The Ghost of bps21

ha... I thought of Generation Next right after I put up my pick. Even thought about asking if I could have a redo since no one else had selected. So much for getting back to me in 8 picks.

Well...they have a section of the sports section that is wrestling... So...I'll go with "kinda"

I think Hawk and I mean the same thing. And I misunderstood what you said.

Oh...I see what you did there. yeah...I don't know I'f I'll be picking the other guy or not.

I think I know who he means.

Matt Hardy. Just because. I like everything about Matt Hardy except that he can't talk to his way out of a paper bag. I find that most of my roster can't talk that well...so if you come to one of my shows...it's gonna be all action...by necessity.

Don't feel bad. I'm in 3 different drafts and I don't think I've gotten to make a pick in ANY of them for at least 3 days.

Just started watching the show on DVR. Vickie has to be the most over person in the company at this point.

The first and most important thing is that despite the questionable booking, their ppvs on the road are usually very fun to attend. And for all their faults, they really treat the fans well when you attend. Onto the show: Joe is champion and defending in the King of the Mountain Match against Christian, Rhino, Robert Roode and newly heel Booker T (who is his stiffest challenger at this point and the only guy other than Joe who would make sense winning this match) AJ just turned face, and he's awesome again. Angle hasn't wrestled since his injury...but you know that never stops him from going all out. This is their first match...so that's cool. All the stuff with the women has been really good...and they always deliver...so that should be a fun watch too. Other than that...there's a shocking lack of gimmick matches (other than the Main Event) which is quite refreshing to see.

Who had "say something negative" in the pool of what Truthiness would bring to the conversation? ... Everybody? ... No winners today.

These Kong challenges are just great. Just so brutal. Tonight I got a Kong challenge, Awesome face AJ Styles, a fun X division KOTM and...of course...the Beautiful People. Good enough for me.

