Your Paragon of Virtue

All your posts and threads seem to have you asking a bunch of people to identify something for you. -1000 Movie Snob pts. Seriously though, I don't know.

Good thread.

I was always under the impression that the south park guys did do it, and that they couldn't have been that angry at him considering Stone volunteered to give an interview in the movie.

My first semester at college, I was in almost the exact same situation as Kal would be here. Believe me, there isn't anything funny about it. Same here...I think everyone has had some sort of variation of that theme and it isn't funny. You need to make some changes to the Jeffrey character. You guys both seem pretty lame, but hey, I could be wrong. Could you please expand on why Jeffrey made college hell for y'all? For the record, I was nothing like the jeffrey character.

I'm picking Nate, but like I said I'm unsure about his cardio. After seeing the Doerksen fight though I think he should be okay. I'd argue that Doerksen has a more active guard and better wrestling than Silva, and while Nate struggled he still came out on top. I was surprised at how big he was too, but Anderson himself is a bigger MW than people realize.

After living in Québec for the past couple of years, I can safely say fuck whatever sort of poutine McDonalds would try to give out.

If you are looking for your helping of vegetables from a fast food burger, you need to go elsewhere. Either that or you are just trying to ask one of those rhetorical questions where you lament the state of the country and their health problems. Which in this case, you should just shut the fuck up because no one wants to hear it. I will not be eating this anyway, odds are it will be very watered down compared to what you can get at a local joint. 1500 calories and 100 grams of fat...FACK

Let's not forget cardio, that's one of the main reasons why I think Nate might lose a fight to Silva, I don't know if he can handle the pace of a five round fight with a guy who is willing to constantly push it.

Fuck Forrest. I hope he fights Machida soon enough, I wanna see him get KO'ed, than cry, again.

This Saturday? Finale is next Saturday. UFC 72 is this Saturday, scheduled at 12 pm oddly enough. Well I know it's because it is in Ireland, but still. I guess they wanna air it live. The more I think about it, the more I realize that this PPV has so many things going against it, and this will probably show what the absolute worst buyrate Zuffa can do. Bad card, horrible time, it's almost like they're stacking the deck against themselves just to see how low they can go.

This show just sinks down even further.

Explain why Gray gassed so fast at the beginning of the 2nd round then, if he wasn't being worked extra hard in the 1st? I STILL don't see how you can say he was getting his ass 'whooped'. He got hit -solidly- twice. One on an elbow, and one on a nice looping right while he was in the middle of a sweep. And how can you say those punches weren't effective at all, because they sure slowed down Gray when he threw them. There is a big difference between crappy strikes from guard (which I've seen plenty of) and the ones that Nate threw in two series of strikes (Not all of them, but there were two series where he threw a combination of nice upstrikes). And working your opponent over for submissions can use HIS energy up, and also will put you in good position. If he wasn't constantly looking for submissions, he wouldn't have gotten the position advantage in the early second round, and Gray may not have hurried so much to defend a nonexistant leglock, if he hadn't kept trying them in the first round. And Diaz always has his hands like that. He STARTED the fight like that. But at the end of the day if you JUST score a round based on 'damage' then it doesn't really reward people for attempting submissions and maintaining control of a fight and TRYING TO FINISH THE FIGHT. And as a -judge- and in -judging- a round, you're supposed to judge who won the fight, based on a variety of factors. Damage isn't even one of those factors, actually, though it surely can play a part. And if those strikes really 'slowed' him down, why wasn't gray able to maintain control at ANY point in the fight, and why was Diaz able to constantly apply submissions entirely unaffected. Damage, to me, means you impede the other persons ability to fight. Please tell me where I said submission attemps were not important, or where I said damage was the only thing that mattered. I didn't even imply that. There's a whole lot of arguing over nothing in this post. Most of your post is arguing stuff I didn't even say. He won the round because he threw him to the ground, maintained position, avoided submissions, most of which weren't close, and pounded Diaz' face. I'm not impressed at all with Diaz, other than his heart and toughness, and he should get steamrolled by Manny, as this is a DREAM match-up for a power grappler with good control and sub defense like Gamburyan. Diaz' only chance is to slip out and take Manny's back, or hope he makes a mistake and capitalizes, as Manny had this happen twice to him by lesser grapplers than Diaz. But Diaz' wrestling is shit, and he can't defend his face on the ground very well, so he should lose a decision as he is tough to finish. Gray was tired because he's an MMA noob who is not used to fighting. Also, the submission attempts wore him down, which is why he was tired and tapped out eventually, that guillotine wasn't even all the way in, or from a full guard. He was gassed. But causing your opponent to tire doesn't mean you're winning a fight. Tito Ortiz lost to Frank Shamrock that way, but that doesn't mean he lost the rounds where that happened. Diaz lobbed his jabs and punches, he was hurt from all the damage he took. Watch it again after they get up. Gray also ragdolled Diaz to the ground, that is important as well. You're telling me what they're supposed to judge the fight on? What makes you an authority? I'm going by what the UFC's criteria is, and it's pretty clear Gray won. In many organizations Gray wins that round, not just the UFC. Dana White is trying to push certain fighters, so of course he's going to completely discount Gray's work. I'm also going by what I personally think, which happens to agree with the UFC on this case, though it doesn't always like in the case of Charuto vs. Hughes. Speaking of which, these submission attemps in the first round weren't that close apart from the armbar, and maybe one of the kimura's. Close submissions are Charuto-Hughes, Hughes-Newton, Karo-GSP, Newton-Pele (the first armbar), or Fitch-Roan with that anaconda choke. I've gotten subs at that point against guys and I don't feel they're close at all. They do a standard defense or escape and they're out. Close submissions are when standard defenses and escapes don't work, Gray did some basic stuff there to escape. Maybe getting his ass whooped is a little strong, but he definitely lost that round and I don't see how anyone could give him the round.

