Stephen Joseph

Sure. Deal with your unyielding, losing, in vain effort to take the drug problem vis a vis supply side solutions.

Ohhh and another thought Who gave the inmates Quran's? hmm....

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/03/guantanamo.quran/index.html (CNN) -- A U.S. military investigation into the mishandling of the Muslim holy book at the Guantanamo Bay prison for suspected terrorists has determined that detainees -- not U.S. soldiers -- attempted to flush the Quran down the toilet there. However, the report did find four confirmed incidents in which U.S. personnel at the base mishandled the Quran, including guards kicking a detainee's Quran; a guard's urine "splashed" a detainee and his holy book after coming through an air vent; and guards got in a water balloon fight that resulted in two detainees' Qurans getting wet. In a fifth confirmed incident, it could not be determined whether a guard or a detainee wrote a two-word obscenity in a detainee's Quran. The findings of the report, issued by Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, commander of the detention center in Cuba, were released late Friday. They found no evidence to support allegations that U.S. soldiers attempted to flush the Muslim holy book down the toilet. ----- I saw on the Wash Post today that even Amnesty is now having to backtrack their claims, because they don't have any proof, just supposition and speculation (like their secret prison claim too). I wish I had the link to the article, but I don't. It was there though, read it on my morning commute. And the Post loves Bush

Ewww... I mean, eww. To be compared to an anime-fanboy with pocketed facial hair and a likely severe b.o. is just...well nothing unusual around here.

The key takeaway from the article is their noting of the identical twins. Works, doesn't it?

that website, and alot of the stuff on fuselage, is designed to yield misinformation, fyi. The nanotech theory isnt out of place at all. Go read Chrichton's "Prey"

hehehe

You're on the right track Spicy. Now, consider infant nanotechnology. It learns by what it interacts with. What kind of mind can concieve of more ideas...a child, or an adult. That is why Walt is important. Just as Alex was. Imagination (why do you think that Walt was enthralled by a comic book.

your expectations are out of bounds with reality, if 1 out of 1000 soldiers are misbehaving, then we're doing pretty good!

The media, though not because its liberal, is to blame for why we think we're failing. Succesess don't make for ratings for newsshows. Failures do, sensationalism. They're going to make a big deal out of 2, maybe 3 guards at Gitmo who were sleazebags, when the rest of the soldliers there (let's say 500, I dont know). You tell me how you can control for the behavior of every single person in a division, unit, company, country, church, mosque etc... Your expectations are unreasonable, and you're deluded into thinking and believing that its so very bad, when, in fact, its not as bad as it seems. It's like thinking that something is closer than it appears in your rear view mirror. You want to much. Stop buying into the media showing all the imperfection, and none of the success.

No, they're not. Maybe if the insurgents would quit it with the suicide bombings, you'd actually see that, but you're too blinded by what YOU want to believe. And remember, I'm no Bush supporter. But for you to say a Iraq without Saddam is better than an Iraq with Saddam, you're smoking more weed than I do in a week. I mean, do you really think that they're blowing shit up because they don't like the US? No. They're blowing shit up because they're upset that THEY lost power. Boo hoo hoo, cry me a river with the destruction of a predatory government,.

I'm thinking a magnetic anomaly caused by a large hunk of metal (iron ore) would do the trick. Remember Occam's Razor. That's why Crichton's "Prey" book seems to make a heck of alot of sense. One concept covers nearly everything that's weird about the island.

Check out the global grid. Crackpot theory yes, but combine it with some elements of the Philadelphia Experiment and a mining colony on alot of metal, and we have ourselves a place that could get messed up by nuclear testing.

It seems pretty obvious that there was some mining activity here. Thats why compasses don't work (well, near large metal deposits). Survivors are still alive, or descendants, or both. So something of that sort is down there, and probably much more. Limbo. But not in the death sense. In the time-sense.

Again, I want to reiterate that the NUMBERS are MUCH more important than we even realize.

maybe not as a character, but perhaps as a plot device? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> EVERYTHING in the show is based on science or plausible pseudo-science (i.e. science that could be true in 5-10 years). That is from the producers. So I doubt Aaron will be advanced in age by artificial means Nothing says you can't have the show skip years though.

Hmm. Exodus is the second book of the old Testament. It is where Moses and Aaron lead the Isrealities away from their slavers and into the promised land. http://biblia.com/bible/exodus2.htm. Genesis is both the creation of the world and the creation of man and the twelve tribes. http://biblia.com/bible/genesis2.htm These are the 12 children of Jacob-Israel: (35:22-26): - By Leah: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issacar, Zebulon. - By Rachel: Benjamin and Joseph. - By Bilhah, the slave of Rachel: Dan, Nephtali. - By Zilpah the slave of Leah: Gad, Asher. But from Num.1, instead of Joseph, appear his two children, Ephraim and Manases... and Levi does not figure, because the Tribe of Levi were all priests, to the service of all the other Tribes. I make this note because if you replace Joseph with the two children and include Levi, then you have 13. And there are 13 "Lost-A-Ways"

Hehe. Perhaps I have a touch of what Locke has. By the way, my gf pointed this out. Anyone notice Jack's nose during the last 20 minutes. It was red. (Infection?). You're right about the air vent thing. It obviously is a shaft of some sort, and we know it goes underground. Mines typically have such vents that come up. There could easily be air pores to let the air in with the hatch still being sealed to prevent entry. Oh, if you only knew what was down that way (clank, clank, clank).

