Scott Keith thinks Hardy may win the title Monday

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

Actually, I had an idea about the ending of the Ladder Match for 'Taker to keep the belt...

 

Okay, the ladder is set up, and there's a table set up on the outside from earlier when 'Taker planned to give Jeff the Last Ride over the top rope to the outside, and through the table, but Jeff reversed it (maybe with Matt's interference). 'Taker is down in the ring, and Jeff sets up the ladder under the Undisputed Title and begins climbing*. Jeff begins unbuttoning the title, but 'Taker pops up and goes under Hardy, grabbing him for a powerbomb, but Jeff unbuttons the Undisputed Title, and prepares to take it off the ring that's holding it, BUT...he reaches for it, and it falls out of his reach, and 'Taker gives him a Last Ride over the top through the table. 'Taker then picks up the belt, and is declared the winner.

 

Not only would it put Hardy over as a legitimate threat since 'Taker's win could be considered a fluke, but it keeps the belt on 'Taker for Angle to beat him for it.

 

* = Of course, he'd be climbing up the side closest to the table outside.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

I've always thought that would be a great ladder match ending, both guys go for the belt and pull it down, falling off, ko'd for a bit then the heel just raise the belt with one hand and wins.

 

I think it's important that angle makes taker tap out rather than win it off hardy. Hardyz fluke win would wake people up, but it's better for kurt to kick some ass.

[Guest candie45]

I think that IF Jeff is to win on Monday they should use the last ride way. Taker lifts him up for the powerbomb, and as he pushes Jeff up, he grabs the title. That way Taker looks strong with the dominating up to the last ride, and Jeff, well, he would have the Undisputed title. Actually, I want Angle to win it this week, so as long as the title gets to him I am fine with it.

 

Oh, and it's not a matter of who gets the title first, it's about how meaningful and impressive the title run is. The WWE bookers are (hopefully) not stupid enough to have Jeff be on top of the company up until Vengeance, so of course Jeff's win if it happens will be short-lived.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Scott's accuracy in predicting outcomes isn't exactly stellar.

[Guest Choken One]

I think we're all getting too excited about this match...It likely isn't even the Main event but just the 10:00 match. I know you all want Undertaker to drop the title but use your heads here...It would totally cheapen the belt if a Tag-Team wrestler takes the title from the World Champion without any HUGE push. It would be like Brian Knobbs taking the title from Hogan in 1991 or Road Dog taking the title from Undertaker in 1998.

 

Also, hot shotting the title to Angle is senseless unless you're planning on the Final Face turn of the Undertaker (Which I would not mind, the fans clearly want to cheer him again) but then what about Brock-Summerslam stip? It's obvious Rock is in line for the title and It's the best thing WWE can do with the title...put it on the Biggest Star in it's business and Scrap the Brock title shot with McMahon offering Heyman total control of "Raw" in exchange for Brock to Waive the title shot to Kurt Angle when Angle makes Rock tap twice.

 

This would be the best thing...We'd get a **** World Title Match with the best Wrestler and the best entertainer in the business today. Brock-'Taker can go down and Taker can give Brock a huge rub by doing the job. Jericho-RVD gets rekindled and they have another ***3/4 match. Eddy-Edge goes down. Of course for all this...it requries that the split ends....

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

I want Taker to keep the belt. The title needs some stability, and he is doing a good job as champ.

[Guest Downhome]

...but then what about Brock-Summerslam stip?

Easy, have Kurt Angle win the gold on SD and have Kurt Angle Vs. Brock Lesnar in the main event (or co-main event, depending on what else they have planned) at Summerslam. It could be the perfect stage, and perfect opponent, to finally allow Brock Lesnar to show what he is REALLY made of.

[Guest Choken One]

That would be Suicide. Summer Slam is the second biggest show of the year for WWE and having your World Title match star two heels is stupid...Angle's gold as A heel and Brock can't get over. It's simple...Angle/Rock is about the only sensible Main Event unless they go with the 6PAC Match with 'Taker, Rock, Brock, RVD, Eddy and Beniot. With Hogan-Jericho and Edge-Storm. Booker-Nash.

[Guest Downhome]

That would be Suicide. Summer Slam is the second biggest show of the year for WWE and having your World Title match star two heels is stupid...Angle's gold as A heel and Brock can't get over. It's simple...Angle/Rock is about the only sensible Main Event unless they go with the 6PAC Match with 'Taker, Rock, Brock, RVD, Eddy and Beniot. With Hogan-Jericho and Edge-Storm. Booker-Nash.

I'm in the mind set when I say THAT match that they are going to go through with the Kurt Angle "tweener" angle, which would put him in the face posistion against Brock Lesnar. It could work if they actually *gasp*, built up for the math properally, and also had a solid card built around them. More than likely we'll see Vince Vs. Hogan on the show, so that is a "money match" in itself.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

Jeff winning the title wouldn't be so bad. Whether you want to believe it or not, he is one of the more over faces the WWE has.

