HVilleThugg

I think Z is the screener now...although, we don't actually screen anything...but people PM him and he sets them up in the JL. He could have a "theswf.net" address...I already have one. He'd just have to setup his email client to accept email to that address. We can walk him through that if he needs it when the time comes. Let me ask this: Outcast and I have been talking over the last few days of the website. I'm not going to reveal whose point is whose, but...Do we like the current layout and navigation on the site now, or do we think we should do something different, and if so, why? Da "this is very productive" H

Thanks Mark...now let me comment on what you've said. I think we should break this functionality out into phases. Some of it is rather complicated, and could take months to implement. I'd like to take some of that and make it phase 1 development, and then take the rest and roll it into a second phase. That way, we can roll out the new design and layout in a month or so, and then add the more complex functionality later. So, here's what I think about each point you made... Phase 1. Definitely...this is where the design of the layout comes into play. Pre-Phase 1. As soon as I can find my damn database drivers, I'm going to set up a quick form for a person to enter HTML and text for the card to update the website. You would have to enter standard HTML as you would like it to look, complete with <p> tags for paragraphs and the like. This is merely so that the updates aren't limited to me and Atlas and Johnny, and it's still easier than going into the HTML and finding the right place to edit, and all the jazz. To facilitate this, the card will be on a separate page now, linked from the homepage through a banner for the show. It's just easier that way. Phase 1. Card updates, title holders, schedule, commissioner notes should all be here in this phase. As far as entering the same data you enter in the board post...this could be more difficult than you think. The board allows for tags like bold, italic, etc...while these are standard HTML formatting options, they are not written as standard HTML tags. We'll need to actually parse your input text to pull out the tags and convert them to HTML tags. While this can be done, it's not the most pleasant experience and it's not very easy to do with ColdFusion. Might I suggest allowing standard HTML tags instead of the board specific tags. This will allow us to make this a phase one deliverable, since it is very easy to take that text and store it in the DB as is, and then push it into the dynamic content area as HTML. With the tags you can use on the board, it should be very easy for the person updating to convert to HTML since they are all basic formatting tags. Phase 2. This is a great idea...but I think we should reserve it for phase 2. It's not SUPER difficult, but it doesn't involve a good deal of coding, mostly to make sure people enter data correctly, as well as coming up with a form so that all stats look 99% uniform. I think this was in our plans already. I think for the initial roll out, the idea is to get something professional and nice for new people visiting the site, and then work towards adding functionality for the current members of the fed. Also, from what I've experienced in working with the site, the boards here are still the primary forum for people already in the fed. People don't visit the site often and use it. Perhaps they'll use it more when that functionality is available, but we're not losing anything by not having it for the first phase. We can just leave the stats on the boards for the time being. Phase 1. The repository would exist for phase one, and people could go to the site to find the URL for the image they want. These would be uploaded by the administrator who has FTP access to the server. Uploading and approving would be later. Phase 2. Uploading and approval process. Users would be able to upload images and webmasters and admins would be able to approve or delete images, at which point, they would appear in the list of hosted images available from the site. Phase 1. The Joining info should be rewritten for the rollout of phase one, but it would still be static, meaning that the only way to update it would be to go into the HTML and update it manually. This is not something that changes very often, so there's no need to make easy updating of the Joining Info a priority. Adding a quick form for new users to send, via email, to the screener expressing interest in the fed could work here, but it wouldn't allow them to send stats yet. Phase 2. Here's the thing...sending PMs to people is VERY HARD to do from outside the boards (i.e. through a form on our website). Now, if the screener wants to do it over email, that's very easy. However, for phase 2, we could set up a form for users to fill out stats and send them through email to the screener. I agree that allowing people to just send in stats as a impulse would increase the number of people trying to get in here...because it wouldn't require going over to some other site and setting up an account and PMing someone who they already forgot the name of. Phase 1 or 2. A little while back, I started development of an archive application for the fed. It only archived matches and promos, but I intended to extend it to more. I didn't finish it, but it's pretty far along, so that I could, in theory, roll it out with phase 1, and extend it in phase 2. It was a system for people to log in, and submit matches and promos for archiving. It also allowed people to search the archives for matches, promos, people, etc. So, we already have some of this developed. Of course...standard best practices is to work with 800x600 resolution to accommodate the most people. Also, keeping file sizes small is a must...and I'm a nut when it comes to this. Any image over 15k is unusable in my book. Da "we're moving right along here" H

