Wtf?

[Guest Angle-plex]

Hey, if Angle didn't get over, and then got pushed 36477777546 times because he was Shane's friend, I wouldn't like him either.

[Guest Nezbyte]

Me thinks that is a lie.

 

What if that happened? Would you root on test?

[Guest Angle-plex]

I like whoever entertains me the most. Test has never kept me on the edge of me seat, or made me laugh at loud. Angle had many times. However, Test continues to be on my TV screen constantly! He beats Bob Holly clean when Angle has to cheat to beat him on Velocity! They ruined any chance of me liking Test by pushing him down my throat all the time. Same thing is happening with Brock Lesnar.

[Guest Nezbyte]

Smarks are fickle. He may be your favorite guy 2 months from now.

[Guest Angle-plex]

Not a chance.

[Guest Dangerous A]

I tend to disagree with AWO members and HHHaters a lot, but Angle-Plex is right. Lesnar is NOT ALL THAT!! As much as people give HHH for not getting a reaction, Lesnar doesn't ge much reaction either. He doesn't get booed or cheered. He gets some Ohh's for the power moves, but cruisers get the same for their high flying. Doesn't mean they are ALL THAT. Lesnar has the look of a future star, but a lot of people pimp him and there is a lot to be desired from him.

[Guest Nezbyte]

I ment Test, but, whatever.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

To you he's not.

 

..and to all the people that bitch about Test getting pushes, he had nowhere near the monster-god push Angle got right after he came into the WWF. But that's allright. Angle=Good. Anyone else=bad. I think I see now how this 'logic' works.

 

It must be nice to be a parrot.

Tell me, how do you type with clawss?

 

-Shiro

Ouch.

[Guest benoitrules2000]

I agree, it's a shame he got buried by sat...I mean triple h because he really got over during that period but like always, ol' h3 buried him.

 

Gees this went way off topic didn't it?

[Guest TheDames7]

Just wanted to say something on Test and BREAK THE SILENCE~!

 

If you go back and watch SummerSlam '99 and his match with Shane, you'll notice that at the end of the match, the fans are going absolutely apeshit for Test. His moves got pops, especially the flying elbow. His heat started to decrease dramaticallly when he feuded with a detoriating Bulldog after that and was then killed when he was repeatedly punked out by DX.

 

In my opinion, he could be over again, but he just hasn't found the right niche for him yet. I'll agree that he doesn't have much charisma, but as part of T&A, he was pretty funny in his interactions with a heel Steph and making Star Wars references with Albert.

 

Dames

[Guest joshicho]

I dont like Test. Period.

[Guest Rob Van Dam]

To you he's not.

 

..and to all the people that bitch about Test getting pushes, he had nowhere near the monster-god push Angle got right after he came into the WWF. But that's allright. Angle=Good. Anyone else=bad. I think I see now how this 'logic' works.

 

It must be nice to be a parrot.

Tell me, how do you type with clawss?

 

-Shiro

uh no, Test does suck

Angle doesn't

[Guest GenerationNever]

This thread isn't about Test. Can we get back on-topic?

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

too late.

 

I'm not gonna lie, that SS match was a great match, and I was going apeshit by the end too. I heard that they used this thing called "storyline" or something, but i've never heard of it.

 

Anyway, maybe Test could be good some day, but right now he sucks. Instead of thinking of ways to get him over, they should be thinking of ways to talk him into going to OVW so he can be a better wrestler. Plus, maybe his interviews wouldn't be so bad that they warrent thier own thread on here in the middle of the show.

 

He also has Perry Saturn Finisher of the Week disease.

[Guest converge241]

well, somehow this turned into a Test thread..

 

if they had given the belt at Survivor Series 99 like they thought about (instead of Show or Kane) he would have gotten over.. the crowd was into him at that time..not at a huge level but they ahd the spark in the fan's attention and could have fanned the flames by putting him in there.. face it even if you dont like him it would have done better that Show's reign.

[Guest converge241]

to get back on topic, maybe Russo wanted to hire the Hamburger Helper guy to play Mark Henry and Mae Young's kid..

 

 

in all seriousness i bet they have no idea what the hell is going on there themselves.. they are just living moment to moment now in panic mode

[Guest The Vanilla Midget]

To you he's not.

 

..and to all the people that bitch about Test getting pushes, he had nowhere near the monster-god push Angle got right after he came into the WWF. But that's allright. Angle=Good. Anyone else=bad. I think I see now how this 'logic' works.

 

It must be nice to be a parrot.

Tell me, how do you type with clawss?

 

-Shiro

fucking awesome post. hypocricy rules eh angleplex???

 

and even if russo had stayed, nothing major would have changed. not while triple h is looking to become a mcmahon by marriage.

[Guest Prince Paul]

I do agree that Test should have been given the belt at Survivor Series 99 instead of Show. Test may have gotten over at that point. But they'd have to really re work his character to get him heat like that again. And is it worth it,when they're so many other guys who could be over, with 1/10 the push Test would need? I think not.

 

And let's not even compare Test to Angle. Angle got a god push, and got over, but can also wrestle, promo and everything else. Angle is good. He's an olympic gold medalist ya know.

[Guest Nezbyte]

If Test got that push that Angle was given, i bet we'd have a room full of Testes ... i mean, Test fans.

 

What was this topic about? I forgot...

[Guest converge241]

"i bet we'd have a room full of Testes "

 

please you are getting Patterson all excited..

 

 

and i agree that in the Test - Angle comparisons/debate that yes Angle has a lot of the extra assets that help to get over (more charisma/ability).

