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Ha Kip couldn't even get a reaction with the "bash the hometown football team" schtick.

In a wrestling match that already has one referee?

IF Sewell is now a wrestler why is he still dressing like a referee?

I can tolerate them a lot more when they're live. They seem a lot less scripted.

1. Sheik Abdul Bashir vs. Shane Sewell - Shane Sewell 2. TNA X Division Title Tournament Final: Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley - Shelley 3. TNA Women's Knockout Title Lumberjack Match: Christy Hemme vs. Awesome Kong© - Awesome Kong BONUS (1 pt): Whose interference will lead to the pin? - Raisha Saeed 4. TNA World Tag Team Title Three Way Match: Matt Morgan & Abyss vs. Beer Money Inc vs. Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed© - Lethal and Creed BONUS (1pt): Who will get pinned in the match? - Abyss 5. Booker T & Scott Steiner & Kevin Nash vs. Brother Devon & AJ Styles & Mick Foley - Foley, Styles, Devon BONUS (1pt): Who will score the pin in this match? - Foley 6. Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett- Kurt Angle 7. TNA World Heavyweight Title: Rhino vs. Sting© - Sting

I moved from the Ukraine to the United States in the fall of 1992 and caught my first glimpse of wrestling a year or so later. I'd see it here and there on a Saturday morning and didn't know what to really make of it. IT was definitly entertaining and the larger than life characters appealed to me just like any other 6 or 7-year old. I didn't really find myself wondering if wrestling was real or not...it was entertaining and it didn't matter. My dad would see me watching it and would constantly remind me that it was fake but I loved it anyway. I didn't start really following it until the spring of 1995. It was the end of a Monday Night Raw episode and I caught the entire angle of Psycho Sid turning on Shawn Michaels and powerbombing him three times in a row. I don't know what it was about that angle (maybe the way Shawn sold the injury) but it really hooked me into the product. I didn't have a TV in my room up to that point so I couldn't watch the show weekly since my dad would usually watch TV Monday nights. So for the next nine months or so I would follow wrestling (pretty much only the WWF) through the WWF magazine that would come out every month. I finally got my own TV for Christmas of 1995 and have watched atleast one wrestling show every week since then.

I pretty much agree with everyone that says Orton is just unable to come off as a face. He reminds everyone of that high school jock who was an asshole to everyone until someone rightfully put him in his place.

I wasn't a fan of his face run. He acted pretty much the same as he did as a heel, complete with the gay turnbuckle pose and all.

Winner: Orton Final Four: Orton, Undertaker, Shawn, Hunter #1 and #2 - Orton and Shawn Iron Man - Kofi Kingston In and Out Man - Santino

My favorite yearly thread. Here it is-- -Brutas Magnus will make his debut in in late January and, following in the footsteps of Judas Mesias and Suicide, will promptly get injured. -Hernandez will get a main event push and be in World Title contention by the end of the year. -Homocide will get a short run with the X-Divison title. -The Beautiful People will add a young singles star to their group who will go on to become a top heel in the company. -Elijah Burke, Ken Doane, and Snitsky will all make their TNA debut by March. -After a nasty and public war of words, Kurt Angle will leave TNA in September and return to a part time schedule in WWE. What does everyone else think?

Just saw it last night and yeah...him attempting the accent was definitly great. Not having heard of the story before, I definitly enjoyed the movie. For those that saw the movie and know about the real operation Valkyrie, was that really how close they got to overthrowing HItler or did the movie stretch it? Also, the actor that played Hitler was great.

Ric Flair Ted Dibiase Shawn Michaels Kerry Von Erich Two charismatic young guys and two veterens which could lead to a great storyline for the eventual breakup of the group. I could see Shawn and Von Eric making a good tag team.

Didn't Robert Roode feud with Eric Young for a full year or so from late 2006 into 2007?

JBL vs. Batista anyone? I found enjoyment in some of Bret's WCW matches. Bret vs. Benoit from Mayhem was good as was the first Bret vs. Flair match.

DOUBLEPOST (sorry) Question: Are we just trying to predict the winner and that's it or do we need to predict the type of finish that will take place, possible run-ins, etc? If not, is there a possibility of adding more points for predicting the type of finish that will happen or would that make it too complicated?

Question: Are we just trying to predict the winner and that's it or do we need to predict the type of finish that will take place, possible run-ins, etc? If not, is there a possibility of adding more points for predicting the type of finish that will happen or would that make it too complicated?

Count me in for quarter one.

The thing with Tenay and West is that they've shown an inability to react naturally to anything. With someone like JR he knows how to react to something big naturally, mostly by just being quite. Tenay and West are incapable of doing that. And Again, just because you don't give the announcers every detail of a certain angle doesn't mean that you've lost your ability to steer the the angle in the way you want it to play out.

The show becomes a lot better if there are some elements that make the audience say to themselves, "was that really supposed to happen?" THat element sucks people into the show more. Great example of this is Mayweather/Big Show from No Way Out. TNA is incapable of producing moments like that because Tenay and West would kill it by commentating on it in a way that takes any bit of realism out of it. A good way to correct that would be to give them less details and force them to react naturally. And there is a way to do that while still giving them enough information to lead the audience in the appropriate direction.

How would not telling the announcers, for example, every detail of Suicide's debut, prevent them from getting across the point that after months of promos Suicide has finally debuted, in surprising fashion, and sent a message to the MCMG's? You give them enough info to get the points across they need to get across but you don't tell them every little detail so the show actually comes across as somewhat real. Because right now it comes across as basically the most non-real wrestling show on TV.

I'm not saying that they should be kept in the dark completely but some of the big moments can be withhold from them, thus producing a more genuine response. Take the Suicide debut for example...they could have simply told them that he would debut sometime during the match without telling them when or how.

I disagree..I think the problem is that they're already being told how to commentate. I remember them reading off of scripts one time during an Abyss/Sting angle. I think they should actually withhold some of the things that are going to happen on the show from the announcers that way their reactions are more real. Sometimes they talk so fast that they say stuff before it actually happens making everything seem completely scripted. If they are given just bullet points and outlines of what will happen it might make the show seem more realistic and less scripted.

Exactly. I found it hilarious that when Bubba had Angle sitting up against the dumpster and started talking crap to him Tenay kept yelling at first and then had to stop himself. There's proof of this. I remember last year they did an angle where Christian's Coalition did a huge beatdown on Abyss, hit him with a barbed wire bat, etc and left him in a pool of blood. Konnan was doing guest commentary and it came off so much better because of the heel/face dynamic. Konnan kept talking about how this was great and they were teaching Abyss how to follow orders, etc and Tenay just acted disgusted. With Tenay/West, they just describe what we can see with our own two eyes and do it in a loud way.

What is up with Tenay/West needing to call play by play for that backstage beatdown on Bubba? Those two fools were yelling over each other the whole time.