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Al could probably explain it better than I can but the simple explanation of it is putting a number on the contribution of an individual player to it's team. It's based on the number of wins a team has and a Win Share is one third of each individual win. If a team wins 90 games, they have 270 Win Shares to distribute to the players. In at least in the baseball version a player with 20 Win Shares would be considered to have an All-Star calibar season, a player 30 Win Shares to have an MVP type season. I'm not sure if that is the same case with the basketball version but it basically applies the same concepts as the guy who came up with it admits to just trying to emulate the Bill James' baseball version and apply it to basketball.

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No just their history as the Clippers, incidently enough the basketball version of Win Shares only goes back to the '77-'78 season so wouldn't have been able to include all the Braves seasons. McAdoo won the three straight scoring titles with the Braves from '74 to '76.

Hey my high school ranked 293rd, not that it did anything for me.

Vern/Culloden asked to do a redo on this one so I'll put off the 1995 A.L. MVP for another day. 1989 is kind of an interesting year to examine, and hey my favorite sporting year, as Robin Yount won the MVP which I can remember at the time being surprised. Ruben Sierra was the hot young superstar of the moment and he broke out with a great year at age 23 and I always figured he should have won it, without every actually looking to deeply into the issue. When I'm trying to find an interesting year to do a redo on the first thing I always check are Win Shares. If a player led the league in Win Shares and won the MVP he had to have been at the very least deserving of serious consideration. I had glanced at 1989 before and Yount tied with Sierra for the lead Win Shares so that's partly why I haven't bothered. But there was no clear choice that season, six different players received first place votes, and the Brewers were only a .500 team and the Rangers won 83 games. Usually in a year like this when there is no clear choice it can open the door for an undeserving player on a division winner to steal the award but that wasn't the case. It was a very weak year for offense and is the last time the A.L. homerun leader had fewer than 40 homeruns (Fred McGriff, 36). The other four players to receive first place votes are an interesting group, due to none of them deserving any serious consideration. Cal Ripken finished 3rd on a the surprise team of the A.L. that season. Baltimore had come off their infamous 107 loss season and started year with a staggering 0-21 start, a record that might never be broken. The rebounded in '89 with a shocking run at the A.L. East title coming up just two games short of the Blue Jays. But even Ripken's writer friendly numbers (.264 avg, 21 hr, 84 rbi) hardly screamed MVP even in a weak year for offense. Fourth and fifth place went to players on the division winning teams. George Bell received four first place votes even though his teammate McGriff had a far superior year. Dennis Eckersley was next and I don't need to repeat my argument about closers. Eckersley had a stint on the DL and only threw 58 innings although was of course his dominant self when healthy. The last player to receive a first place vote was Eck's teammate Carney Lansford. What was so interesting about this was Lansford finished 17th in the voting so he appeared on hardly any ballots at all yet someone gave him a first place vote. He actually had a very good year, not MVP calibar mind you but hey may have deserved passing consideration for a 10th place vote. In a year without much offense and no clear choice among the players you would think a pitcher could emerge as the MVP and there was a very interesting candidate out there. Bret Saberhagen won the Cy Young, receiving all but one first place vote, and finished 8th in the MVP voting. With a 23-6 record, 2.16 ERA, and throw in playing on a Royals team that won 92 games I have to say I'm surprised he didn't receive more support from the writers. One last note about the voting, this season had possibly the worst player (in terms of the season they had) to receive an MVP vote ever. Someone gave Mookie Wilson a 10th place vote, who had been acquired by the Blue Jays from the Mets at the trade deadline. Even a truly great player shouldn't garner an MVP vote if they were in the league for just the final two months of the season. In 247 plate appearances Wilson put up a .298/.311/.370 line. I'm sure he probably had a couple of "clutch" hits down the stretch which I'm assuming swayed some idiot writer to give him a spot on his ballot. Actual Results 1) Robin Yount 2) Ruben Sierra 3) Cal Ripken 4) George Bell 5) Dennis Eckersley 6) Fred McGriff 7) Kirby Puckett 8) Bret Saberhagen 9) Rickey Henderson 10) Bo Jackson 11) Dave Parker 12) Gregg Olson 13) Bert Blyleven 14) Dave Stewart 15) Don Mattingly 16) Joe Carter 17) Carney Lansford 18) Nick Esasky 19) Tony Fernandez 20) Mike Moore 21t) Wade Boggs 21t) Steve Sax 23t) Alvin Davis 23t) Nolan Ryan 25t) Chilli Davis 25t) Mark McGwire 25t) Mookie Wilson #10 140 ERA+, 2.98 K/BB, 1.12 WHIP, 65.0 VORP, 22 Win Shares #9 .315/.379/.439, 103 RC, 132 OPS+, .307 EQA, 53.7 VORP, 27 Win Shares #8 .305/.424/.496, 104 RC, 156 OPS+, .335 EQA, 51.8 VORP, 26 Win Shares #7 .339/.379/.465, 112 RC, 131 OPS+, .306 EQA, 59.0 VORP, 27 Win Shares #6 .274/.411/.399, 89 RC, 133 OPS+, .325 EQA, 50.9 VORP, 30 Win Shares #5 .330/.430/.449, 120 RC, 143 OPS+, .324 EQA, 62.5 VORP, 29 Win Shares #4 .269/.399/.525, 115 RC, 161 OPS+, .335 EQA, 53.9 VORP, 30 Win Shares #3 .306/.347/.543, 120 RC, 146 OPS+, .314 EQA, 58.8 VORP, 34 Win Shares #2 178 ERA+, 4.49 K/BB, 0.96 WHIP, 79.5 VORP, 28 Win Shares #1 .318/.384/.511, 120 RC, 152 OPS+, .326 EQA, 75.8 VORP, 34 Win Shares There you have it, Robin Yount was the best choice and in a year with no run away winner the writers actually picked the right guy. Any of the Top 4 would have been fine choices and I shuffled 2 thru 4 a couple of times before settling on it.

