Adam

Robbie Lawler makes me laugh. Especially in the fights I've seen im lose where he's just gone for the big KO punch every time. Diaz taunting him at UFC 47 was great. I saw UFC 54 just after it aired, and immediately became a GSP fan even though I had no clue who anyone was, and out of all the fighters on that card I had only heard of Chuck Liddell from a story in a Samoa Joe/CM Punk shoot interview. Its fair to say that I've watched way, way more UFC in the last two months than wrestling. I think markness filled my mind when I saw Liddell beat Horn at 54, so much so that I became a fan of the guy for life. I'm a mark for him. I don't care. I dislike Tito, perhaps because I was always a Shamrock mark in high school when he was wrestling. I just bought one of Shamrock's books, Beyond the Lion's Den, which was fairly cool. UFC 40 was the second show I ever saw, and it once again greatly impressed me. That FSN special posted here made me watch Rich Franklin a whole lot more, and now I'm interested to know his path to the belt. I haven't seen much of Matt Hughes as yet, but what I have seen has been very impressive, and anyone that can come out to 'A Country Boy Can Survive' is alright by me. Plus, that Miletich fighting team is badass. Hughes, Horn and Sylvia? Fuck me thats strong. In your humble opinions, what will they book first, Hughes-GSP, or Hughes-Penn? Considering the hype that Penn got at UFC 56, I'd say they'd be best served to run a Franklin defense at UFC 58 along with GSP-Penn, with the winner fighting Hughes at UFC 60 for the belt in a co-main with Arlovski-Mir, providing he wins at 57 of course. With Hughes, GSP, Penn, Trigg and Sherk, they need to start building the Welterweight division up huge, like giving it Main Event slots. There are going to be some awesome fights coming up in the next few events, I think Dana White needs to show some faith in the drawing power of the division and start to build these guys like he has done with the Light Heavyweights. Also, where do they go after Liddell-Couture III? Who would fight the winner? The Light Heavyweight division, looking at UFC.tv, looks pretty weak apart from those two guys. Shamrock and Ortiz will be doing TUF3, Couture beat Van Arsdale at 54, and Forrest Griffin is probably another couple PPV victories away from a title match. I don't know the quality of fighters very well, obviously, but who is there?

I'm interested. Why do people hate Diaz?

But she wants us to. She wants us to sooooo bad. You can see that every time she comes into one of these threads Leena is just begging for one of us to bite. And some people do. The people that bite annoy me more than she does. Leena just enjoys being a bitch and having a permanently sandy vagina.

I can't really go into any more detail than a lot of the people here, so I'll just cover stuff in brief using categories already visited. First, ring work. Angle is, as has been noted, restricted by a particular style. However, I can think of more times where I've gone out of my way to see a Christopher Daniels match than times where I've really had to see a Kurt Angle match. My first experience of Daniels was the Triple Threat he had with Low Ki and American Dragon back at the first ROH show. I was blown away. Since then, his performances in ROH and TNA that I have seen far outdo Angle's. I just don't think Angle is physically able, or has the motivation that Daniels does. As for mic work and character, the current version of Kurt Angle infuriates me. HTQ gave the most accurate description of his promos that I can think of, that he's trying too hard to be Kurt Angle. The old dumbass Three I's heel was fantastic, and that morphed into the SmackDown Six heel Angle, which was also great. This current version is way too angry to be Kurt Angle. When I saw Kurt live back in 02, he impressed me. Daniels has never really changed. His promo this past week on Impact showed me that he can be consistent. The personas that he has created both here and in Japan have gotten over huge, and he's done it by himself. Angle had a marketing machine behind him when he first started. The Fallen Angel character got over because Daniels worked his ass off to make it what he thought it should be. Seeing Daniels wrestle Styles live is easily my favourite moment of this year, and the reaction I got from him during that match is something I'll never forget. He had the crowd in the palm of his hand for the entire thirty minutes, and they only did about 3 high spots in that time. A plancha, a missed BME, and something else. I'd like to add another perspective to the arguement. The question is 'who is better overall'. Well, I think you need to include the following. Who, out of Christopher Daniels and Kurt Angle, is better at being a professional wrestler? Now that might sound like a rephrasing of the question, but work with me here. Who handles the job better? Asking who is best should not just include who is best at performing their job, but who is best at managing their lifestyle? I think the answer here is clear. Daniels has been wrestling for ten years more than Angle. He has performed all over the world for that entire time. I'm sure he's travelled just as much as Kurt has. As far as I know, Daniels' home life is still in tact. I doubt he's on any major supplements, and I very much doubt that he is addicted to painkillers. Its clear that Christopher Daniels handles the job of being a professional wrestler better than Kurt Angle does. When I met Daniels, he seemed very much at ease with his role, very happy to be where he was, and very down to earth. I haven't met Kurt, so I can't comment on his demeanour to fans. Perhaps someone else can help out. I know that someone is now going to come in here and bring up the point of Kurt being in the spotlight all the time and being under pressure to perform all the time, but isn't Daniels as well? Isn't it the case in the Indies that you go out there, give it your all, and hope you get invited back? Kurt has guaranteed money. Daniels, for the first ten years of his career, did not. He had to justify his wage. So, its clear who my choice is. I'm interested to know any counter arguments you guys have.

