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I thought Nash was from Canada... I'm Canadian, they're both Canadian, so I was cheering them on. It's pretty much a running joke that Fox never plays for Team Canada.

At least with Zack, it's not really said in seriousness. It's in a joking manner. With FS, he literally showers her with praises about being extremely beautiful or some shit like that, not to mention that he does this more than often. It's a little weird actually.

Yes, YOU could lose. Weren't you the one who hated when fans said "us" or "we". The fact that it's a national team makes no difference. GO STEVE NASH! GO RICK FOX even though you never go anyways GO RICK FOX!

Ten for a student, thirteen for an adult. I guess I should've said ten. It's expensive in the Tdot... She is a bitch in this movie, it's essentially the opposite of her character in A Walk To Remember. Both Christian girls, but they represent different ends of the spectrum.

Well I never said I saw it before, but it comes out tomorrow. I've been trying to d/l it, but on Kazaa it seems to keep cancelling is taking FOREEEEEEEEEEEEVER. It's probably a fake anyway. I guess I should just shell out the thirteen dollars and see it in theater.

Don't fall off the roof?

Depends on how bored. Ripper - Against boredom. *Supplies minority vote* For those that care about that sort of thing, Fooster was reading this thread.

Eh, maybe it's all about different social circles. I can't stand it though, even during my "Metal" days I didn't really like it. I was more or less into Slayer, In Flames, Iron Maiden, etc. etc. They don't really have much to do with each other, but I loved them all regardless.

Shut the hell up. k tnx bye

Cro Cop dominated the first round like no other. Noguiera was lucky to get the takedown. He did nothing with Cro Cop in his guard. Didn't really have a chance to work anything. When Cro Cop exposed himself with the buck, that's when he grabbed the arm. It was a beautiful armbar, but it doesn't change the fact that Cro Cop was barely on the ground. Fyodor would have taken him down much sooner. He threw Heath like a ragdoll, he threw Schilt like a ragdoll, and he probably could have done the same to Gary. Nog can't take down people like that. His clinch work is much better than Nog's, and Nog's takedowns aren't nearly as effective as Fyodor's are. By the way, Nog didn't take Coleman down, the whole story of that fight was that Coleman couldn't take his strikes, so he took the risk of getting subbed by taking him down and taking his chances there. Well it didn't really work out for him. Nog has a bunch of skills that he doesn't really use. What did he do to Ricco? His standup is FAR superior, but he didn't do shit. All the skills in the world don't matter when you lack the agression to use it, especially striking skills. He stands up much in the same way like he utilises BJJ. Power standing can be more important than skills in MMA. There are so many things to worry about. Who would knock out whom in a K1 match, Randleman or Cro Cop? Who could knock out whom in an MMA match? Okay fine, he can come back from a beating. Sapp, Cro Cop, etc. etc. Liddell could come back from a beating too, but when matched up with someone more versatile (Rampage/Couture) it didn't mean anything. But I digress. The point is, that coming back from a beating isn't everything. Fyodor has shown other ways of being resilient, as when Coleman had his back and punched him repeatedly in the face Fyodor was the calmest motherfucker alive. Don't tell me that he *can't* come back from a beating. The fact that he's undefeated and has had matches where he's come back from bad spots shows that he can and can do it again.