Starting with the Heisman we know that winning college awards has no barring on where you are drafted and how succesful you are in the NFL. That being said Eslinger is the lowest an Outland Trophy winner has been drafted since Aaaron Taylor (Nebraska) was in the 7th round by the Colts in 1998. He never played a regular season game. The knock on Eslinger is he isn't big enough which always makes me giggle when we're talking about a 285 lbs. man but that's the way it is.

I mentioned it my last entry that I was running out of Redo ideas in my lifetime and then I realized I skipped over an obvious one in the 1995 A.L. MVP. I can't believe I missed it because I did the 1995 N.L. MVP already and it also gives me an opportunity to reminisce about one of the worst ideas since New Coke. Edit: I've decided to do the 1995 A.L. MVP redo in a seperate entry that I'll do in the next day or two and leave this as an entry on it's own. As I already mentioned on the redo of the 1995 N.L. MVP, we came incredibly close to replacement/scab players starting the season as the strike was still going in March. Although that embarassment was avoided for baseball another would pop up that October. The previous season a national television deal split between ABC and NBC had started which was called The Baseball Network. The name was purely for marketing reasons as there was no actual Baseball Network as all it was is ABC and NBC, I believe on a rotating basis, would have a Friday Night primetime game every week after the All-Star Break. Now there was no feature game as everyone just got a local game which the broadcast team being split between to local announcers of the two teams. It seemed very odd as what was the point of having a national game of the week if all you received was a local game? But the presentation of the games was inoffensive and I suppose it was nice to watch a local game with a national feel to it. The strike of course ended the 1994 season and there was no postseason to cover. The Baseball Network deal was still in place for 1995 and it was the same coverage for the regular season. But then came the postseason.... 1995 was the first year that the new expanded playoffs would be used with the new five game divisonal round. The format for it initially was a nightmare as someone thought it was a good idea to pre-determine what divisions would play each other and what division would play the wild card team in the divisional rather than basing it on record. So for example in the A.L., the Mariners played the wild card Yankees despite having the worst record of the divison winners while the two best teams in the league, the Indians and Red Sox, were forced to play each other in the divisional playoffs. Then for the five game series they decided to go with the awful 2-3 format where the team with homefield would actually start the series on the road and then go home for three games if necessary. But now onto the actual coverage of the playoffs. They decided that one network would host the entire divison round and then would switch to the other network for the league championship series. This seemed odd and unecessary and of course created an fairly obvious problem, as in how would they televise the entire division series on one network? The brilliant plan the came up with was schedule all four games at the same exact time, 8PM EST/5PM PST, and only provide a regional telecast. You have to stand in awe of the stupidity of this. The NBA could televise every single playoff game of a 16 team first round yet MLB could only figure out how to televise one game a night. So me being California I only was able to see the Dodgers/Reds series for the first three nights of the playoffs and nothing else. Now I know what your thinking, or if you've forgotten, "now there's no way they did this for the league championships, right?" They did. The Reds/Braves and Mariners/Indians league championships series would be played at the exact same time, every night and the country would be split between them. I'm not even sure how they handled the Reds and Indians coverage. Can you imagine being an life long Indians fan, a franchise playing in it's first ever ALCS, living in Cincinnati and not being able to watch the game? Thankfully The Baseball Network deal was only for two years and in 1996 a new deal started with Fox televising regular season games and then splitting the postseason with NBC. All division series games were televised but unfortunently we've been stuck with Fox ever since. But when we whine about the awful coverage of Fox or the fiasco with games being put on Fx and ABC Family channel in the past, just remember for one year it was much, much worse.

