WrestlingDeacon

For a random draw it's odd that the two John Wayne and two Humphrey Bogart movies I nominated go against each other. And, Matt, you've been voting for the movie you like better, not what you think is better. That was the whole point of this tournament when compared to the Tarantino love fest the other one turned into. 2001: A Space Odyssey The African Queen Bride Of Frankenstein The Third Man Raging Bull Once Upon A Time in America Rear Window Rocky Dr. Strangelove Duck Soup Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid Scarface Das Boot The Killer Memento Goodfellas Gone With The Wind American Beauty The Searchers To Kill A Mockingbird LA Confidential Leon It's a Wonderful Life Citizen Kane An American in Paris The Shawshank Redemption A Face in the Crowd The Manchurian Candidate Cool Hand Luke The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence Chinatown The Godfather Part II

I amazed at the Kill Bill love. It's like my friend Shawn. The last movie he saw is the greatest movie of all time. If you just sit there and analyze, Pulp Fiction is clearly the better movie. Then again, I suppose this is favorite movie, so it's kind of a moot argument. Still, I prefer Pulp Fiction and vote for it.

No, what I'm saying although it might not have been expressed clearly is that there is a difference between "favorite" and "good." What I read from your previous post is that you were equating the word "favorite" with "opinion" and I wanted you to get away from that thinking. Also, history is not the same as those qualifications for what makes a good movie. You also can't let yourself fall into the trap of what the conventional answer has been. In my personal "opinion" if you can't see why Citizen Kane is a good movie, then this might not be the poll for you. I can easily tell you why it's a great movie and it would be nigh impossible for you to disagree with those facts. You can point out flaws in the film, you can tell why you don't like the movie, or why you think there are elements of a movie like Fight Club that are so well done that it puts it above Kane for you, but you can't argue with fundamental elements of the film, such as the cinematography and acting, as not being technically 'good.' The main thing I'm saying here is that you can recognize that something is good without necessarily liking it. And saying you don't like something is not saying that it's not good. What I hope this poll does more than anything is promote some intelligent discussion. If you need it simplified, I guess they way I see what Man of a 1004 Modes wants is favorite movies that also qualify as being great movies from a filmmaking standpoint.

3. Adaption 8. Back To The Future 10. Beverly Hills Cop 17. Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood 19. Empire Strikes Back 21. Fast Times at Ridgemont High 22. Fight Club 30. Hard boiled 31. Heat 37. Life Is Beautiful 38. LOTR: Return of the king 40. Menace II Society 41. Midnight Express 42. Monster 43. Monty Python and the Holy Grail 46. Once Upon A Time in China 62. The Americanization of Emily (I'll be a sport and axe one of my own)

Fuck opinion. Any knowledgable film scholar can look at a movie objectionably and tell you whether it's "good" or not. Even if you don't like something, you can still recognize it's merits. Likewise, you can look at something you love and see it's many flaws. The concept as I understand it, is not to go for favorites, but those films that we can clearly see are "all time classics" based on their overall quality and influence on the media.

Some people don't seem to be getting the idea here: Citizen Kane Touch of Evil The Third Man The Searchers Wait Until Dark The Americanization of Emily Cool Hand Luke Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid The Manchurian Candidate The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence Chinatown A Face in the Crowd Grand Illusion An American in Paris Breakfast at Tiffany's She Wore a Yellow Ribbon Vertigo The Quiet Man Night of the Hunter Greed Bride of Frankentstein Duck Soup Key Largo The African Queen

