytime soon.

 

I mean, could I have done without the gore? Okay, sure I guess. But it, for me, added much more to the story this time. It shows the differences between student and teacher, illustrates their philosophies of the game being run. That stood out pretty easy on first viewing.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

I could see two more movies being brought along to fully realize the story.

With Saw III debuting over the weekend to the tune of around $35 million, Lionsgate is expected to move ahead with plans for a fourth installment in the horror film series centering on psychotic killer Jigsaw. According to an Associated Press report, the studio will release Saw IV around Halloween 2007.

 

Actor Tobin Bell, who plays Jigsaw, has already publicly stated that he's signed on for fourth and fifth films in the series.

 

So, should we just count on Saw movies every Halloween for the rest of our lives? Maybe. With the sweet cost-to-benefit ratio on these films, it's a no-brainer for Lionsgate. Saw, the original surprise horror hit of 2004, cost just $1.2 million to make, it ended up grossing over $102 million worldwide. Saw II, which debuted last Halloween, cost the studio around $4 million, and earned over $144 million worldwide. And Saw III has already made three times its $10 million pricetag. Until the films get cost prohibitive, or fans lose interest, it's almost a sure thing that the series will continue.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I love the SAW series. I mean it will gross people out, but it has elaborate storytelling to make up for it, not like Hostel where it has gore just to have gore. And I've seen a lot of horror movies so visual doesn't really bother me anymore unless it has something to do with the eyes. I'm more sickened by sound like when

Det. Matthews decides to use the toilet cover to break his foot to get free. I was so glad to see him come back.

. Hearing a snap or a crack will make me cringe.

 

Quick question:

 

Who was behind Kerry when she looked into the mirror at the beginning? I thought it was some guy, but I'm guessing it was most likely Amanda.

 

About Jigsaw:

 

I don't think he's dead. I mean if Danny Glover can survive getting his throat cut, so can Jigsaw! I'm pretty sure Jeff will figure out a way to save him at the last minute in order to find his daughter.

 

About Dr. Gordon and Det. Matthews

 

Seeing how Amanda was a fucking cunt about killing people regardless whether they passed the test and that how it turns she actually killed Adam (even though really she actually did him a favor IMO), I think its safe to say she finished off Dr. Gordon and Det. Matthews as well.

 

My only gripes:

 

Very sad to see Kerry die. I really liked her character throughout the series and then she gets treated like a total jobber without ever knowing what happened to Eric.

 

Wish they went more into Jigsaw's past regarding his wife / lover. That came out of nowhere.

 

Unless I missed it, it wasn't revealed what was in the envolope that got Amanda all crazy.

 

Was ANYBODY hoping Jeff would take Amanda's place as Jigsaw's pupil? I was seeing how Jeff pretty much lost everything and had played an awesome game using the very people who affected his life. ARGH!

 

And finally pretty disappointed, it turns out for a change that somebody else wasn't "in it" like Zepp / Amanda. I was hoping to see another pawn revealed.

 

But even with those small gripes, it didn't affect my overall enjoyment of the part 3. Hope they keep milking the series for all its worth!

[cd213 0]

My only gripes:

 

Wish they went more into Jigsaw's past regarding his wife / lover. That came out of nowhere.

 

But even with those small gripes, it didn't affect my overall enjoyment of the part 3. Hope they keep milking the series for all its worth!

 

I'm wondering if they can go into that in the next film. Since Tobin Bell signed on for parts 4 and 5, they can answer something like that.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

Seeing how Amanda was a fucking cunt about killing people regardless whether they passed the test and that how it turns she actually killed Adam (even though really she actually did him a favor IMO), I think its safe to say she finished off Dr. Gordon and Det. Matthews as well.

Jigsaw clearly states that Amanda left Det. Matthews to die (which means she didn't kill him) and that he had to clean up the mess. Since Jigsaw doesn't kill people, it is not hard to assume that Matthews could be alive. Also, he could be the victim of another game in #4 since I doubt Jigsaw would just let him leave.

 

As for Dr. Gordon, well I assume he's dead but it's never really made clear one way or another. Hell, I barely remember him being mentioned in #2 and 3 outside of his ties to newer victims.

[dubq 0]

I thought this was a good movie. Way better than the piece of shit part 2.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Hilarious and shitty, just like the other two, but still fun. I love shitty horror movie matinees.

 

The naked woman getting tortured to death with the freezing water was a bit much, though, especially with the camera leering at her the whole time. Her abuse was the only time any of these movies has actually made me uncomfortable; everything else is just goofy.

[Youth N Asia 0]

I've liked every movie less since the first. I never felt scared for anything or anyone in Saw 3. Didn't affect me at all. The only scene that made me wince at all was the compund fracture in The Rack

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I thought this was a good movie. Way better than the piece of shit part 2.

 

Which sums up my feelings on it after watching it on DVD.

 

And I dont think it was as bad in the gore dept as the 2nd one except for the Brain Surgery thing. And what the hell were they thinking with the pig guts trap for the Judge.

[cabbageboy 0]

Well, I think this 3rd one is a bit more complex in terms of storytelling, but #2 was way more terrifying. There isn't anything in the 3rd movie that truly disturbed me after seeing it, whereas stuff like Amanda getting tossed into the bed of hypodermic needles was truly terrifying in the 2nd. Or the one chick getting her arms caught trying to get the antidote. Just nightmarish.