Not necessarily as the season ticket holders for the Clippers will have the seats for the Clippers "home" games of the series. I can't stand Kobe or the Lakers but I do have this perverse need to see a Clippers/Lakers playoff series just from that odd atmosphere of playing an entire series on the same floor.

So people know what the above link was about: Okay this is when the NCAA investigation goes overboard. Seriously who the fuck cares?

49ers wasting a 4th round pick on Michael Robinson is really stupid. They already drafted a "slash" in Rasheed Marshall last year. There were doubts Robinson would even be drafted.

I don't know why the set the All-Star Game ballot before the season even starts. They left Nick Swisher off the ballot, not that he'd get voted a starter and not that I'm certain he'll hit like Lance Berkman all season but if they'd actually bothered to check the A's depth chart they would have known he'd be an everyday player. Rocco Baldelli is on the ballot for crying out loud. Just noticed they stuck David Ortiz and Travis Hafner on the ballot under first base since there's no DH. I'd say Ortiz will probably be voted the starter. Anyways here's April's All-Stars, completely meaningless picks, for players actually on the ballot, and I'm not actually voting. A.L. C: Victor Martinez 1B: Chris Shelton 2B: Brian Roberts 3B: Eric Chavez SS: Miguel Tejada OF: Vernon Wells, Jermaine Dye, Garret Anderson N.L. C: Brad Ausmus (yup he'll have a near .500 OBP all year) 1B: Albert Pujols 2B: Jose Vidro 3B: Morgan Ensberg SS: Omar Vizquel OF: Carlos Lee, Andruw Jones, Adam Dunn The catcher position in the N.L. is just ugly. Piazza probably gets voted a starter again.

Torii Hunter at $10.75 million and Brade Radke at $9 million are pretty much it although both were overpriced for past performance and being long term players with the franchise. I'm still kind of surprised they didn't trade Hunter this past offseason.

Anyone just catch Reggie Evans reaching under and grabbing Kaman's balls?

Kazuhiro Sasaki, 13 saves in April 2001 Todd Worrell holds the rookie single season record with 36 in 1986.