You made the point I was gonna make. That's a false analogy, since the situation isn't comparable. Fyodor has not lost since his win over Nog, the win over Nog was in recent past, Nog hasn't drastically improved in areas that would tell us that he can clearly beat Fyodor, unlike Rampage has after he ran through the competition following his debut. In addition, Sakuraba was beat like what, three times since then? His only victory I believe was against Gilles Arsene. Who? Exactly. It's not the same thing. How can Nog beat Fyodor? By doing the same thing he did last time. That will be his strategy again obviously, you said yourself it's about submitting him in the triangle. It's not like Rampage, who had brought out an all new set of skills since the Sak match, but I'll stop with that. Fyodor can do the same thing he did last time. Nog can't. As for adaptability, Noguiera barely got a win over Cro Cop. He got lucky when Cro Cop exposed himself with the buck. He didn't do much in his triangle. If anything, I would say that Fyodor is more versatile, since he has better standup, is a better wrestler, and has a better ground game from the top, as shown by his wicked GnP. Nog has proven that he can come back from a beating. He hasn't proven that he can come back from a Fyodor beating. If you want to bring up the Fujita fight, fine. I'd say that Noguiera wouldn't have been able to take him down, and he doesn't have nearly the same agression that Fyodor has in his standup to dominate a fight standing. He would not have delivered the liver kick that set up the choke obviously. If anything, it's a BAD styles matchup for him. Look at the fights they've had against the same people. Goodridge, Herring, Schilt, Coleman. The only fight where Nog looked more impressive was Schilt. Let's look at the remaining possible match ups, discluding Ogawa or Silva, since they're not taken seriously anyway: Herring: Been done, I don't see Nog submitting him this time, and I don't see him getting a KO or TKO. If anything, Nog would just get the decision, which I expect. Herring's stand up has actually improved though, so we should find out. I don't see what Herring could do against Fyodor any differently, as he threw him around like a 250 lb ragdoll, and rearranged his face afterwards. Fyodor clearly is the better wrestler. Randleman: Fyodor can out strike him, and can probably get the knockdown at the very least. This is a bad matchup for him though, it will be like Coleman all over again. If Randleman was smart he'd keep it standing in a fight with Nog. Randleman's boxing skills have been improving, and we obviously have seen the result of that against Cro Cop. Nog's stand up skills are really good, but I can't see him doing much with it since he probably can't finish a fight standing due to his passive style. I'd expect Fyodor to look more impressive in this, since his standup is much more effective. Kharitanov: Mini Fyodor, well not really, he's bigger. I expect him to be the worst for Fyodor due to the size and as a result would be harder to fight standing up. They came from the same camp, and from what I've seen their styles are very similar. This is ironically the worst matchup for Fyodor. I am unsure though of his skills on the ground, although they should be pretty damn good all things considered. Could Nog submit him? Probably, I'd say this one's in Nog's favour since he's got question mark written all over him, and the fact that he reminds me of Fyodor so much, but probably inferior. Who knows though. Schilt: Nog looked more impressive in this fight obviously. I doubt Fyodor would let it go to a decision again, this time he'd probably go for the submission victory if he could get it. That's an if though, so I will just give this edge to Nog too. So I guess 2-2? Well the deciding vote would be for when they faced each other, and I already explained that away so.... Fyodor is the spelling of Fyodor Dostoyevsky along with a bunch of other Russian people, so I assume it's correct. That's also how you pronounce it. I just chalk it up to "lack of professionalism" on the part of PRIDE when it comes to the spelling. Oh well, that's not WWE bush league. Chris Benoit from Atlanta? Suuuuure. Well that was a long fucking post.

Oh, and I'd like to know the background of this pic. *Why* are they all wearing Wu Tang shirts?

No, the Middle Eastern one with Shaggy's haircut. He's clearly not middle eastern, but some people just try to hard to be PC and it shows. He's brown, whatever. The little girl is the most hardcore of the group. Yes, let's debate the ethnicity of a 13 year old in the background of some photo Inc posted as a joke in NHB. You suck, dude. You pointed it out, I just corrected you. I don't really care. And you're wrong either way; the little girl is quite clearly the badass of this bunch.

The majority I read have placed Fyodor, but whatever. This is the point; whose more dominant now? Fyodor. Whose won their last bout? Fyodor. Whose just taken out the returning GP Champion? Fyodor took the title of being the Number One Heavyweight in the world when he beat Noguiera. He hasn't lost it since, and no matter what you think *might* happen, the bottom line is that right now, he's number one. Does that mean he's better than Noguiera? I don't know, let's see the inevitable rematch in the finals. I think Noguiera could win, but he *hasn't* yet. Like I said, until that happens, Fyodor is number one. Trust me, Nog's my favourite fighter, but he's a clear Number Two right now. Look at it this way; Fyodor has nothing to prove by winning, it's just a nice statistic. Noguiera DOES have something to prove, he still has to prove that he can submit Fyodor. Fyodor already beat the shit out of him. We're talking about the NOW after all. I'll leave you with this nifty little interview bit right here: Pride : Everyone at the Grand Prix will be after you, the Champion. Did you feel that at the press conference? Fedor : Really? I didn't feel that at all. (laughing) Pride : Nogueira looks like he's thinking “I want to beat you in a rematch” whenever he looks at you. Fedor : He looked nervous at the press conference. Thanks for telling me why. (laughing)