Well JOhnny...in order to hold us over until you're done with version 2, I am going to whip together a couple quick CF pages to make it easy to update the current site. Outcast has agreed to make the regular updates. The problem is... I tried to login to create a few new tables in the DB, but I couldn't login. Is there anything wrong? I think I might have deleted my drivers when my eval version of the client software expired. I'm gonna try more today...but, nonetheless, I'm gonna do that so we can at least update this site more. No offense to Z, but why are you submitting designs to him for approval? I'm wondering why, if you're submitting them to anyone, you're not submitting them to me, since I am kind of the head of this whole web initiative (that and the fact that I do this for a living). I'm sure Z knows his shit...so I'm not worried...but if you HAVE to submit to someone, I think it should be me...or King. If you're just trying to get opinions or something, why not submit for the whole fed to approve, not just Z. I'm just wondering, that's all... Moving along...I has occurred to me that part of the reason this isn't done yet is like you said, you don't know what people want. Here's what we need to do. 1) First, we must come up with a spec to define end-user functionality. For this version, we need to keep things small and not try to bring in too much functionality to start with. The idea is to start with some base functionality (dynamic content for the homepage, roster, etc) and then scale up by adding more complex functionality (user added stats, polls, etc) after we roll out the first build. It's called versioning...we'll start with 2.0, which includes our base set. ANd each time we roll out more functionality, it'll got to 2.1, 2.2, etc. However, it's going to be hard to proceed without a spec. To do this, you and I, or anyone else...or just you...should just sit down and hammer out what functionality we want to implement. What will the end-user do on the site...how will they do it? Don't wait for CC to come and say, this is what we want...having worked in software and web development for some time, I have found that if you want for the client to tell you everything they want, it'll be a year or more before you start. What you do, and what our project managers do here at work, is we present a spec, and they can say yay or nay or suggest other things. That's how you get the ball rolling with this. ANd that's what I suggest you do in this case. Put together a quick document, outlining the functionality of the site along with the layout, and submit it to CC for approval. I will make sure it gets pushed through, or, I will approve it myself (King and Mark trust my judgement in these areas). Also, might I suggest getting together with Outcast for help with determining the layout and functionality. He's been around many a e-fed site and from talking to him the other day, knows his shit. If you have any technical questions, you can always contact me if you need to. Da "just some advice from a guy who deals with this kind of crap for a living" H PS - If anyone calls me a designer or a webmaster or anything like that, I will kill them. My official title is Senior Flash/Interactive Programmer. The key word there is "PROGRAMMER"...and don't you forget it.

Fuck you Taylor and Strangler...cause TBS flat out lied to me! I was trying to guess who was coming back to do a program with him after Genesis...and my first guess was Erek Taylor...and he told a bold faced lie. I'll comment later....there's a lot to read. Da "i'll never believe another word you say" H

I suggested Moveable Type a long time ago when the site was on my server, but no one liked the idea of making it like a blog. Also, the space we use now doesn't have MT installed....and we don't have perms to install it. However, there are things we can do to make it easy to update. If I have time this week, I can probably whip some CF together to handle easier updating of the homepage with shows and such. I can't promise it...but if...by chance...I had Storm off from writing a match, I can probably do it. And I'm in the same boat as Cast...if it was easier to update and I didn't have to use Dreamweaver and update the HTML, then I could do it as well. Here's what I'll try to put together...basic updating news, card, and results...we won't have any archives or anything like that, but it's a start. Unless Johnny has a better idea... Da "can't believe he's agreeing to do this" H

Well, Spike and I were mainting the current site while Johnny D was working on version 2. Atlas and I have obviously slacked off...due to lack of time...but I'm not sure where we are in the development of version 2. We'll have to wait for Johnny to chime in... Da "no talk about me being a lazy bastard...everyone already knows it" H

Lord knows that I sure don't...and I don't think Spiktlas does...perhaps the new site will be done soon. I would have time to keep up with it if I didn't have to edit the HTML. Da "damn needy website" H

I'm not just gonna let you all disappear to write your matches all weekend...oh no. Where are you? How many words you written so far? How does your match look? I'm currently at 3,700 words, and it looks real good so far. But, I have to go to work in a few hours, so I might be cutting it close tomorrow, but I should get finished. Da "I can't write for 4 hours straight, so I need breaks...gimme somethign to read" H

::sigh:: After checking my PMs just now, I have come to the realization that Genesis's delay is, at least in part, my fault. Apparently, 12,000 words was too much for the PM system to handle...of course, it didn't exactly tell me this when I sent the match. Stupid piece of fucking shite PM system... Anyway...I was so spent after the match, I had to take a nap...and then when I awoke, I had to leave almost immediately (after showing, of course)...so I didn't check that my PM went through. By the time Raynor had emailed me, I was already gone. So...my bad y'all...I'm really sorry. It's all my fault...but really...you can just blame Outcast...he's used to it. Da "Outcast did it" H

Usually? How about always! Even when you weren't writing for the show, it's delay was 100% your fault. Da "accept it" H

Oh...in case I didn't say it earlier...I topped off at around 12,040 words. And it's a hum dinger...not necessarily good...but there's a ton of stuff in there. Da "good god...we go all out for Genesis" H

Muzz = teh funnies Da "can talk in that internet message board chat speak" H PS - I hate you all. Especially King...