You know I was going to do a "Steve Howe Memories" entry and just post the lyrics to "White Lines" but thought better of it. I needed to do something to keep me from punching a wall thinking about the A's sinking $22 million Esteban Loaiza so might as well do a redo. I've been trying to find a year with a truly bad choice for MVP and with the best choice receiving little support and I'm kinda running out of examples in my lifetime so picked out an old one. 1974 was a historic year as Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's career homerun record, Lou Brock stole a then record 118 bases, and hey the A's won their third consecutive World Series. The Dodgers paced the National League with 102 wins and their young first baseman Steve Garvey took home the MVP despite not even being the best player on the team. Now you may say it would be unfair to pick apart an older MVP choice as stats such as Win Shares and VORP were a long way from being known and batting average was still considered the best stat to identify a good hitter by the general public. And I say "fuck you", hindsight is a wonderful tool. Garvey won the award due to having a high average, finishing 3rd in the leauge in RBI, and playing on the best team in the league. But one big mark against Garvey through out his career as he didn't get on base at a very good rate and in '74 he didn't crack the Top 30 in OBP in the league. He was one of three Dodgers to finish in the Top 5 in the voting. Reliever Mike Marshall pitched in a record 106 games, throwing 208 innings, finished 3rd (also win Cy Young) and the always underrated Jimmy Wynn finished 5th. Wynn really played in the wrong era as he'd be much better appreciated now with his good power and great ability to draw walks. Marshall likley received so much support due to the insane number of apperances he made but he also wasn't the best pitcher on the Dodgers, that being Andy Messersmith. Even with his incredible workload as a reliever he only finished tied for 5th on the team in Win Shares. Brock's record stolen base record resulted in him getting a 2nd place finish and was the only real competitor to Garvey in the voting as he received eight first place votes. Like Garvey though he wasn't the best player on his team as ex-Red Sox and future Dodger Reggie Smith was. In fact Brock was probably a worse 2nd place choice than Garvey was a 1st place choice. The great Johnny Bench and a young Mike Schmidt received solid support but no first place votes. Actual Results 1) Steve Garvey 2) Lou Brock 3) Mike Marshall 4) Johnny Bench 5) Jimmy Wynn 6) Mike Schmidt 7) Al Oliver 8) Joe Morgan 9) Richie Zisk 10) Willie Stargell 11) Reggie Smith 12) Ralph Garr 13) Ted Simmons 14) Dave Cash 15) Dave Concepcion 16t) Jack Billingham 16t) Cesar Cedeno 16t) Al Hrabosky 16t) Andy Messersmith 20) Buzz Capra 21t) Richie Hebner 21t) Blake McBride 21t) Lynn McGlothen 21t) Rennie Stennett 25t) Bill Buckner 25t) Ron Cey #10 .321/.358/.475, 104 RC, 136 OPS+, .301 EQA, 48.2 VORP, 26 Win Shares #9 132 ERA+, 2.35 K/BB, 1.10 WHIP, 67.8 VORP, 25 Win Shares #8 .353/.383/.503, 116 RC, 143 OPS+, .300 EQA, 50.7 VORP, 27 Win Shares #7 .309/.389/.528, 107 RC, 157 OPS+, .318 EQA, 51.1 VORP, 25 Win Shares #6 159 ERA+, 2.22 K/BB, 1.12 WHIP, 81.0 VORP, 28 Win Shares #5 .271/.387/.497, 105 RC, 151 OPS+, .314 EQA, 45.5 VORP, 32 Win Shares #4 .301/.407/.537, 110 RC, 168 OPS+, .331 EQA, 52.3 VORP, 29 Win Shares #3 .280/.363/.507, 114 RC, 143 OPS+, .306 EQA, 57.8 VORP, 34 Win Shares #2 .282/.395/.546, 122 RC, 158 OPS+, .318 EQA, 68.0 VORP, 39 Win Shares #1 .293/.427/.494, 108 RC, 159 OPS+, .336 EQA, 80.0 VORP, 37 Win Shares SMARTBALL~! Morgan didn't receive a whole lot of support but he would win the MVP the next two years but maybe it should have been three in a row. Garvey doesn't crack the Top 10 but he was always overrated. And the Mike Schmidt card is the greatest thing ever although I'm not sure how exciting that image would be in 3-D.

Esteban Loaiza tonight: 1+ IP, 4 H, 5 ER, 6 BB against the worst offense in the Majors. Once again Billy Beane's worst move to date. They are stuck with this sack of shit thru 2008. They had so many better, cheaper options for the #5 starter spot on the 40 man roster and they chose to sink $22 million on him.

Even though their coverage is better it does appear NFL Network will be no better than ESPN in terms of keeping up with the picks after the first round.

Yes we know he's crying because he has to play for the 49ers.

Matt just had the "I'm going to Arizona" look on his face. Damn I was hoping they'd take Leinart which would have guarenteed the 49ers Ferguson or Hawk. Now we know the Packers will take Hawk which means the 49ers end up with Vernon Davis. I think it's always a risky proposition to take a tight end this early in the draft.