Once again, any help you guys can give would be great and will be credited to you. Thanks again. 1) "Hey man, your account of the trailer for The preacher's Wife reminded me of an awesome trailer I saw in the theaters a few years back. I can't remember what the movie was, but the trailer featured a man and a woman going to see this movie. When they leave they talk about the movie and walk around the town (maybe NYC). Soon it's 7 am and they are both late for work. This really caught my attention and made me want to see the movie, if for no other reason than the trailer being so original to me. Any help with which movie? Magnolia, maybe?" 2) "Next I was hoping that you could help me identify this film: Late 70's, maybe even up to 1982 it ran on TV on something similar to the ABC Afterschool Specials. Plot line is a teenage boy hassles a younger girl (about 10) in the schoolyard. She ends up dead (maybe just hurt badly because of the timeslot). His mother seals up a room in the house and hides him behind the fake wall so the cops can't find him. I recall food being passed through a false air vent in the wall." 3) "I saw a movie when I was about 13 on TV (It was probably made in the mid nineties) Set in the near future, where the U.S was modelled on 1950's life, people were expected to be average, and wore neural blockers which reduced their intelligence... A teenage boy couldn't be controlled and was drafted into the underground organisation that actually regulated everyday life.....What is this movie??? I really enjoyed it." 4) "I've been trying to figure out a movie from my childhood for quite some time now. If i remeber correctly it came out during the 80's some time. I remember some the begining and the ending. i know it starts off in the real world and this boy somehow get transported to another world and i think it has something to do with an apple but I could be wrong. I tihnk a black horse is involved too. by the end of the movie he faces this king and defeats him somehow.....the king turns into stone and crumbles. There is also something about how his heart was stone too."

I don't know yours No Cal off the top of my head. I can maybe look some stuff up later. A big thanks to Edwin on figuring out the trailer. My friend Shawn figured out the third one too.

I know it's not Pleasantville and don't think it's 1984. That and the fantasy one with the king sound vaguely like a hundred different movies and that's what's giving me so much trouble trying to nail them down. Thanks for the help and suggestions so far.

Back to the Future Reservoir Dogs

Notice that no one is using the point scale. I've said that Depp is the greatest living American actor under the age of 50 several times. I would probably give him a 28/30 in your criteria. Deducting two points for variety. While he has played a wide variety of parts, most can be tossed under the 'weird' category and he always comes off the same, but that's key into establishing a solid screen persona that people like and relate too. When was the last time Jack Nicholson or Paul Newman really broke from star text?

I like Rio Bravo and it's a good movie, but it doesn't represent one of Wayne's best performances. If you do watch it and like it, check out El Dorado, but I would skip Rio Lobo.

and outside of his brothers, he used to tag with PEPPER GOMEZ

I think people are more familiar with the Wayne stereotype and his ultra-conservative politics than his talents as an actor. Also the films that most wind up on t.v. of his are usually the ones that featured his worst performances. I'm a huge fan of Wayne, but there's maybe six or seven movies that I can point to that demonstrates how great of an actor he truly was. First you have to realize that John Wayne was not a real person, it was a character created and honed by Marion Morrison. Morrison, while a good actor, was a lazy one and would fall back into simply doing the Wayne character when not pushed by a top director like Howard Hawks or John Ford. Wayne's best movies are: The Searchers Red River The Quiet Man The Shootist The Sands of Iwo Jima She Wore a Yellow Ribbon

Just checking in and it's awesome that I've finally won that long sought after championship. Too bad Frost didn't have a better postseason that year. I've got to be a shoo-in for the hall of fame.

The Simpsons Family Guy Married With Children Cheers The Sopranos MST3K Curb Your Enthusiasm Quantum Leap

You miss a lot of good stuff from 1984. Starman, Places in the Heart, A Passage to India, The Karate Kid, The Natural, Beverly Hills Cop, Splash, Romancing the Stone, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Footloose and fucking GHOSTBUSTERS!!!

That was Tom Berenger. If you liked that you might also want to check out Harts of the West. I know I'm getting in on this late, but of those films not mentioned I would recommend Ride the High Country.