Banky's just being hormonal.

Well wow, it must have jumped 20 votes in the last little bit, because it says 47-26 Daniels where I am.

Further enhances my opinion of Punk. Legend.

Or, if you want the Heel Cocky Champion addition, Cult of Personality.

Here's a new version. PK, change as you wish, but tell me what you think. We zip backstage to the office of GM Calvin Szechstein where said GM sits with a very agitated look on his face. He listens intently to the other end of the phone line, but he's about to burst at any moment. We see that the room has been very and thoroughly trashed; chairs are toppled over and a trash can sits on its side, contents strewn all over the floor. CALVIN WHY WASN'T I TOLD ABOUT THIS? HUH? Calvin stops, and the look on his face turns wilder. CALVIN IT WASN'T A PRIORITY? WELL WHAT THE *BLEEP* KIND OF BUSINESS ARE YOU RUNNING HERE YOU SHADY BASTARD WATTS? HUH? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE SCREWING ME OVER LIKE THAT AND MAKING ME LOOK LIKE A FOOL? We hear the door open and Calvin flinches a bit at the sound, but relaxes a bit as Stephen Joseph enters. Joseph briefly looks around at the mess before turning a chair upright and taking a seat. CALVIN SCREW YOU Watts. Screw. You. *THUMP* Calvin slams the phone down and looks across the desk at SJ, simply folding his arms and listening as Joseph begins. JOSEPH Redecorating? (Chuckles) No, seriously, I got your message to meet you here and I know what you want to talk about: there aren't any more worthy challengers for me to defend my title against, are there? I mean, you scraped the bottom of the barrel with Knight for Climax and, as you can see, the belt didn't go anywhere. (He reaches into his pocket) I happen to have a list here of some ideas that you...... CALVIN Stephen, right now, you'd best shut your mouth. I could strip you of that damn belt right now if I wanted to. Don't push me. I've already had to deal with a bunch of calls and e-mails from pissed off fans about what happened at Cimax and then I have to deal with an [i]extremely[/i] pissed off Peter Knight doing this "redecorating" job and screaming at me to fix this situation after what Axel did to screw it up. Now Watts calls me with more bullshit and......AARGH. He sweeps the phone off his desk, startling SJ a bit and causing him to flinch as it hits the floor. STEPHEN Oh what, now you have a little problem with Axel too, and you're going to take it out on me? CALVIN All I know is that, on our New Year's Day special, you have a rematch with Peter Knight, once again for the OAOAST World Heavyweght Championship. AND, if you decide to get someone else to interfere next week, you will LOSE the title and Peter Knight WILL be the NEW World Heavyweight Champion. That is all, you are dismissed. JOSEPH But....how the HELL is that fair? CALVIN I SAID you are DISMISSED. Get out of my office. Angrily, Joseph gets out of his chair, picking it up and flinging it against the wall before leaving.