1) Ignore the airline site...its meant to make you not see other things. 2) There is a very simple explanation as to why Locke can walk 3) The hatch is an air vent, basically. 4) The others are not people who were dead, or aliens...etc. Remember, everything in the show is based on either science or pseudo-science (like MacGyver or something). The island is also not Purgatory (at least in the biblical sense, however, in the quantum sense, it is indeed.

Duh. I noticed that right off the bat, and jumped out of my chair during the season finale when we saw the black smoke. It is one and the same. Nice to see someone else see something

its the journey of discovery, not the destination.

Instead of just criticizing, tell me why what I said doesn't make sense. I'm vague for a reason, so that other people can THINK. I've been dead on the entire season about Locke, about the numbers, and about the others.

Update on the allegiances -FAITH- Locke: Obvious. Sun: She commented about fate. Rose: Believes her husband is still alive. Walt: Knows he has special abilities. Trained with Locke. Hurley: Has a certain faith in the numbers and their damage. But his faith-ness isn't optimistic like Locke's. -SCIENCE- Jack: Obvious. Kate: Said she has Locke's back. Claire: Told Sun there's no such thing as fate. Charlie: Locke helped him with his addiction but he has ties to Claire. -BALANCE- Sayid: See above. Shannon: Blames Locke for Boone's death but also holds on to Boone's memory. -UNDECIDED- The Tail Survivors Michael: Doesn't trust Locke fully but did see Locke save Walt from a polar bear. Jin: Loves Sun, but hasn't really stated his feelings. ROUSSEAU Sawyer is a special case. He was tortured by both Jack & Sayid, but he never showed a loyalty to Locke either. His encounter with the Boar has exposed a faith portion of his character. But his propensity is to take his own side. I do feel that Sawyer's redemption is a major plot point of the entire series. Hence the song. There are two poles in the show. Foils. Hurley and Sawyer. It is no coincidence that every other character revolves around these two.

SJ, any ideas you have, I'd love to read. I like your analyses. --Thanks 4-8-15-16-23-42 --The numbers I believe, are the second most important puzzle to unlocking what's going on. --They are geographic coordinates. One set of lat/long puts you over the likely area where the plane crashed. (Not the Marshall Islands, but nearer to French Polynesia actually). Another set is in Tunisia, next to Nigeria (remember the plane?) The rest well, let's just say theres only 1 set of coordiantes not yet explained. --The survivors were seated in those rows on the plane. --There is much more to them than meets the naked eye. Who/what does everyone think the Others are? --The others were after Walt, not Aaron. Remember that Walt is special. And I mean that, because he IS. My initial reaction was that the people on the boat were part of the Others, because Danielle said they took Alex, and there Alex was. --That was Alex But now I'm remembering the distress call: "It killed them. It killed them all." --Alex was already abducted by the Others. I'm wondering if Danielle saw the sentry pull her team into the ground. Maybe the Others cured the team of the sickness from the Black Rock in exchange for the team doing the Others' dirty work. --Doubtful. The Others were already there. The Others...Do you remember the black cloud that preceded the security system? Bingo. Remember, if the Island gives to you, you must give to the Island. Kidnapping Alex was one of their first jobs. Walt is the next recruit of age. Maybe when Aaron is older, they'll come for him. --There is reason why they might like children, but their focus was Walt for his abilities. More likely, his imagination. Now for the monster and the hatch. We know it's mechanical. We know it's a security system. But who/what is it protecting...the Others or the Island? --Sounded like a chain and a winch didn't? And it pops out from anywhere on the island. Again, I am going back to the black cloud that preceded the security system. THAT is the security system. --The dynamite blew up, and what happend. A black cloud out from another whole that then went away. Locke knows. And did it want Locke specifically? --Locke is now a threat. When Kate threw in the dynamite, I thought that was smoke from the explosion being sucked in by the sentry. Or did I miss something? My theory is that the sentry has some control center under the Island and that the hatch leads to it. --The hatch does not lead to any control center. Or rather...THAT hatch. --Question: Why is there a big cable coming from the Ocean to Danielle's hut. --Question: Why are there two other islands on Danielle's map? --Just what is the black cloud? Hint: It's intelligent by design. --That was NOT the same blip on the radar screen. BTW, wtf are hillbillies doing there, unless they came in FROM ANOTHER SOURCE. --How does a plane have its tail ripped off around 40K ft in the air, then lose its nose, and not lead to nothing but a greasy spot? Simple, it did not fall 40K feet. --Which camp are you in, Locke's (Faith), Reason(Jack) or none (Sayid). Btw, you can split the groups up very easily between the camps. --Our Raft friends are not dead. --Compasses don't work. There's a reason. Too much magnetic interference.

We *KNOW* what the hatch is. Pandora's box. Ignorance is bliss. Knowledge is sin. C'mon, the forbidden fruit. The castaways can no longer delude themselves into ignorance that they're just "lost on an island" For those of you who were disappointed, man I have no idea what show you saw. That was done to PERFECTION. Minor spoiler: C'mon do you really think that the OTHERS were that blip? That blip was something else...the OTHERS already knew where they were. Hi Alex. Thanks for throwing the Molotov. So, what happens when the sentry grabs you. Who/what was the sentry grabbing when the lostaways first saw it. (and as for the black smoke, nice swarm, but of what....hehehe...very cool)