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An online recap a few years back referenced a list Dave Meltzer made of the inaccuracies in Hulk Hogan's first autobiography (the WWE-produced one). Is this list online?

I know. I'm just saying that if they really wanted to eradicate someone from WWE history, for whatever reason, THAT is how they would do it.

This gives me an opportunity to finally ask a question about GLOW of all things. Do you remember the season finale in which Ninotchka beats Tina "Ivory" Ferrari for the GLOW championship...then promptly gives up the title, only to return next season ditching her evil Soviet gimmick for a babyface French ballerina one. Yet...the commentator was nonetheless constantly burying her, calling her a "traitor" (against the EVIL Russians????) and making fun of her shape and outfit. Anyone know what was up with that? And why did she give up the title in the first place??????

Also, at least Savage is still prominently featured on choice reruns on 24/7. I would think we should all know by know what they could do if they do not want to be associated with someone (coughB*N**Tcough)

THIS is the exact shirt I was thinking of when I saw this thread! It is, however, extra hilarious when you ignore/can't see the first part of the statement. As an addendum, would you wear that shirt with these modifications:

Also...to the person who said Eddie was treated well...well, his matches are still seen, and he is still mentioned...but considering what happened for 1 1/2 years on SD!, would you say it was worth it??????

THIS is the exact shirt I was thinking of when I saw this thread! It is, however, extra hilarious when you ignore/can't see the first part of the statement.

Here's an idea: all we have to do is share our old tapes with younger fans. They'll get the idea seeing the footage in its "pure" form and our memories. (which WWE actually does more often than you say...they show WCW/NWA shows on 24/7 basically untouched, after all...well...as untouched as you can with music clearance changes and "necessary" edits)

They choose to edit off any footage featuring Benoit, they don't have to. Frankly, I feel that removing Benoit from WWE history is retarded. Retarded, but necessary. I hate having to defend that company, but this scandal is causing them a lot of trouble, and do they want to be seen as "glorifying the work of a murderer"? (not necessarily the truth, but people can twist it as such) This doesn't warrant the usual BAWing about WWE revisionist history, you know, the "don't give Macho Man a DVD cause he had sex with young Steph or whatever the urban legend is" rants. Remember, this is the same society that felt the need to remove ANYTHING with the WTC in it after 9/11, no matter if a terror attack was being implied or not. So I wasn't too surprised. If you really want to see Benoit matches again, things may look up after everyone has gotten over it, etc. etc. (but how long will that take is the question...) But we as a society are good at that too, to a fault...going back to my original example, look at the people who make 9/11 jokes and all!

The Sandman thing...I can see how it is supposed to push Peter under the influence of the symbiote to giving in to revenge and all. (Sandman, then, would be the equivalent of Rhino in the TAS version of the Venom story, but they tagged on a reason for Spidey to wail on Sandy) But I do hope it proves to be a swerve of some sort, and I can see it being so, actually. Otherwise, it reeks of "Joker killed Thomas and Martha Wayne," yet is nowhere as unintrusive as that really was for Batman '89. That really wasn't THAT big of a retcon. On the other hand, with Spidey, yes, first we saw the thug in the first movie, albeit not doing the killing. Second, yeah...if Peter didn't stop the WRONG guy, is he really guilty of causing Uncle Ben's death? And thus Spider-Man should NOT exist??? If Sandy = killer is anything but a swerve/something that proves to be a lie, the only way to fix this is to make him and the unnamed thug accomplices somehow. Raimi doesn't seem to be the kind of guy to Schumacher us, so I am clinging to the hope that this will have some logic to it as it plays out in the movie.

The worst though was when Riki Lake hosted it for "Game Show Marathon". She managed to butcher TPiR, Card Sharks, LMAD, Press Your Luck AND Match Game '74. Yes the TPIR episode was abyssmal (dig the Showcase Showdown where they made up rules on the fly), but the GSM versions of MG, PYL, and CS I liked just because I saw Match Game '98, Card Sharks '01, and Whammy. So nothing could out-underperform those. And I know you meant the Doug Davidson TPIR, but Dennis James and Tom Kennedy both did good jobs for non-Bob TPIR hosts. Still you make a good point, as FremantleMedia tends to pick hosts out of their ass (Louie Anderson? Richard "I'm gonna DOUBLE THE POINTS, LOVE ME DAMMIT" Karn, Pat "You can change the card cause I'm a nice guy" Bullard, and aforementioned Ricki Lake, the antithesis of game shows as talk shows like hers caused the genre to be buried pretty much). John O'Hurley is probably the best choice they made in the last 10 years.