COLE What a night it was last night guys, but hampered by the result of the Main Event. COACH What do you mean, it was great! Stephen is still the champion! CABOOSE I like Axel, and I like what he did to Stephen Joseph, but he cost Peter Knight the title, and from where I’m sitting, that just isn’t right. COLE Well, General Manager Calvin Szechstein has this time to discuss this very matter, as well as Axel’s punishment! "Three-two-one, I'M THE BOMB!" Electric Six’s “I’m the Bomb” begins blaring over the loudspeakers, and the crowd give it a healthy pop, as the General Manager makes his way out to the ring. COLE Calvin cannot be as happy as he looked earlier when he made that huge Tag Team Lethal Rumble announcement. He booked the Climax Pay Per View last night, and it was a hell of an event, but as we said, it was hampered by a Disqualification in the title match, with Stephen Joseph unfortunately retaining the belt. Flanked by OAOAST Security, Calvin Szechstein enters the ring, clipboard in one hand, microphone in the other. BUFFER Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome the GENERAL MANAGER of the One and ONLY Anglesault Thread… CAAAALLLLVVVIIIIINNN SSZEEECHSTEEEEEIIIINNNN!! CABOOSE So I’ve got ten bucks on Axel being suspended. COLE You’re on. “I’m the Bomb” dies down, and Calvin brings the microphone to his lips, causing the crowd to die down, and listen. CALVIN Last Sunday night, Climax, was the culmination of a great year for the OAOAST. We’ve had so many highlights, from the Lethal Rumble at the start of the year, to AngleMania, to Tables, Ladders and Chairs, to yours truly being appointed General Manager. Overall, 2005 has been one hell of a year for this company, and we’re only getting started! “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!” COLE Damn right. “O-A-O! O-A-O!” The fans’ chants fill the arena, and Calvin stops for a second to let the crowd have its fun. CALVIN But last Sunday night was hampered; it was ruined by the actions of one individual. One individual ruined the Main Event of Climax, the title match. MY title match. One individual ruined all my plans, and screwed each and every one of you by doing it. Management has been on my ass the entire week asking me to fix this. So, I’ve fixed it. You see, next week, instead of your usual HeldDown, the OAOAST will hold a special event live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It will be the OAOAST’s New Years Spectacular, and it has one hell of a Main Event. You see, in the contract for the Climax title match, it states that if Peter Knight loses, then he is not allowed a title shot for all of Two Thousand Six. But, it never says anything about him not getting another title shot before the end of Two Thousand Five. So next week, live, in this very ring, it will be Stephen Joseph defending the OAOAST Championship in a rematch of Sunday night’s Main Event, against Peter Knight! “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHH!!!” CABOOSE YES! COLE Wow. What a match! The New Years Spectacular next week live! CALVIN Now… on to Axel. “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBOOOOOYEEEEEEEEEEEEBOOYEEEEEEEEEEAH!” This would be about the most accurate description of the reaction that Axel received from the crowd, who still love the guy, but dislike his actions on Sunday night. CALVIN Axel, you ruined MY Pay Per View Main Event. Ever since you came back you’ve been dodging authority, walking around and doing whatever you want, whenever you want. Attacking guys, interfering in matches. It stops now. Axel, I am ordering your sorry ass out to this ring to face the music. COLE Strong words from the General Manager, calling Axel out! [b]BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!![/b] “I’M ON A HIGH!” Millionaire’s first single hits over the loudspeakers as Axel appears at the top of the entrance ramp. The crowd pop huge for the appearance of one of their favourites, momentarily forgetting his actions on Sunday night, as its an entrance, they have to pop. Dressed in casual attire, the usual jeans, plus a red ‘TapOut’ T-Shirt, Axel slaps a couple hands, and steps into the ring. He too has a clipboard and a microphone, and it’s clear he has something very important to discuss. The music dies down, and Calvin begins to address the former two-time champion. CALVIN Axel, last Sunday night, you made a mis- AXEL WOAH. Stop right there boss man. I’ve made a mistake huh? I bet you think I just made another