 

Maybe it's because Saw 3 is a longer film it dilutes the chills? As far as Jeff being a pupil, I can see his mind being blown and him going off the deep end.

 

 

It makes more sense than Zepp at any rate. That Zepp thing at the end of Saw 1 was a wild twist on 1st viewing, but once I thought about it I realized how idiotic it was. Why, yes. This madman gave me a slow acting poison. I could A) Join him and kidnap a woman and her child or B) Simply go to the hospital where I ALREADY WORK and ask for an antidote. And don't give the the bullshit of "Jigsaw only had the antidote." I'm sure a hospital could find an antidote for almost anything given a proper amount of time, and since the poison was slow moving they would have a proper amount of time.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Jigsaw clearly states that Amanda left Det. Matthews to die (which means she didn't kill him) and that he had to clean up the mess. Since Jigsaw doesn't kill people, it is not hard to assume that Matthews could be alive. Also, he could be the victim of another game in #4 since I doubt Jigsaw would just let him leave.

 

Quite true upon re-watching the movie. In an earlier post I made, I asked who was behind Kerry when she was at the mirror. It was Det. Matthews! Now, it could be that she was so worried about him that her mind was just tripping out and she was seeing things before she was captured or (and I would have a

REALLY hard time believing that) Det. Matthews would actually wind up working with / for Jigsaw and help cause the death of one of his friends. It would just be too Russo-ish.

 

Also, its been talked about that SAW IV will be a prequel, which more than likely explains Jigsaw's past including

the mysterious girlfriend / wife / lover we saw in his flashback in III.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

My local Blockbuster fucked up and had the SAW Trilogy Box Set out fot a sale a week earlier than it was supposed to so of course I snagged it up to get part 3 early. The only problem is I would've been even more happier with this if Lions Gate had waited the full year to release the new stuff that was added on the Unrated version because there is not a whole lot changed between that and the Director's Cut overall. In other words, you would've experienced the full impact of the difference if you've only seen the theatrical version. Anyway, read below if you want the details on the film itself about the things that were cut from the original theatrical version. The stuff in italic is what's added to the Director's Cut, while the other stuff was added to the earlier released Unrated version and is kept on the DC as well. I think the most surprising thing to know is that the brain surgery scene was never altered.

 

The first noticeable difference is that the opening scene is more violent. The shots of Eric's heel being broken are much closer, and more detail is shown.

 

When Kerry is discussing Eric with Rigg, the scene is slightly extended, showing her commenting on how she can't sleep because of his disappearance.

 

When Kerry's trap triggers, a frontal shot is shown of her ribs being torn from her torso, leaving her organs exposed. Flashes showcase her innards dropping to the floor.

 

The next noticeable difference is during Danica's Freezer Trap. A few extra shots show Jeff slamming the door, trying to get out.

 

Amanda is being haunted by Adam's ghost in a nightmare she has in Jigsaw's lair (the workshop from the first SAW movie) because she feels guilty knowing that Adam is locked away in the bathroom having been sentenced to death by dehydration / starvation by Jigsaw for failing his game and she leaves the room (Jigsaw is asleep, but he wakes up to see her leave) to grant Adam a quicker death.

 

During the Rack, Tim's limbs are shown much more, showcasing his skin tearing as the bone shatters out of his skin. The flashback fight scene between Amanda and Eric is also extended. Amanda is shown hearing Eric's cries for his son, and seems distressed. While maneuvering in the corridor, Eric sneaks up on her and the fight resumes from there.

 

After Jigsaw asks Amanda to leave the room to give him and Dr. Denlon some alone time to which Amanda disregards his wish, he asks Lynn to leave the room instead so he can talk some sense into Amanda. Lynn decides to make an escape, but can't open the front gate lock. Realizing she's taking too long to pick the lock with various tools, she puts everything back to make it look like nothing happened, but Amanda comes back out to tell that Jigsaw wants to speak to her before noticing that one of the doors is unlocked and her and Lynn engage in a brutal catfight. (This is a deleted scene that has been reincorporated back into the film. However, the other deleted scene of Adam meeting Amanda in his apartment's lobby remains on the cutting floor)

 

The last and most major difference is the film's ending:

 

- In the theatrical, once the montage of the victims passes by, Lynn's corpse is shown quickly, before cutting to Jeff screaming, then on Jigsaw's corpse, and finally cutting to black.

 

- In the Unrated, during the montage the music slighty overlaps, skipping a couple of seconds forward, and then showing Lynn's mutilated head, zooming in on the gory details, and then slowly fading out to white.

 

- In the director's cut, once the montage of the victims passes by, Lynn's corpse is shown quickly, before fading to white then to black. Then the ending CONTINUES with it fading in with Jeff, now all alone, crawling over to pick up the tape recorder (Jigsaw does NOT play it in this version because he dies before he was able to and dropped it) as he's talking to Lynn's corpse, telling her how beautiful her hair is and that he is going to get them out of the room. He sits down next to her dead body and plays the tape while he's kissing her bloody hand. "Hello Zepp" plays again and Jigsaw reveals in his message that he is the only person that knows where Jeff's daughter is. She is locked in another room with a limited supply of air and to get her back, Jeff will have to play another game. Jeff gets up with his eyes wide open and SAW III ends with him screaming before cutting to the credits.

 

I can tell you I'm completely satisfied by the final ending change and I wish this was the ending that we all saw in the theater last year. : )