Remember the NFL Network is televising the draft as well so if you want to avoid the train wreck of ESPN's coverage I'd switch.

Another year, another trip to the DL for Rich Harden this time with a back strain. All the talent in the world but he has yet to get through a season without going on the DL.

Going into Thursday's games Chicago, Milwaukee, Sacramento, Denver, and Memphis are all pretty much on the verge of elimination. Now they can still lose a game and not be eliminated but they'll have to pull off something that has only been done 11 times since 1984 when the NBA Playoffs expanded to 16 teams and that's comeback from 2 games to 0 to win a series. I need an excuse for an entry so here's a look back at those 11 series. 1987 Western Conference First Round #5 Golden State over #4 Utah, 3 games to 2 Game 1: Jazz 99, Warriors 85 Game 2: Jazz 103, Warriors 100 Game 3: Warriors 110, Jazz 95 Game 4: Warriors 98, Jazz 94 Game 5: Warriors 118, Jazz 113 You'd think as a Warriors fan I'd remember this series fondly but I have no memories of it because as a kid I was a bandwagon Lakers fan. The only thing I remember about the Warriors in the '87 playoffs was Sleepy Floyd's 51 point game against the Lakers in the West Semis, the Warriors only win in that series. 1990 Eastern Conference First Round #5 New York over #4 Boston, 3 games to 2 Game 1: Celtics 116, Knicks 105 Game 2: Celtics 157, Knicks 128 Game 3: Knicks 102, Celtics 99 Game 4: Knicks 135, Celtics 108 Game 5: Knicks 121, Celtics 114 I'd guess that no one thought the Knicks had a prayer after giving up 157 points in Game 2. Most impressive about the Knicks comeback was by beating Boston in the Game 5 they ended a personal 26 game losing streak at the Boston Garden. 1993 Western Conference First Round #1 Phoenix over #8 L.A. Lakers, 3 games to 2 Game 1: Lakers 107, Suns 103 Game 2: Lakers 86, Suns 81 Game 3: Suns 107, Lakers 102 Game 4: Suns 101, Lakers 86 Game 5: Suns 112, Lakers 104 Forgot about this series as the Lakers nearly swept the heavily favored Suns. Very controversial call in Game 5 on a Charles Barkley put back on an air ball where it appeared the shot clock may have expired that forced the game into overtime. 1993 Eastern Conference Finals #2 Chicago over #1 New York, 4 games to 2 Game 1: Knicks 98, Bulls 90 Game 2: Knicks 96, Bulls 91 Game 3: Bulls 103, Knicks 83 Game 4: Bulls 105, Knicks 95 Game 5: Bulls 97, Knicks 94 Game 6: Bulls 96, Knicks 88 Kincks seemed to determined to end the Bulls dynasty by taking the first two games but it was not meant to be in this the biggest series to have a 2-0 defecit erased. 1994 Western Conference First Round #8 Denver over #1 Seattle, 3 games to 2 Game 1: Sonics 106, Nuggets 82 Game 2: Sonics 97, Nuggets 87 Game 3: Nuggets 110, Sonics 93 Game 4: Nuggets 94, Sonics 85 Game 5: Nuggets 98, Sonics 94 The first eight seend to ever beat a one seed in the arguably the biggest upset in NBA Playoff history. I just seem to remember Robert Pack playing out of his mind in that series. 1994 Western Conference Semi-Finals #2 Houston over #3 Phoenix, 4 games to 3 Game 1: Suns 91, Rockets 87 Game 2: Suns 124, Rockets 117 Game 3: Rockets 118, Suns 102 Game 4: Rockets 107, Suns 96 Game 5: Rockets 109, Suns 86 Game 6: Suns 103, Rockets 89 Game 7: Rockets 104, Suns 94 Rockets were left for dead after losing the first two games at home against the defending West Champs. 1995 Western Conference Semi-Finals #6 Houston over #2 Phoenix, 4 games to 3 Game 1: Suns 103, Rockets 108 Game 2: Suns 118, Rockets 94 Game 3: Rockets 118, Suns 85 Game 4: Suns 114, Rockets 110 Game 5: Rockets 103, Suns 97 Game 6: Rockets 116, Suns 113 Game 7: Rockets 115, Suns 114 If you were a Suns fan circa 1995 you must have wanted to murder the entire Rockets team. This year's loss was even worse as they blew a 3-1 lead. 2001 Western Conference First Round #5 Dallas over #4 Utah, 3 games to 2 Game 1: Jazz 88, Mavericks 86 Game 2: Jazz 109, Mavericks 98 Game 3: Mavericks 94, Jazz 91 Game 4: Mavericks 107, Jazz 77 Game 5: Mavericks 84, Jazz 83 Mavs came back from 17 points down in Game 5 and won an a Calvin Booth lay up in the final seconds. 2004 Western Conference Semi-Finals #2 L.A. Lakers over #3 San Antonio, 4 games to 2 Game 1: Spurs 88, Lakers 78 Game 2: Spurs 95, Lakers 85 Game 3: Lakers 105, Spurs 81 Game 4: Lakers 98, Spurs 90 Game 5: Lakers 74, Spurs 73 Game 6: Lakers 88, Spurs 76 Everyone remembers the Derek Fisher basket in Game 5 in that awful, awful game. 2005 Eastern Conference First Round #5 Washington over #4 Chicago, 4 games to 2 Game 1: Bulls 103, Wizards 94 Game 2: Bulls 113, Wizards 103 Game 3: Wizards 117, Bulls 99 Game 4: Wizards 106, Bulls 99 Game 5: Wizards 112, Bulls 110 Game 6: Wizards 94, Bulls 91 Signature moment was of course Gilbert Arenas' buzzer beater in Game 5. 2005 Western Conference First round #4 Dallas over #5 Houston, 4 games to 3 Game 1: Rockets 98, Mavericks 96 Game 2: Rockets 113, Mavericks 111 Game 3: Mavericks 106, Rockets 102 Game 4: Mavericks 97, Rockets 93 Game 5: Mavericks 103, Rockets 100 Game 6: Rockets 101, Mavericks 83 Game 7: Mavericks 116, Rockets 76 The first five games were awesome, the last two not so much.