Pulp Fiction Scarface Kill Bill Vol. 1 Reservoir Dogs Rocky The Shawshank Redemption Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back The Usual Suspects

Back to the Future American History X Mallrats Reservoir Dogs Goodfellas North by Northwest Raging Bull Blazing Saddles Kill Bill Vol. 1 Citizen Kane Scarface Raiders of the Lost Ark Pulp Fiction Rocky Psycho (1960) The Usual Suspects

Sting winning the TV title off of Mike Rotundo on a WCW Saturday Night in March of '89. With Dusty Rhodes vs. the Road Warriors at Starrcade '88. With Flair vs. Terry Funk and the Great Muta in an electrified cage at the first Halloween Havoc.

Ricky Steamboat Wins: 1) Chi-Town Rumble: Steamboat beat Ric Flair for the NWA World Title. Cemented Steamboat as a main eventer and true legend while making Flair look vulnerable and giving him some juice as the pissed off former champ. 2) Wrestlemania III: Steamboat pins Savage in what many say is one of the greatest matches of all time. It not only capped that well built feud, but ended the long running George Steele vs. Savage feud and Steele was Steamboat's second at ringside. 3) Clash of the Champions VI: Steamboat retains the title over Flair in two out of three falls. This established that Steamboat wasn't a lame duck champion and a flash in the pan simply to put Flair over as someone like Ronnie Garvin was. Losses: 1) Wrestlemania IV: Steamboat said that this was writing on the wall for him. He goes out in the first round of the title tourney to an aging midcarder when a win would have setup a rematch with Savage from the year before. Ricky knew he was done in the WWF and this made him jump to the WCW and start the mega-hot fued and singles push against Flair. 2) Wrestlewar '89: Steamboat might have beat Flair twice, but Slick Ric wins the decisive third match and immediately turns face to feud with Terry Funk, sending Steamboat sliding back down the roster. 3)6/2/87 in Buffalo: Steamboat loses the IC title to the Honky Tonk Man at a house show. McMahon really didn't like Steamboat's no nonsense style and no flash character. He was trying to send him a message by jobbing him out to the gimmicky and jokey HTM. Really damaged Steamboat as a top wrestler after he was poised to be second top face behind Hogan after Wrestlemania III. Defining moment: Being Dustin Rhodes' surpise partner against Arn Anderson and Larry Zybysko when he made his return to the WCW in '94.

Randy Savage: 1) Wrestlemania IV: Beat Ted Dibiase in the finals of the title tournament . It made him a solid main eventer and sewed the seed for the eventual Hogan feud with him trying to steal the spotlight from the new champ. 2) Wrestlemania VIII: Reclaimed the World Title from Ric Flair. Re-established Savage as a top guy after a brief retirement. 3) World War III '95: In the event's debut, Savage outlasted 59 other men to claim the vacant WCW World Title and reignite his feud with Ric Flair heading into Starrcade. Losses: 1) Wrestlemania VII: Savage drops six hundred elbows on the Warrior and he still kicks out and scores the wins. Savage dragged Warrior to his best match ever. The post match face turn and Savage reuniting with Liz paid off a storyline that had been going for over five years. 2) The Main Event in 1988: Savage was booked to take the IC title back from the Honky Tonk Man, but HTM balked. Savage won by count out, but didn't get the title back. To appease him, McMahon booked him to win the Wrestlemania IV tourney when Dibiase had been his original choice. Tie-3) Wrestlemania V: Savage once again proves the miracle worker by dragging a great match out of Hogan. There long running feud sees Hogan going over and Randy slides back down the ladder to become "the king" and feud with Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Tie-3) Wrestlemania III: Savage loses the IC title to Ricky Steamboat in what is considered one of the greatest matches ever. Steamboat would drop the title shortly thereafter to the Honky Tonk Man and that would lead to Savage's face turn. Defining Moment: Holding the ropes open for Liz at Wrestlemania VII

I just want to see who Tarantino reaches back into the seventies and revives next. I'll say David Soul. Or he should go out on a limb and put Robert Blake in a movie. How about Louis Gossett, Jr.?

Defintely Frost and Thugg. Then we would surprise everyone and wrestle like the Rockers.