one by interrupting you. Well sorry to mess with your vegetables G-M, but the only mistake that was made was by you for sanctioning a title match without me in it. I told everyone last week that I wasn’t happy, and it just so happened I took it out on one Stephen Joseph. And hey, who in this arena WOULDN’T hit Stephen Joseph in the head with a chair if given the chance? “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHH!!!!!!!” CALVIN That might be Axel, but you ruined MY MAIN EVENT! You screwed with the wrong guy. Now, you have to face the consequences of your actions. AXEL Give it to me, boss man. “OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!” COLE Axel had better tread lightly here, he might get a bigger punishment that first thought! CALVIN You wanna be smart? Alright, lets see how smart you are now. I am hereby placing you under suspension for ninety days… WITHOUT Pay. COLE WOW. CABOOSE He had it coming guys. He was being a smartass out here. The crowd boo, not necessarily Calvin for making the decision, but just the decision as a whole. What surprises most is Axel’s reaction. He isn’t angry, annoyed, flipping out, but instead, he’s calm, collected, and…. Laughing? COLE Wha-what’s Axel so happy about all of a sudden? CALVIN Do you want to explain to me why you’re laughing? AXEL Calvin, Calvin, Calvin. Do you really think I’d be stupid enough to screw management without anything to protect me? CALVIN …What are you talking about? AXEL Okay. I’ll tell you and all these OAOAST fans a little story. You see, when I went off into the world of mixed martial arts, the OAOAST started losing money. Big stars up and left. Buyrates started plummeting. Management was so desperate to get me back in front of an OAOAST banner that they pretty much gave me whatever clauses I wanted in my contract. They were so damn desperate to sign me back to a long term deal that they didn’t even consider what clauses I put in. You see Cal; I was always a mark for Mick Foley’s contract bag o’ tricks, so I put some stuff in my contract that was similar. One of those clauses was that I cannot be suspended, made inactive or fired by anyone but OAOAST President Bill Watts. That means you have no power over me Cal. Oh, and don’t try going all Bischoff and punishing me with a ten-on-one handicap either, because I’ve got the power to veto any one of the matches that I’m booked in. If the OAOAST was the United Nations, I’d be America. “YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!” COLE Axel playing politics! Calvin had no idea! CABOOSE This is big. No one’s ever had that much power in their contract before. Calvin stands in front of Axel, perplexed at what he’s hearing, and visibly irate that he wasn’t informed. AXEL Oh, and another thing Cal, this one’s just for you. One of the clauses in my contract gives me the power to challenge for one title at any event of my choosing. Now, those are the exact words of the contract. Being the legal connoisseur that I am, the word ‘title’ can be interpreted as ‘championship’, but also as ‘position’. So, I’m using my clause for the good of the company here. Next week, at that New Years Spectacular you announced, its going to be Calvin Szechstein stepping back into the ring, and putting his General Manager’s position on the line against… me. Axel. The OAOAST’s Most Dangerous Man. COLE WHAT? COACH A match for the General Manager’s position? THAT’S HUGE NEWS! NEXT WEEK HERE LIVE! Calvin, now speechless, looks down at his clipboard, looks at then fans… and SPEARS AXEL DOWN! COLE Calvin is attacking Axel! The two men roll around on the canvas trading blows, and jockeying for position. Calvin gets to his feet, and the two go at it again, trading right hands. Calvin’s security storms the ring to try and break it apart, but they have no such luck, as Calvin boots Axel in the stomach and waves them off! Calvin with the standing bodyscissors – attempting the Clash! COLE Calvin’s going for the Code Red Cla- but Axel escaped! Axel does indeed escape the bodyscissors, taking Calvin down and trying a heel hook, but Calvin grabs the ropes and escapes out of the ring! CABOOSE Both men tried to put the other away, but neither could finish the job! There won’t be any running next week! COLE What high stakes for the New Years Spectacular! We could see the beginning of two new eras! Axel trying to become General Manager, Peter Knight trying to become OAOAST Champion! And we’ve only just gotten started tonight!