Whew...just under 10,000 words...but I still have my pre-ending spot to do, and then the ending...but the Skins come on in an hour. I'm fucked. Oh...Z...when you get a chance, hit me on AIM cause I'll need your help with the Awards show. Da "knew this would happen" H

Well, I wake up this morning with 6,421 words...I really should have written when I came back from work...by golly, I just wanted to play Madden. If all goes well, I'll finish my match before the Redskins game, and I'll write the awards show and post that some time between 7 and 8. Da "when was the last time things went according to schedule" H

6,057 now as I head off to work!! Hopefully I can continue writing when I get back around midnight...but it all depends on how tired I am. Da "hopes he doesn't no show genesis" H

Ladies and gentlemen...children of all ages...I, the Hville Thugg, and the entire Creative Control present to you... THE SMARTMARKS WRESTLING FEDERATION'S 3RD ANNUAL AWARDS NOMINATIONS Before we get to the ballot, let us first review the rules for voting and the process itself. To Vote: 1. Copy and paste the blank ballot, in the post following this one, into a Private Message addressed to hvillethugg. 2. Fill out the ballot for each category you wish to place a vote for by tying their name under the category for which you are voting. 3. (optional) Add a comment as to why you think the person (or match or promo) you are voting for should win the award. Comments will be tabulated and included in the Awards Show itself. You do not have to include a comment, but it would certainly be of great assistance if we had some nice things to say about the winners. 4. Enter the subject of the private message as "{insert your name}'s Ballot". For example, my ballot would be, "HVT's Ballot". PLEASE DO THIS!! It just makes it harder for me to weed through the crap to get to your ballot. Please label your PM correctly! See, the process is very simple. Please pay close attention to the process...even though I know some of you will not follow anyway. The Rules: 1. You can only vote once in each category. No "honorable mention". No "this person or that person". No half votes. One vote per category, period. 2. You may "write-in" a vote for a person, match, or promo that is not on the ballot. However, please do not write in stupid shit, like "Memphis Eel" unless it is for the Comedic Moment category. If you do, you will get a very public flaming from me. Only REAL WRITE-INS. 3. Your ballot must be in my "Inbox" by 12pm EASTERN ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH. No later! In the event that I still do not have power at home, I need to compile the ballots on Friday afternoon, which means I'm giving up my time at work and risking getting fired to do this. So please have your ballot in by then. Noon on Friday, no later. 4. Only send one ballot. I don't want ballot from Annie and Beezel. I know who everyone is. I also can see IP addresses...so don't do it. Once I've received all the ballots, or noon Friday comes around, I will tally up the votes, and I will post the results Sunday by 7pm. That should give everyone who has finished their Genesis matches something to read and comment on before Genesis is posted. If for some reason I do not have power by then (which is a distinct possibility), Z will post the show by 7pm Sunday. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY BALLOTS TO Z. IT WILL JUST MAKE THINGS CONFUSING If I don't have power, I will get Z everything he needs, so send everything to me. Just to note, I'm not trying to be mean, but I have to be very clear about what I want because every year, someone fucks it up. Now I will say good luck to all the nominees, and get those ballots in. The Smartmarks Wrestling Federation Presents... THE SWF AWARDS BALLOT The nominees for the Smartmarks Junior League Awards are... The Cyclone Comet Memoial Trophy - For Wrestler Of The Year Crow Mike Van Siclen Ejiro Fasaki Charlie Matthews The Chris Storm Memorial Trophy - For Match Of The Year Va'aiga vs Crow (Singles Match, SJL World Title, SJL Wrath, 03-06-01) Dace Night vs Spike Jenkins (D@mnation In A Box, SJL Malice in Wonderland, 03-01-26) Ejiro Fasaki vs Fugue (Caged Ladder Match, SJL World Title, SJL Wrath, 02-12-22) Wildchild & Johnny Dangerous vs Judge Mental (Five Wounds Match, SJL Wrath, 02-11-24) The El Luchadore Magnifico Mexican Pride Award - For Feud Of The Year Award Va'aiga vs. Crow Wildchild vs. Ejiro Fasaki Mike Van Siclen vs. Janus Charlie "Grappler" Matthews vs. Urban Decay The Ash Ketchum Pokeball Award - For Most Improved Wrestler Mike Van Siclen John Duran Johnny "Barracuda" Dangerous Viktor Tarakanov The Grimedogg Memorial Trophy - For Booker of the Year Alex ZenonThe Boston Strangler Longdogger Pete Suicide King The HVT Thugg Passion Award - For Best World Champion Judge Mental Crow Dace Night Ejiro Fasaki The Frost Memorial Early