Yea, much as I dislike him and don't support him as a transitional champion, I DO remember him getting a huge pop at his upset victory over Trips last year for the IC title.

 

But why do so many people think this is going to happen? What I think will going to happen is that 'Taker will retain both against Hardy and Angle, and even go on to barely retain in a Rock/'Taker/HHH three-way or a 'Taker/Angle rematch (with Rock interference) at Vengeance. This sets up a possible 'Taker/Lesnar/Rock three-way at SummerSlam where Rock can take the title (come on, you all know he would if he had the shot, like last SummerSlam) and Lesnar can lose without looking like a total fool for being beat in a "straight one-on-one match".

[Guest TheSmarkzone]

But I thought there were only "shades of gray", Vince...

 

Yeah, right.

 

The WWE tries to avoid heel vs. heel matches as much as possible. Just look at the 2000 King of the Ring. They ruined a tournament that had loads of potential just to make sure that there were no good guy vs. good guy or bad guy vs. bad guy matches.

[Guest -Cutthroat-]

Hardy WILL win the title this Monday, then he'll lose it to some WcW guy...

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

Jeff fucking Hardy better not win that belt. If Angle wins it, it should be from Taker, not Hardy.

Uh...agreed, If Mean Mark drops the gold to Jeff, then I'll kill Vince personally

 

This has been the Taker Mark

 

I hate you Jeff Hardy...

[Guest Prince Paul]

Jeff fucking Hardy better not win that belt.  If Angle wins it, it should be from Taker, not Hardy.

Uh...agreed, If Mean Mark drops the gold to Jeff, then I'll kill Vince personally

 

This has been the Taker Mark™

 

I hate you Jeff Hardy...

Glad to see someone with some sense. I'm not huger Taker fan, (used to be, still don't hate him as much as many smarks do) but Taker is good for the WWE title, as far as I can see. He's bringing it some stabiluty, he has some feuds going. Keep the damn belt on the man til SS when he can job it to RVD. Ya know, that would actually make sense!!!

 

READ THIS VINCE (yeah right):PUT THE FUCKING BELT ON RVD WHEN HE BEATS TAKER AT SS!

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

Jeff fucking Hardy better not win that belt.  If Angle wins it, it should be from Taker, not Hardy.

Uh...agreed, If Mean Mark drops the gold to Jeff, then I'll kill Vince personally

 

This has been the Taker Mark™

 

I hate you Jeff Hardy...

Glad to see someone with some sense. I'm not huger Taker fan, (used to be, still don't hate him as much as many smarks do) but Taker is good for the WWE title, as far as I can see. He's bringing it some stabiluty, he has some feuds going. Keep the damn belt on the man til SS when he can job it to RVD. Ya know, that would actually make sense!!!

 

READ THIS VINCE (yeah right):PUT THE FUCKING BELT ON RVD WHEN HE BEATS TAKER AT SS!

PUT THAT MAN ON THE WRITING TEAM!

 

This has been the Taker Mark

[Guest The Tino Standard]

A couple of things...

 

You don't win a ladder match by being the guy on the ground with the belt. When you pull the belt off the ring in the air, you win. So that idea of Jeff Hardy climbing up to grab the belt, but having Taker getting it back before Hardy touches the ground wouldn't work.

 

And personally, I think if it all leads to an Angle-Brock main event at SummerSlam, the smarks should be dancing in the streets. That would have all the makings of one of the best technical championship matches ever.

 

I don't think it would have to be a heel-heel match either. Brock yelling "Shut up, Paul!" and looking really annoyed with Heyman on Monday would seem to foreshadow him eventually kicking Paul E. to the curb. I think the marks would definitely love Lesnar if he turned on Heyman.

 

Face Brock vs. Heel Angle for the Undisputed Title at SummerSlam. I'm down with that.

[Guest Prince Paul]

A couple of things...

 

You don't win a ladder match by being the guy on the ground with the belt. When you pull the belt off the ring in the air, you win. So that idea of Jeff Hardy climbing up to grab the belt, but having Taker getting it back before Hardy touches the ground wouldn't work.

 

And personally, I think if it all leads to an Angle-Brock main event at SummerSlam, the smarks should be dancing in the streets. That would have all the makings of one of the best technical championship matches ever.

 

I don't think it would have to be a heel-heel match either. Brock yelling "Shut up, Paul!" and looking really annoyed with Heyman on Monday would seem to foreshadow him eventually kicking Paul E. to the curb. I think the marks would definitely love Lesnar if he turned on Heyman.

 

Face Brock vs. Heel Angle for the Undisputed Title at SummerSlam. I'm down with that.

I could be down with that as well. Surely if they let Lesnar and Angle wrestle their own style, it would be classic.

 

But RVD/Taker just makes more sense. They have history together. They have unfisnished business. RVD is over and Brock is not. You know, those bunch of little things that add up to BIG things in the long run.