My segment is almost done.

Okay, I'll admit, that got a chuckle.

Well how about putting that on your fucking ballot then? Don't just post random shit here, actually do a ballot and do something productive, or is that too hard?

No, it wouldn't be better at all. Using Joe as your example is where you fuck up. As has been said 1000 times already, Joe doesn't do 30,000 moves. He keeps it fairly simple, apart from perhaps the Musclebuster, and the suicide dive he does at times. The stuff that Joe does is made to look like it hurts more than any other guy in TNA. Ultimately, a **** or ***** match can be either a technical classic (see Angle-Benoit), a war between two hard hitting greats (Joe-Kobashi) or a fast-paced catch-as-catch-can match with high flying moves (Guerrero-Mysterio HH97). It doesn't matter. Its all professional wrestling. It just so happens that your cup of tea is pro wrestling that looks like a fight. That is fine. But who are you to come in here and say that we are all wrong for liking something different to you? Its fine to argue why you think something is better, but you scewed up when you started making it personal, and saying that we aren't wrestling fans because we like something different to you.

Judging from your posts, I'd say your periods are quite excessive.

PK, it might just be me having another idea of how to do things, but I really don't like the whole Axel/SJ handshake thing. It didn't look right when SJ wrote that Axel helped SJ at Climax, and it doesn't look right now. If Axel was a chair wielding maniac that took SJ's head off, why would they be shaking hands? Here's what I was thinking that would make the next two weeks slightly more logical: THIS WEEK - General Manager Calvin Szechstein comes out to the ring and calls Axel out, saying that he not only ruined his title match at Climax, but he screwed up the entire Pay Per View, and now he has to face the consequences. Due to his interference, there will be ANOTHER title match scheduled for the New Years show, once again seeing SJ defend against PK. - Axel comes out, and Calvin tries to tell him that he's indefinately suspended. Axel stops him, and informs him that he can't do that. Calvin asks why, and Axel tells him a little story of some clauses he put in his new contract. Considering OAOAST Management were so damn desperate to sign him to a deal, they gave in to his demands. One of his demands was the ability to make a title match for himself. Now, due to a loophole, the word 'title' can be interpreted as 'position'. So, next week at the NY show, its going to be Axel vs. Cal for the GM spot. Then, Axel wins the GM spot at the New Years show, and helps PK win the belt. Its logical, its easy to follow, and it keeps the turn until the end. Axel wins the GM spot as a face, does his thing, and by the end of the night, he's a heel.

Dama vs. Gibraltar would be MONEY, I tells ya. No Sell in the Cell indeed. Axel will be in the house, word on DA STREET~! is that General Manager Calvin Szechstein will publicly address his involvement in this past Sunday's Main Event, and deliver punishment. What will go down? Will it be written in l33t? FIND OUT THIS THURSDAY ON HELDDOOOOWWWWNNNNNN~!

Okay, the other title match is up in HE. Enjoy.

COEL OMG NOW ITZ TIEM FOR DA WURLD TITL MECH! COACH SJ RULZ LOL CABOOSE STFU BUFFER OMG DIZ IS 4 DA WORLD TITEL! Oh helz yeh lolz iz a kewl song BUFFER PK YAY! PK cums dowen da r4mp n getz !n da ring “YAAAAAAY!” Dis is PK: HE IS KEWL COLE OMG IF PK LUSES HE SUX0RZ!!11!1!!!!!111!1!1 COACH SJ RULZ LOL CABOOSE STFU N00B U SUK IT AINT OVA 4 ME! CAHMPION! N HES WIT DA ROCKY MAN! DA PERTA RICON! COLE LOLZ HE IZ! BUFFER SJ CHAMPION YAY BOO! “BOOOOOOO!” DING DIGN DNIG! COLE WHATAMATHC! COACH BANG! CABOOSE STFU DDP OMG SITOUTBOMBPOWER! 11!!1!!!1!1!1!!1!!1111!!11 NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!!q!!!11!11!11!!111111!!1one COLE OMG OLNY 1 PK SUX0RZ DROPKCIK! IT’S A TYPE OF SUPLEX! 0MG F1N4L17Y ASIF YOU WOULD H17 UR F1N1SHER 2 M1NU7ES 1N GAY ITS 4XLE! SJ LOLZ 1 USED A SMILEY HE HAS A 4ND HES GONA USE 17! L33T IS FUN! OMG AXEL HIT SJ BUT APPARENTLY HE WAS GONA HELP SJ AND THAT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE CAUSE HE KIKED SJ’S ASS 3 WEEKS AGO AND SAID THAT HE HATES HIM ITS OVA! BUFFER SJ STILL CHAMP SUX0RZ

Alf should do NBA. Bobby should do e-fed ettiquette. That is all. Actually, no it isn't. Great ideas here guys, I wouldnt mind a wrestling roundtable every two weeks, and perhaps a MMA roundtable every month, or after every UFC.

I will post my 1337 m41n 3v3n7 if enough people request it.

Question... how about two one-hour shows? Perhaps an hour Thursday nights and an hour on Saturday nights? It'd give a good space out for guys who don't get a spot on one show, and it'd allow them to build angles even more. I'd be quite happy with two one-hour slots.

Hooray! ....watch Jermaine get traded for KG or something just to piss me off.

Its more than fine. Good job.

Send everything to moi by the 28th. Or post it in GCF. Whichever.