Winter Trophy - For the European Champion of the Year Sean Atlas English Dragon Janus Ejiro Fasaki The TV Champion of the Year Award John Duran Charlie "Grappler" Matthews Landon "La Cucaracha" Maddix Shawn Tybalt The Clan Memorial Stable of the Year Award Magnificent Seven (JL Division) Urban Decay Wild & Dangerous Nights The Tom Flesher Heel of the Year Award Ejiro Fasaki Sean Atlas Janus Fugue The Joy of X Trophy - For Face of the Year Va'aiga Crow Wildchild Mike Van Siclen The Eddy Mac Award - For Best Promo Writer Mike Van Siclen Ejiro Fasaki Judge Mental Crow The Promo of the Year Award Painting the White To Gray - Crow Preset and Past - Judge Mental An Open Letter to Tom Flesher - Ejiro Fasaki Who is Your God? - Sean Atlas ------------------------------- And the nominees for the Smartmarks Wrestling Federation Awards are... The Jayson Grant Memorial Trophy - For Wrestler of the Year Tom Flesher "TNT" Taylor Nicholas Thompson The Boston Strangler El Luchadore Magnifico The Divefire Memorial Trophy - For Comeback Wrestler of the Year Beezel/Annie Eclectic "TNT" Taylor Nicholas Thompson The Boston Strangler Sean Atlas/Spike The Pay Per View Match of the Year Award Edwin MacPhisto vs Chris Raynor (Last Man Standing Match, Genesis III, 02-09-30) Tom Flesher vs Frost (Window Pain Match, SWF Ground Zero, 03-10-08) "TNT" Taylor Nicholas Thompson vs El Luchadore Magnifico (Two Falls Match, World Title, SWF From the Fire 2003, 03-03-16) Justice & Rule vs Deja Vu vs Wild and Dangerous (TLC Match, Tag Team Titles, SWF Battleground 2003, 03-05-04) Tom Flesher vs El Luchadore Magnifico (Ladder/Submissions Match, SWF Clusterfuck, 03-01-02) The Non-PPV Match of the Year Award Sacred vs El Luchadore Magnifico (World Title Match, SWF Storm, 02-10-11) Thoth vs Tom Flesher (World Title Match, SWF Lockdown, 03-02-07) Magnificent Seven (Tom Flesher, Judge Mental and Ejiro Fasaki) vs The Unholy Trinity (Danny Williams, Dace Night and Va'aiga) (Six Man Tag, SWF Lockdown, 03-07-16) Dace & Va'aiga vs Justice & Rule (Tag Team Titles, SWF Storm, 03-11-07) The Feud of the Year Award El Luchadore Magnifico vs. Tom Flesher Frost vs. Tom Flesher Crow vs. Janus Ejiro Fasaki vs. Wildchild The Jay Dawg Improvement Award - For Most Improved Wrestler Michael Craven Mak Francis Annie Eclectic/Beezel The Boston Strangler The Axis Memorial Trophy - For Most Under-appreciated Wrestler Michael Craven Wildchild Janus Dace Night The Stubby P. McWeed Trophy - For Booker of the Year The Boston Strangler Suicide King "Grand Slam" Mark Stevens Edwin MacPhisto The Rane Memorial Trophy - For Most Impressive Career Frost "TNT" Taylor Nicholas Thompson El Luchadore Magnifico Thoth The Hville Thugg & Edwin MacPhisto Cup of Champions - For Best World Champion The Boston Strangler Tom Flesher "TNT" Taylor Nicholas Thompson El Luchadore Magnifico The Fallout ICTV Champion of the Year Award Mak Francis Danny Williams Frost Tom Flesher The US Champion of the Year Award Michael Craven Mak Francis Danny Williams Ejiro Fasaki The Grimedogg Hardcore Champion of the Year Award Judge Mental Dace Night Michael Craven Annie Eclectic The Light-Heavyweight Champion of the Year Award Annie Eclectic El Luchadore Magnifico The Fallen Tag Team Trophy - For Tag Team of the Year Frost & Tom Flesher Justice & Rule ("The Judge" William Hearford & Ejiro Fasaki) Unholy Trinity (Dace Night & Va'aiga) Double Jeopardy (Quiz & Charlie "Show" Matthews) The Pay Per View of the Year Award From the Fire 2003 Ashes to Ashes 2002 Battleground 2003 13th Hour 2003 The Stable of the Year Award Magnificent Seven Unholy Trinity Catch 22 The Midnight Carnival The Ace of Clubs Trophy - For Heel of the Year Tom Flesher Michael Craven Ejiro Fasaki "The Judge" William Hearford The Grand Slam Trophy - For Face of the Year Frost The Boston Strangler Danny Williams "TNT" Taylor Nicholas Thompson The Cyclone Comet Trophy - For Best Promo Writer Andrew "The Sacred One" Blackwell Nathaniel "Silent" Kibagami Tom Flesher Frost The Rookie Of The Year Award Wildchild Janus Ejiro Fasaki "The Judge" William Hearford The Promo fo the Year Award In the Fade - Edwin MacPhisto The Luvin' Spoonful - Alex Zenon Frost on Howard Stern - Frost Blue - El Luchadore Magnifico ------------------------------- General The Mayor McCheese Comedic Moment of the Year Award Mall Brawl IV - Janus (SJL Malice in Wonderland, 03-01-26) Calvinball Match - Jimmy "The Demon" Liston (Calvinball Match, SJL Crimson, 03-08-14) Judge vs Ejiro - Judge Mental & Ejiro Fasaki (Ping Pong Challange, SWF Lockdown, 03-05-28) Suicide King(L) vs Michelle(W) (SWF Battleground 2003, 03-05-04) The Munich Jackass Trophy - For ”Tool” of the Year Blazenwing "Hollywood" Spike Jenkins Tokyo X Mark Kinxx Special Thanks to Z for finding all the links to the matches and promos, to all of Creative Control for providing input for the ballots, and to everyone to made suggestions for nominations