No, the Middle Eastern one with Shaggy's haircut. He's clearly not middle eastern, but some people just try to hard to be PC and it shows. He's brown, whatever. The little girl is the most hardcore of the group.

Well, Morrissey said he wished Bush died instead of Reagan. The audience cheered. Thank God fans of shitty music are such utter shitheads politically, too. -=Mike Where/when was this? If you think Morrissey's music is shitty, well then you suck. A lot. His Dublin show this week. And he sucks. Hard. -=Mike Boo-urns to you. Morrissey Is God.... ....should be here any minute to tell you why Morrissey is really good. But I don't want to turn this into a music discussion, so I will just point out that Ronald Reagan was a damn good president. Where would you guys rank him among the presidents of the twentieth century?

Well, Morrissey said he wished Bush died instead of Reagan. The audience cheered. Thank God fans of shitty music are such utter shitheads politically, too. -=Mike Where/when was this? If you think Morrissey's music is shitty, well then you suck. A lot.

Where are they now? Seriously. I want to know, if you know anyway.

WHO did you say was the favourite to win? I think you should rephrase. While it's a failure if he comes in less than first, Noguiera's certainly not the top dog, and really is expected by most to come in second. There's no doubt in my mind he wins this fight though. There's no question that Fyodor is the odds-on favourite. One particular person might think he could lose, but the fact remains that when you look at it based on performance, he's the favourite. I hope Noguiera beats him though.

I didn't think I had to put in an disclaimer or such, but yeah, the band/artist/whatever should be held in high regard by people who have opinions that are actually respected. Don't bring up Coldplay, Metallica, Kiss or something like that where no one in their right mind would actually give an album by any of these three *****. Okay, I know this is not specific or anything and I haven't really heard them praised elsewhere, but I know on this board I've heard plenty of good things about them (lead singer is in some guy's sig), but I can't stand any of the Faith No More that I've heard. I also don't get the big deal about Mike Patton. He can't rap, and his voice is amazingly nasal and annoying. I hate them, and I hate him too. I know that's technically not what I was talking about, but I just had to bring it up due to the sheer praise this guy gets.

Well this is relevant.

If suicide is illegal, then how would they charge you, seeing as how you're dead?

Why would you - .....no, never mind. I don't EVEN want to hear your rationalization. Jesus Christ, you people are dense. I just said that it saved the world from being run by a race of crazy aryans, right after Mike justified going in (not that you'd need to). I thought that this would show where my stance was on the issue (not that it should even be an issue) and I was just mocking Spiny by exaggerating and ignoring the fact that the world was saved and..ugh, never mind. Hell, I even agreed with HMW when he implied that the US should have gone in earlier, with the "burn" comment. I wonder how low the opinion of me is in this folder that most people would think I was being serious by making such an obviously stupid statement. I don't post in here nearly enough to gain such a reputation. That quote sounds weird, I'd have capitalized HEAR myself.

spiny, it saved European Jews from total extinction. -=Mike and the rest of the world from being dominated by a race of crazy aryans. It wasn't good or anything though. In hindsight we probably shouldn't have gone in.

...so basically, if you liked things more similar to agent, you and agent would like more similar things. There are many different types of metal and all that, but this was funny anyway. I was putting out slow moving flames while watching the Tampa Bay Lightning put out the Calgary Flames and I was also shedding the reputation of being a flamer myself, all the while listening to In Flames. Nah, it was Morrissey. The new album is pretty damned good.