Your Paragon of Virtue

They are encouraged not to give draws, so that's unlikely. But I don't know why Forrest was surprised that the 30-27 went to Tito. Due to the first round, I could justify 30-27 more easily for Tito than Forrest. It was still wrong though. I would say it was a 29-27 or maybe 28. The first round really was that dominating. I think the point of what he said was that if you have judges that fuck up a fight like that, eventually it will come back to bite them in the ass and they will really screw up a decision.

I would do it, but there is nothing I can play from most genres that you won't get from someone else on here who knows more about them than I do. Except maybe all kinds of dance music, though even Kotzenjunge would give me a run for my money there.

I fully expect to see Truth commercials telling me not to shovel my driveway now.

Awesome.

Loiseau is training with Tito and all the boys in Team Ortiz or whatever it's called now, down in California. I never heard anything about this fight, but if he's training with a star-studded team like that he must be preparing for a serious fight, so I expect this to be announced soon. This partnering makes sense given the fact that Dave recently signed on with Tito's manager.

I don't think Silva can be cut or KO'ed and I know he will get taken down against Loiseau. I wanna see how long he can survive the murderous elbows. That would be a fucking sick fight. I predict violence.

He hasn't fought in the UFC yet, hence why he's not a part of my mental rolodex of fighters. You can just as easily fit him anywhere in there, which is kinda the point.

That's the thing about the middleweight division, and what it's got that the welterweight division does not. Each guy in the top ten can beat most of the others on most days, save for a few notable exceptions. In general, I can just as easily see Leben beating Franklin as I can seeing Terrell beating Leben as I can seeing Riggs beat Terrell as I can see Tanner beat Riggs as I can see Marquardt beat Tanner as I can see Loiseau beat Marquardt as I can see Franklin beating Loiseau, which happened. The WW division is also loaded with talent, but the guys at the top are just that much better. Depends on what you prefer.

Everyone does look good against Big Nog though, I can't argue with that. Dan Henderson having a lot of overrated fights? Well you'll have to specify because I don't know how people look at them. I never hear anyone nominating him for fighter of the year or any of his fights for fight of the year. But until his last bout he has consistently put out good fights.

With another year of training Sapp could beat Fedor in two seconds. In all honesty, pull Karelin out of Parliament and he wipes the floor with Bob Sapp.

That...happened?

The welterweight division has American Top Team standout Thiago Alves. The middleweight division has American Top Team dropout Thiago (Conc)alves

I thoguht the Ogawa fight was a work too, but I still say Hunt deeserved the decision. He was constantly pushing the action and damaged Cro Cop more than he damaged Hunt. The high kick was nice, but in the end it didn't really do as much hurting as what Hunt did to Cro Cop.

It's gotten deep enough to the point where we don't need to bring up Fickett or Diaz or Lytle or the other guys that routinely come in and put on a good show.

Judo guys haven't done as well as BJJ guys in MMA traditionally. I mean any place that has emphasis on ground fighting naturally would be good enough, but the problem is that most judo clubs do not. Karo is a good example of that not being the case though. He's come closer to catching matt Serra than anyone else in MMA, though Karo comes close to catching everybody.

Compared with the MW Division, that has TRAVIS LOOOOOOOOOOOOTERRRRRRRRRRRRR

KAUUUUUUUUS CHEHHHHHHHHHHHHCK

Oddly enough, the fact that they found Vitor's sister, or at least what happened to her, kind of makes me think Vitor will have closure in his life and be able to fight like he did against Eastman. We'll see.

Where'd you read that? That sounds pretty stupid. Anyways I disagree, the UFC WW division is still better I think. They are similar, since both have a multitude of prospects and good fighters. They both have a large amount of guys to change around, but at least the WW division has bigger stars, in the sense that they are truly dominant. There is a set hierarchy in the UFC WW division, which makes it more important. You will never get a Hogan/Andre type match like you would in the UFC WW division. A rematch between two guys where everyone thinks the second match will go differently. Some say that time was running out in the first round, and that submission would not happen again. That he wasn't properly prepared the first time, and that this time he will smash his opponent. Some still say that they are the two P4P best fighters on the planet, and hopefully when they fight all questions will be answered. Thought I was talking about GSP-Hughes II? I was referring to Hughes-Penn II. THAT is why it's the best. The UFC WW division, where only the storylines are deeper than the talent.

Okay never mind about Vitor in the OWGP.

I'd be very interested in Belfort/Silva, but I wanted to see Coleman or Baroni fight Silva as well.

Btw, I'm gonna be in Toronto by the time this card comes around, so if anyone in the GTA feels like having a TSM get together at someone's house or going to a local bar that's showing it, we should do it up. That is, if you're comfortable enough to meet a bunch of strangers from the internet.

I wasn't really crying about the Arlovski fight. But there has been enough MMAos this year to justify picking Royce in this fight. However, I believe the amount of karma swinging Royce' way will turn the MMAos back to normal, and things will go the way they should...in the form of an epic beating.

I don't know about that, I mean most fighters at the top of the list these days are more standup grapplers aka wrestlers. Fedor is more of a standup grappler than a submission guy on the ground. Ditto for Chuck, and Shogun wants to keep the fight on the feet most of the time. Matt Hughes and GSP are more wrestlers than pure BJJ guys. Same goes for most of the LW.

I'd say wrestling is most important to study. A wrestler with a little bit of submission training is more likely to be successful than the opposite.