Before I go into the draftback with the current state of ESPN Classic, why not have a marathon of old drafts? Just edit down the first round of each draft to two hour blocks as I think it would be mildly interesting to see how each player was evaluated as they were drafted. It certainly can't be any less interesting than "classic" pool. What exactly constitutes classic pool anyways? Maybe a match where at the end a guy breaks his pool cue over the guy's head or any match with that hot asian chick. My guess though is that ESPN might not want to air those old drafts and show that Mel Kiper Jr. is really no better than your average draft prognosticater at predicting future success. Anyways just picked the '95 Draft at random and it features quite a few busts starting at #1. 1. Cincinnati - Ki-Jana Carter, RB, Penn State Hands down, the #1 rated player in the draft, can't miss, guarenteed star. But he injured his knee in the preseason and that pretty much doomed him for the rest of his career. 2. Jacksonville - Tony Boselli, T, USC Had the potential to be a future HOF but injuries plus a botched shoulder surgery ended his career early. Selected to five Pro Bowls. 3. Houston - Steve McNair, QB, Alcorn State Has put together a pretty good career and nearly won a Super Bowl. Injuries have slowed him down in recent years. 4. Washington - Michael Westbrook, WR, Colorado Big debate over who was the top receiver going into the draft, Westbrook or J.J. Stokes. Did it really matter in the end? One good season and that's about it. 5. Carolina - Kerry Collins, QB, Penn State Ocassinally has his moments but overall a dissapointing career. But hey he can drink any player in the league under the table. 6. St. Louis - Kevin Carter, DE, Florida Decent career, led the league with 17 sacks in 1999. 7. Philadelphia - Mike Mamula, DE, Boston College Probably the poster child for workout wonders who shoot up the draft board but then don't produce on the field. Played only five seasons. 8. Seattle - Joey Galloway, WR, Ohio State Although was highly rated, Seattle was crticized for taking him over Stokes. Has had to battle some injuries over the years but overall a fairly productive career. 9. N.Y. Jets - Kyle Brady, TE, Penn State This pick was of course a classic televised draft moment as every Jet fan in the audience wanted them to pick Warren Sapp and they were none too pleased when Brady's name was announced. Not bad numbers for a tight end but certainly not worth a Top 10 pick. 10. San Francisco - J.J. Stokes, WR, UCLA This was a pretty big deal at the time as the defending champs traded up to get the next Jerry Rice. So much for that. Never cracked 800 yards in a single season. 11. Minnesota - Derrick Alexander, DE, Florida State Another team that passed on Sapp. Five seasons. 20 sacks. Bust. 12. Tampa Bay - Warren Sapp, DT, Miami A positive drug test for marijuana (OMG, professional athletes smoke weed? No way!) dropped him in the draft and Tampa ended being the benefactor. Very good career, although massively overrated in recent years. 13. New Orelans - Mark Fields, LB, Washington State Pretty good career. 