As far as Zenk's old articles...would The Internet Wayback Machine help? Did you try it?

Make that double on the email request list!

Is the Meltzer on WCW thread still floating out there somewhere on DVDVR? Also, Shark Boy went unmasked as Dean Roll on WCNSN, no? (also remember him from that MTV special that gave us the phenom that was Rapid Delivery)

Of course it is. 93,173 people jam-packed the Pontiac Silverdome to see the IIIIIIIMMORTAL Hulk Hogan lift the 700-pound Andre the Giant over his head! Not only that, what made it more amazing was that Hulk didn't know if Andre would let him win and pass the torch to him by losing the WWF title that night! And we all know that sadly, Andre died months later this historic contest. Seriously, cool stuff...wonder if we can get some Meltzer on JCP someday?

None of the original links seem to download. Do they need to be re-upped?

If Savage omissions still surprise anyone, they really need to get with the program. Does anyone know for sure what the deal is? (No I won't mention That Urban Legend...)

Backlund/Sheik is on the '80s DVD, if that's any consolation. Weird how some of the choices people wanted to see are on other collections, as we've been bitching about for matches that are on there. The Jesse thing I still don't totally get...I recall it being said that his WCW commentary was off-limits, but his WWF stuff was OK. That perhaps Jesse and WWE came to an agreement? Yet they only use his commentary and all when they "need" it, it seems (the HoF 2004 DVD, and the WM Anthology). When it's "expendable," the Jesse Embargo is in full effect. But when it comes to keeping that authentic classic feeling, it should NEVER be expendable. And while we all love giving WWE the riot acts, problems like these are not exclusive to them, of course. Things like image and music clearance plague the DVD industry as a whole, and have in fact kept many TV shows and the like from even being released in the first place!

They want to represent all eras and that would include John Cena, whom they want to be presented as Hogan/Rock level star. The problem was, they didn't have much to choose from and selecting Cena/Christian/Jericho is really awkward. Cena/JBL from JD05 would have served better in putting Cena over. If he's the one who did the job in the match, the second name in that triple threat match may be the answer to why it's being included. (DIE TNA STAR DIE!)

Well, Burton wasn't really a Batman fan. I doubt Joker will be killed in the next Batman movie, likely just jailed. Although the more people Joker kills, the more Batman thinks that he should finish him off the next time he has the chance. Yeah, while Batman '89 was good for what it was, time (and more exposure to the Batman mythos) hasn't been kind to it. That and not wanting to give power to the Goth lemmings who think Burton's a genius who shits gold and pisses tinsel every time ;-) Since Begins follows the comics canon, yes, Bats will not kill the Joker on purpose (I know, there's debate as to whether the death in the '89 movie was directly done by Batman or not) and is more likely to be satisfied with bringing him to justice. On a related note, that is ONE thing Schumacher did right...made Batman about sending villains to Arkham.

I actually just found out about the meaning of the Juggernaut line. Between talk of his questionable talent and writing for the internet to compensate, would this make Ratner the Vince Russo of motion pictures now????

I too didn't mind Fantastic Four myself...perhaps just seeing the Corman one influenced me, and the fact that we have a friend who reminds us of the movie Thing, but really it wasn't that bad. Not perfect (i.e. Jessica Alba gets the Denise Richards "dumb genius" treatment, and watered down Doom -- though that trip to Latveria at the end might do something about that) but mostly because of nitpicky stuff to me. It was actually more satisfying to me than Revenge of the Sith, if you can believe that. Well, I am getting the mixed reactions about X3 that I expected, and that in turn is giving me cold feet about seeing it (puts me in a bind, actually, as a friend wanted me to go with him to see it, as a belated birthday present...tix would be on him). If it's F4 acceptable, and I don't need to bust out the Schumacher Rubber Nipple Meter (for the "new director/third installment" curse), then fine. But I also fear the feeling of seeing a watered down version of Singer's work and feeling let down. Actually, the more reasonable reviews here do make me feel a BIT better, over on DVDVR they're much harder on the movie. Still the concerns remain. Oh well, if X3 marks the jumping of the shark, hopefully we lost a good X-Men movie but got that decent Superman movie in exchange.

Whenever I hear this part, I think of the song "Hulk Hogan On Crack" now...

I've never really been on top of this RapidShare stuff...how does it work? I click the link, click the "free" download, and then the message says "Wait in XX minutes." I must have waited way past then, but nothing happened. Was something supposed to?

As for the "doing it to strike out at TNA" thing...now that I think of it, has TNA even relied greatly on New Japan in any way? All I came up with was Lyger's one shot and the JJ/Hogan angle.