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So, with 'terruh/evildoersh' being Bush's main issue, and with the consensus aggreeing that this particular debate was either a draw or John Kerry victory...What are the predictions/thoughts on the upcoming domestic issues debate, the area where our President has struggled on? I can see this being a huge victory for John Kerry, one that definitively sways the election...but Im not about to underestimate the debate skills of Bush(I do find at least a little merit in the Republicans' 'Hurricane victims causing emotional fatigue' reasoning). And, of course, Mike and his pet goat GreatOne will probably agree that it will be 'another Bush win', or Kerry will cheat mightilly with heavy usage of smoke, mirrors, and grassy knolls...

I think that criticism of FoxNews might technically be considered treasonous...so we should all probably just shut up now.

Overrating? A majority of America has agreed that John Kerry won the debate at best, drew the President on his own big issue at worse....this is the decision of the country, just because your guy didn't win doesnt mean that anything was 'overrated'. I dont even see the Bush camp refuting these results too much... But of course, in greatone's esteemed opinion, the same American majority speaking here is probably the same group that got over 9-11 on September 12th

I think I may have seen a tranquilizer dart in the left side of Bush's neck as well...

Mike, do you still actually think that Bush won this debate? This is supposed to be his key issues (war, teror, evildoersh)...and he clearly earned no better than a 'draw' with a vast consensus giving the nod to Kerry. Im thinking that the Republikid lawyers should have gotten a stipulation added to the debate rules that Dick Cheney could be there to hold the President's hand...

New York (AP) - In an unprecedented series of concerts in nine swing states, more than 20 musical acts - including Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam and the Dixie Chicks, will perform fund-raising concerts one month before the November 2 election in an effort to unseat President Bush. The concert series is being titled "Vote For Change"<./a> The shows, which will begin October 1 in Pennsylvania, will take an unusual approach: as many as six concerts on a single day in cities across the states expected to decide the November presidential race. Other stops on the tour are North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Wisconsin and the key state in 2000, Florida. "We're trying to put forward a group of progressive ideals and change the administration in the White House," Springsteen told The Associated Press in the most overtly political statements of his 30-year career. "That's the success or failure, very clear cut and very simple." The artists of different generations and genres will tour under the name "Vote For Change," with shows Oct. 1-8. But the money generated will go to America Coming Together, which promises on its Web site to "derail the right-wing Republican agenda by defeating George W. Bush." The anticipated millions of dollars will be spent in the swing states before the presidential election, said ACT president Ellen Malcolm. The shows will be presented by MoveOn Pac, the electoral arm of the liberal interest group MoveOn.org, Tickets go on sale for all shows Aug. 21. The shows will pair artists, such as Springsteen and or the Dixie Chicks and James Taylor. There will be 34 shows in 28 cities. Natalie Maines, of the Dixie Chicks, who memorably told a London audience last year that she was ashamed to share her home state of Texas with Bush, echoed a Springsteen comment that this was the most important election of their lives. "A change is in order," Maines said. "There's never been a political climate like this, which is so the polar opposite of me as a person and what I believe in." The idea was hatched by several of the acts' managers, and quickly expanded. "Once we started talking to each other, ideas started percolating and other artists started reaching out to us," said Jon Landau, Springsteen's manager. Other artists participating in the shows include hip-hoppers Jurassic 5, John Mellencamp, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, Babyface, Bright Eyes and the Dave Matthews Band. Most have a history of social activism, from Browne's anti-nuclear concerts to Mellencamp's Farm Aid shows. Pearl Jam front man Vedder backed Ralph Nader in 2000. At some point, you can't sit still," said Vedder, a harsh critic of the Iraq war. "You can't spend your life, when people are getting killed, without asking serious questions about why." Springsteen said he didn't fear any backlash over going public with his personal politics. "It's a pretty clear-cut decision in November," said Springsteen, whose songs have provided a backdrop for some Kerry events. "We're chipping in our two cents. That's all we're trying to do." credit - pollstar.com

Those first five words in general suffice. Seriously, you can't be ragging on me over in WWE, spin Bush=Hitler rhetoric (tell me you haven't, I'd be thrilled that my tuition's free) over here, and then when called on it, go 'DUH?'. I'm aware that I missed such posting icons as Kamui and Hunger4Unger--but they were a comical pleasure to read, which is one of my few regrets. greatone - The only thing that happened in the WWE Folder was that you claimed that 'a good portion of posters here got over 9-11 immediately', and you were quickly proven wrong and ridiculous. And I dont recall ever making this Hitler-Bush comparison, if you could find a link to that - Thatd be neat... How do you know they were comical if you missed them? Id this a previously banned poster?

Beck's Mutations cd

I lost my old copy...Are there any sites that still have the download?

Damien Rice - Volcano

Shane vs Test - Lover Her Or Leave Her Shane vs X-Pac - WM 15 Bossman v Barbarian - Royal Rumble 91

No.

Actually I called originally for one of you three to start using that pic since Stevey was so emphatic in his use of it. I never actually said you compared Bush to Hitler word for word. But hell if you wanna wear the shoe.................... I have absolutely no idea what your talking about...

Well considering there were posters over in CE a couple weeks ago--gee snuff why wouldn't I be surprised if YOU were one of them--that said that's how they felt, maybe I'm not so far off. And considering the ridiculousness of your posts over in CE anyway, pot meet kettle, you both suck Well played

CSNY - Helplessly Hoping

When did moveon.org make that claim?

I really dont think a 'good portion' of the entire American public has completely gotten over 9-11 yet. That was a pretty ridiculous statement by greatone. And, I agree with jester, and disagree with escalade...I dont think that phrases involving 'killing' get thrown out too often in pro wrestling or pro sports. I dont recall hearing 'Im gonna kill ya!' in too many NFL pregame shows... I think it was just a sad coincidence that they did a death angle while in KC...but with just a little thought it could have been avoided entirely, and thats the problem. The paid writers apparently dont have time to think through necessary details like this.

Hes starring in a theatre production....Im afraid I missed the 'fallen' part

Other - Tully Blanchard

Id spend the 500 on concerts and travels. And maybe a copy of Great American Bash 89.

Meh...Orton.

Benoit/HBK/HHH - WMXX

Neil Young - Mr. Soul(unplugged)

Tough question...I picked Flair.

And greatone has only been here for a few months I think... pretty wise comment there