14. Buffalo - Ruben Brown, G, Pittsburgh Good pick, eight time Pro Bowl selection. 15. Indianapolis - Ellis Johnson, DT, Florida Solid career. 16. Philadelphia - Hugh Douglas, DE, Central State I suppose the Eagles wanted to make sure they got one good end out of this first round. Selected to three Pro Bowls. 17. N.Y. Giants - Tryone Wheatley, RB, Michigan Kiper had a big hard on for Wheatley but only put together one good season. 18. Oakland - Napolean Kaufman, RB, Washington Most felt the Raiders were reaching here. Not a workhorse by any means but when he touched the ball he could make big plays. Retired early to became a pastor. Loser. 19. Jacksonville - James Stewart, RB, Tennessee Decent back when healthy. 20. Detroit - Luther Elliss, DE, Utah Merely adequate. 21. Chicago - Rashaan Salaam, RB, Colorado Think Ricky Williams without the talent. A Heimsan Trophy bust? Never saw it coming. 22. Carolina - Tyrone Poole, CB, Fort Valley State Just an average corner. 23. New England - Ty Law, CB, Michigan Maybe a tad overrated but not too shabby of a pick here. Selected to four Pro Bowls. 24. Minnesota - Korey Stringer, T, Ohio State We know what happened here. 25. Miami - Billy Milner, T, Houston Shitty. Where else can you get in depth analysis like that? 26. Atlanta - Devin Bush, S, Florida State Unspectacular. 27. Pittsburgh - Mark Bruener, TE, Washington Very few catches but made his mark as a good blocking tight end. 28. Tampa Bay - Derrick Brooks, LB, Florida State Wow, what a first round by the Bucs. Potential future Hall of Famer. 29. Carolina - Blake Brockermeyer, T, Texas Decent and had a great lineman name. 30. Cleveland - Craig Powell, LB, Ohio State Played a whole three games with the Browns. 31. Kansas City - Trezelle Jenkins, T, Michigan Nine games in three years. Yikes. 32. Green Bay - Craig Newsome, CB, Arizona State Showed a lot of promise when his career started but a knee injury did him in. Other Players of Note 37. Washington - Cory Raymer, C, Wisconsin 38. St. Louis - Zach Wiegert, T, Nebraska 47. Arizona - Frank Sanders, WR, Auburn 48. Indianapolis - Ken Dilger, TE, Illinois 50. Philadelphia - Bobby Taylor, CB, Notre Dame 60. Pittsburgh - Kordell Stewart, QB, Colorado 74. New England - Curtis Martin, RB, Pittsburgh 79. Indianapolis - Zack Crockett, FB, Florida State 90. Green Bay - Antonio Freeman, WR, Virginia Tech 132. Carolina - Frank Garcia, G, Washington 181. Atlanta - Travis Hall, DT, BYU 192. Detroit - Cory Schlesinger, FB, Nebraska 196. Denver - Terrell Davis, RB, Georgia 206. N.Y. Giants - Charles Way, FB, Virginia 230. Green Bay - Adam Timmerman, G, South Dakota State

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That'd be the 1991 draft. They had the 15th, 16th, and 25th picks. Gatling was the first one and he was servicable. Then they drafted Victor Alexander who was just a big tub of lard. The last pick was Shaun Vandiver who never played a game in the NBA. Oh well not like Warriors draft picks ever workout and the ones that do usually leave under ugly circumstances (Chris Webber, Latrell Sprewell).