Umm. He got cut once...hit like twice. If you watch closely, his strikes from the bottom were MUCH more precise than any of Gray's from the top. He attempted about 15 different submissions. MMA isn't just about 'getting beat up'. It's about controlling the fight and attempting to win. I could give that round to Diaz no problem, in fact I'd be remiss to EVER give that round to Gray, because he got one decent elbow in, that didn't slow Diaz down at all? No way. If you think he got hit twice then I'm not going to bother. Watch it again. Bottom line is MMA is a fight, if I'm getting my ass whooped but I'm throwing up subs and none of them are causing the tap, I'm not gonna feel like I won the round. I'd feel embarrassed that I did all that work and made no effect on my opponent, while I have a bunch of bruises and cuts on my face. The strikes from the bottom were not as effective, they look nice, but really don't hurt that much compared to how much damage was done from top. If you don't think that slowed down Diaz then you should explain why after they stood up he was lobbing those jabs and couldn't keep his hands up. He was hurt.

10-9 Gray, no way can you give that first round to Diaz when he's getting beaten up like that.

If you don't buy this card, it doesn't mean you're broke. But if you do buy it, it's a sign that you probably will be soon since you just love throwing your money away.

Maybe, but a great main event and an interesting fight doesn't make a good card. That's why it needs something else. TUF 3 Grudge match is also something I'm not that interested in, considering that Hamill hasn't progressed nearly as well as guys like Evans and Koscheck have. I was happy they put that fight off because I wanted Hamill to develop into something before he faced Bisping like the other "Wrestling Stud" TUF alumni.

If you know where to look you can catch them a couple of hours right after.

Card looks pretty weak aside from the main event, it looks like they're pandering too much to the Europe crowd. Throw in a contender's bout, say, Fitch vs. Karo, and I won't complain.

From Sherdog. I hope all of you that called be a moron/crazy for thinking Wanderlei may have carried Yoshida to not make him look so bad, are open to the idea of something fishy going on. Let the speculation begin. This seriously dampens the credibility of PRIDE as an organization by the way, as if they didn't already fuck themselves over enough as far as legitimacy was concerned.

Also keep in mind that Jackson would have had to have been choked out to gotten the bonus, tapping is out of the question. The Japanese probably would have wanted to see Sakuraba put to sleep the evil American black monster, or something.

You sound more pretentious here than most of these Tool fans do. First concert was the Pixies reunion tour a couple of years back. Fucking awesome. Since then I've just seen a bunch of indie bands that have travelled through Montreal.

Nobody's acting bitchy. You're the bitch for not owning up and admitting you were completely *wrong* about that fight, while dancing around this "boring" fighter comment. He did everything you accused him of not doing, in the fight that you said he didn't do it in. It's okay to admit you're wrong sometimes you know.

You're fucking kidding right?

Ha, Lei's wrath killed the folder. Seriously though, if you call passing guard, gaining mount and then taking the back "humping" your way to victory, than maybe you need to watch another sport.

Are people forgetting about the truce? Tony wasn't going to die, it was agreed upon during that meeting. You could argue that they would break it, but that wouldn't make sense since those guys wanted things to end and wanted to reach out, so why would they kill Tony? The big suspense was really about the trial. The ending I expected, and would have been satisfied with, was him just enjoying some time with family, kind of like the first half of season six. They kind of had that, but that bullshit with the black screen leads me to believe they want people to think he died, for no reason at all. I don't like these trick endings, it's a copout. And no, I didn't need or expect a bloody, overly dramatic finish, so don't bring that up. Let's just be clear that the best season was two, as it had the most buildup and best blowoffs for all their storylines. Why would they depart from that? Seeing the Shah of Iran die in absolutely the most humiliating way possible was awesome as well, one of the best moments of the show. I really hated him after the whole Vito incident.