Yeah, they do Mark...I'll probably end up writing it myself (because it's just easier that way)...that is, if all goes according to plan, which has me finishing my match (which I've only gotten through 2 entrances) tomorrow and writing the awards show Sunday during the football games Da "we all know it won't turn out like that though" H

Well, I won't need help tallying, but I WILL need help writing the show if we want more than just me listing the results. We'll have to see what happens come Sunday... Da "it IS football day afterall" H

Meh...you have till Sunday, so take your time now. Da "kills everyone" H

No, I didn't Mak...did you send it? Da "try using the 'send' button..." H

See...yet ANOTHER case of people NOT reading my posts...I clearly...in bold...stated that ballots were due by Friday at noon. I don't understand how people could miss it. But fine...I'll extend to except ballots until Sunday morning at 12pm eastern. Is that enough time for everyone? I hope so, and everyone who didn't know about the deadline should feel responsible if I can't get my genesis match done. Ok...so, to recap... SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH AT 12:00PM!!! That's when ballots are due... Da "if you don't have it done by noon on Sunday, don't bother" H

Just a reminder...you have less than 2 hours to get your ballot in if you haven't done so. With all the interest people claimed to have in the awards show, I'd have thought I would have more ballots for this. So, if you haven't voted...vote now! Time is ticking. Da "smackdown your vote" H

No, I love you Ejiro...someday, I will make you my love slave! Da "uhhhh...wow, my brain is mush" H

No...it's too late now Don't worry about it... Da "i fucking hate my clients" H

You know what I find so very amusing?? How so many people can't follow directions. I don't get it...how hard is it to name your PM... "Wildchild's Ballot" Not that he's guilty of this (I haven't even gotten a ballot from him which is why I used him as the example). But I don't get it. What's the deal? Do people just not read what I write? I've gotten all kinds of crap from people... "My ballot" "Awards ballot" "Ballot of greatness OMG!!1!" What the fuck? Please people...make this easy on me. It's not that hard. "Z's ballot" That's it. No creative names. Don't try to be funny. Don't try to be witty. You can do that IN your ballot...don't do it with the title. Please...it's very simple... "Hville Thugg's ballot" It's ridiculous. I know everyone here is very smart, so I gotta think it's not that you all are too dumb to follow the directions. Which only leads to one of two conclusions: 1. You just don't care, and it doesn't matter to you if you piss me off by my making my life harder. OR 2. You just didn't read the instructions. Seriously people...come on...how hard is it? Da "my goodness..." H