There's an opposite way to look at all of that tough. They may be "excuses" but let's examine another side to all of those titles the WWE midcard racked up: 1. Ken Shamrock. They had 3 "name" guys in the company when it launched, Jarrett, Shamrock and Hall. I honestly don't even think that the pre-3 hour ppvs should be in this conversation since it was a completely different and failed experiment they were running with guys under barely any contracts and options extrememly limited in the beginning. They run their talent at a 180 degree angle from what they were doing in the beginning. But Shamrock was the first champion getting the call over drug addict Hall and the only guy who they knew wasn't going to be leaving the company, heel Jarrett. I'm not going to fantasy book here...but you either have a heel close your first pay per view with the win...or Shamrock pretty much had to be the guy. 2. Ron Killings. It irks me that we're including him in the discussion because anyone who watched that first 2 months of TNA knows what happened here. They had a guy who worked in the WWE. They gave him a mic and he got himself over. They made the absolute right call of putting the title on him. Killings' title win is one of the top few moments that I think this company has had from an "establishing yourself as something different" standpoint...so his inclusion on a list of "they put the title on midcard WWE guys" seems counterproductive to what his push actually accomplished. 3. Raven. He's only on the list because he worked in the WWE. It's not like he showed up and they handed him the title (which I might point out is one of the things that people complain MOST about). It wasn't WWE fans cheering for him when he showed up...it was Raven fans who were psyched to see him in a setting where he might actually get pushed again. Which only ended up happening to a low degree anyway. Which is more of a fault than the culmination of his "destiny". 4. Rhino. He's never been pushed as the top guy and again, only had a cup of coffee with the title because they couldn't deliver on their Bound For Glory main event. They could have chosen Abyss or gone back to Styles again and it would have probably been a BETTER choice...but they went with Rhino who was the freshest face to the company only having been in a few months and not ruined by their own booking yet. 5. Christian. Easily the guy who best fits the argument that they'll put the titles on the WWE midcarders, because that's exactly what he was. I won't even get into how over he got himself that year playing off of Cena or that his subsequent burial after being switched to Smackdown is what lead to his departure in the first place... Far more important is the fact that he is the only guy to actually choose to work for TNA over the WWE. The Dudley's try to claim it, Angle tries to say he got fired on purpose, even Kaz left WWE with a hope of getting picked back up...but Christian actually jumped. At the time the only thing in the main event was Jarrett again. Now...onto the big one...and the far more detrimental one and where the train really went off track. It wasn't a WWE midcarder...but a main eventer who stunted TNA's growth. TNA didn't take a look at Samoa Joe and decide that he was something that they could try and build their company around until it was (as many have said) a year and a half past his time. Now...the first 6 months of that time is their own fault for playing out the Sting/Jarrett feud for 10 fucking months. Joe was ready when he beat Steiner. Even WCW got this one right and put Goldberg over Hogan when the iron was hot. But TNA blew that. So when the circle comes back around and Joe is the obvious guy that belongs on top...Angle's their long term champion choice. Now...Angle is clearly a more established than the 5 guys above...but his place on top did more to hold back the promotion from gaining it's own identity than anything else. When you look back on their championship choices...the biggest problems aren't the "WWE midcard" guys that they picked to have runs...they all came at a time when there was no clear choice (Christian or Shamrock) or they actually WERE the fresh thing (Truth) or a culmination of a long wait (Raven) or an injury (Rhino)... The BIGGEST problems are the times when they passed on making it a new guys time that could have given them something fresh and different on top: 1. AJ Styles should have beaten Jeff Jarrett when he had his first title shot way way back before they put him with Russo. Now...he ended up getting 3 title reigns...but that night would have done a lot to say to everyone they were different. Instead they worked to make him like everyone else before he could win. 2. Monty Brown should have pinned Jeff Jarrett clean on Impact when he no sold that guitar shot. 3. If Abyss was going to get his thanks for killing yourself title reign...he should have beaten Sting for real and not the lame ass way they did it. 4. Samoa Joe should have AT THE VERY LEAST been the one to win the TNA title instead of Angle last Slammiversary (although I'd have found time for him to do it before). ... In the end...at least they didn't put the title on Jeff Hardy when he didn't like showing up for shows. ... I don't even feel like posting this because I know what's going to happen next.

Rhino only got that one win title reign because they couldn't deliver their advertised main event on the show due to Nash's staff infection. That's just the way wrestling works. You know that. As for Christian...what was wrong with pushing him to the top? He certainly earned a chance to run up there as much as anyone who was in the company at that time (pre-Sting/Angle/Booker). The only guy they had who had won a World title in the big 2 before at the time he came in was Jarrett...and he was beyond stale.

As Hillary Clinton will tell you (right before barking out assasination orders) her husband didn't lock up the nomination until June.

hmm... Mickie is with Cena... McCool is with Taker... HHH and HBK are married and off limits... Who's the next best guy with political clout in the company that a diva can partner up with?

I'm going to Darthtiki's island.

I'm looking forward to seeing someone draft a guy who had a good game that day once the season rolls around.

Creed?

This is why I didn't sign up. If I was drafitng like...last in the first round it was possible that all the shows I loved (which number roughly...like 4) would have been gone.

Yes. Everything you say is unbiased and correct. Everything that I and anyone else who says anything opposite what you say is wrong and wears pro TNA blinders. I think I'm going to change my posting style to be exactly like yours. This ought to be fun.

I don't get it...what sport is he supposed to be playing in this one?

They haven't been back to the playoffs since they did it.

He was also in the conversation in my warroom for the last pick. There was one guy at the table that was al gung-ho about a Valentine/JJ match that actually would probably be quite good. It was his time to go, I knew when I didn't pick him that he'd be up real soon.

I haven't seen anyone blame Lethal. Everyone's only tried to say that he can't be a top guy with a parody gimmick. Then you respond by making fun of Joe. Then we repeat the same thing in every other thread in the folder.