[Guest Angle-plex]

Angle was semi-over when he was pushed. Test was over ONCE in 99, and Triple H put an end to that quickly. Now they just keep pushing Test over and over thinking he'll get over again. I really don't think I would mind him much if he wasn't always pushed down my throat.

 

Brock Lesnar is getting a Test push. He is not over and sucks in the ring of what I've seen so far. I think Lesnar might be the next Test. The only thing that makes him better than Test is Heyman in his corner.

[Guest bravesfan]

Angle was pushed beyond belief, because his gimmick entering the WWE was AWESOME. It had to draw heat...I mean, he was the obnoxious, self-absorbed Gold Medalist braggart . Everyone hates that type of guy/girl. The mic work and superb mat skills pushed that idea through the roof...

 

What does Test have in terms of a gimmick? How about air time? A 5-minute match every week on Velocity with Funaki? How in the blue hell is HE going to get heat with the fans? Right now, with absolutely no real TV time, no steady gimmick or steady push---- he will go nowhere. That's a shame.

 

Hopefully joining Team Canada (Storm, Christian and 2 KOTR Semi-Final Screwees: Jericho and Test) will give him an immense push into main-event status.

[Guest Angle-plex]

No steady push? His problem is they push him to much! Everone is sick of Test.

 

Other Test Problems: No Charisma, mic skills, or talent.

[Guest TheMikeSC]

VR: So we'll elevate Benoit, RVD, and Booker....

 

HHH ::Whispering in Vince's ear:: This guy just isn't going to help the writing team. Send him home. >>>

 

 

Umm, just to remind you---Russo was not going to give Benoit the World Title in WCW at any point.

 

And Russo's ability to create stars is vastly overrated.

 

His ideas centered around him winning titles and phallic matches.

-=Mike

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

No steady push? His problem is they push him to much! Everone is sick of Test.

 

Other Test Problems: No Charisma, mic skills, or talent.

*cracks knuckles*

 

Like Dames said, test WAS OVER. Even at WM17 against Eddy.

 

Charisma isn't just mic skills. It's mannerisms, and also how a person looks. Test does have "the look". If Angle is indeed getting a serious heel push, we'll see about his mic skills. He's -great- at the Dorky Heel, but can he work a serious heel without insulting home sports teams? Can he work a decent face character? Angle is no 'god of the mic'. He's good, yes, but no god.

 

Talent is in the eyes of the beholder. Compared to guys like Godfather, Bull Buchanan, Albert, Rikishi..Test is light years ahead. Compared to guys like Angle, of course he'd look like he has no talent! No, Angle was not semi-over when he started getting a push. He was getting booed out of the building at his debut match..then got shot into an undefeated streak, and straight into Euro and IC title reigns, and feuds with Benoit/Jericho. Kurt got the god-push of all god-pushes.

 

Talking about Test's mini-pushes is hypocracy at it's finest. Lots of people get mini pushes. Not just test. But, Shiro, you say! HE'S SHANE McMAHON'S FRIEND! You can't be FRIENDS with anyone backstage! OH DEAR GOD! CALL 1WRESTLING! CALL411! Yeah. He's friends with Shane. I bet a few guys are friends with Shane. You didn't see the Mean Street Posse getting Tag Titles, did you? Yeah, Test has had a few title reigns.

 

2 Harcore, 1 WWF Tag, 1 Euro, 1 IC, 1 WCW Tag.

 

I'm sure that's nothing compared to Angle's many title reigns, including multiple World, IC, and Euro. (Not to mention holding both Euro and IC AT THE SAME TIME.)

 

We get the fact Anglesault hates Test. Can you stop repeating everything he says?

 

*brawck* Test sucks! Test has no talent! *brawck*

 

It's mass-stupidity. I'm convinced of that. You can be an Angle Mark without hating everybody else.

 

Let's get over it now, and back to intelligent discussion.

 

Now if you can't discuss intelligently, there's a No Holds Barred folder. GO!

 

-Shiro

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

This warrents one word...

 

Well, I'll be... DAMNED!

 

[/Faarooq Mode]

[Guest Human Fly]

Angle is no 'god of the mic'. He's good, yes, but no god.

 

He's in the top two or three in the company though, maybe the best. Who would you consider "gods of the mic"?

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Test COULD have been pushed, but his one compelling storyline is a constant "Remember me?" contestant. Like Jericho turning into Steph's lotion girl, Test's relatioship with the McMahons is always shoved into One Night Only developments that are never mentioned again.

 

During a HHH face tease, Test brought down the house pretty good calling the cops on Hunter ("Life's a bitch, and so's your wife!"), and the main event gave Test heat and HHH even got a face pop posing for the crowd with Steph. Of course, this was just a complete cocktease for HHH as he went back to heelish ways in less than a month. It's scary to imagine how much a full official face turn at this point would have drew.

[Guest William E]

vr: okay how about we go with the world wild life fund being created by Eric

 

Bischoff to steal the wwf name and we can start the panda invasion.

 

vm: HHH coud you show Mr. Russo the door

[Guest Prince Paul]

No steady push? His problem is they push him to much! Everone is sick of Test.

 

Other Test Problems: No Charisma, mic skills, or talent.

*cracks knuckles*

 

Like Dames said, test WAS OVER. Even at WM17 against Eddy.

 

Test over at WM 17?? Was he really?? I can remember there being some heat for that match but not too much. That's the match where he got his foot stuck in the ropes.

 

Didn't he win that Euro title by squashing Regal in like 1 minute? Sure, make Regal look like a jobber for the WWE's monthly Test push. If they want to seriously think of a storyline (long term-HA!) for him, that's fine but enough with this "throw it at the wall to see what sticks" shit.