Lt. Al Giardello

I mentioned Floyd because Alkeiper asked the question, how many HOF-caliber fighters have retired undefeated. Floyd has. It said nothing about being an undisputed champion. Let me give you a little history lesson 909... At Junior Welterweight there was no one really left to fight after Gatti... He problay would've fought Vivian Harris, but he got KTFO by a retarded Colombian, Kostya Tszyu retired after the Hatton fight, and at the time Cotto was nowhere ready for Floyd Mayweather. He had no choice but to move up and pursue a fight with the undisputed WW champion, at the time Zab Judah (some gatekeeper eh?)... He needed a tune up fight before the Judah fight, so he took the Mitchell fight. For the record, Mitchell does not suck shit... He always a good boxer for many years, and a tough contender. He was a Light Welterweight champion for a few years as well, until losing it to Kostya Tszyu in controversial fashion. He is not a HOFer or a great boxer by any means, but he does not suck shit and was a solid fighter for many years. But back to the original point... He smoked Mitchell, and waited for Judah(who was the best WW in the world at the time, not some gatekeeper) to beat Baldomir, which was suppose to be an easy win for him. Judah shit the bed against Baldomir and was upsetted, whatever Mayweather still took the Judah fight because even though Judah loss to Baldomir it was still a tougher fight for him. So he beat Judah, and the naysayers still doubted Mayweather was the best at WW, and until he beat Baldomir, who was the real champion since he beat the #1 WW fighter at the time in Judah, he shouldn't be considered the best WW. Sure Baldomir isn't a great boxer by any stretch, but the fact remains he still beat Judah who was at the time the best welterweight in the world. Mayweather easily took The Ring's WW Champion, Carlos Baldomir to school, it was basically a sparring session... And decided to move up and get a crack at the best Light Middleweight in the world, Oscar De La Hoya. He really had nothing left to prove at welterweight. And by the way, even though Ricky Hatton struggled in a few fights, he was still undefeated and beat HOF fighters like Castillo, and Kostya Tszyu, and very good fighters like Juan Urango, Juan Lazcano, and Paulie Malignaggi... He is without a shadow of a doubt the best Light Welterweight other then Kostya Tszyu maybe of this decade. Seems to me you're going out of your way to discredit Floyd which is bullshit and petty. He also fought the top ranked fighters in the world as well. He beat everyone there was to beat to prove he was the best WW. He held titles in 5 different weight classes beating the best fighters in those weight classes, sure the quality of fighters at light welterweight isn't great, but that was because the division at the same was shit... He still fought the best fighter who was considered the best Light Welterweight. And now you're trying to hate on Floyd for trying to get a fight with the best pound 4 pound fighter in the world? Newsflash, n00b... Manny Pacquaio isn't just a "former flyweight" champion(which he won when he was small 20 year, you dumbass)... He has developed his body into a Light Welterweight body, and if he beats Hatton it will only further the point that he is the best in the division. He is the same "flyweight" who looked more impressive against DLH then Floyd ever did. The fact you're even hating on Floyd for wanting this fight and discrediting him proves you're a fucking idiot when it comes to boxing.

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali Crusierweight: Evander Holyfield Light Heavyweight: Michael Spinks Super Middleweight: Roy Jones Jr. Middleweight: Bernard Hopkins Light Middleweight: Terry Norris Welterweight: Sugar Ray Leonard Light Welterweight: Aaron Pryor Lightweight: Pernell Whitaker Super Featherweight: Julio César Chávez Featherweight: Azumah Nelson Super Bantamweight: Wilfredo Gomez Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate Super Flyweight: Khaosai Galaxy Flyweight: Mark Johnson Light Flyweight: Michael Carbajal Minimumweight: Ricardo Lopez

I'm Canadian, but on the real Calzaghe will never be considered an all time great. HOF fighter? Sure, but he will never be in my top 50 P4P boxers ever. For years he ducked the best fighters during their primes. He fought and struggled with C and B-level opponets, while being scared shitless to step out of the UK. I give him props for beating Kessler, I still think he lost to Hopkins, and Reid both of whom Calzaghe has refused to give rematches to. That is not a real champion in my books.

So how is your original statement relevent to the question by alkeiper? He didn't need to be undisputed in ANY division. He went to each weight class and fought the best fighters in the division... He didn't need to fight bum fighters who were alphabet champions, he just wanted to fight the best fighters who were considered the best in that division. That's better then being an undisputed champion in my books. Floyd is without a doubt the best fighter of this decade, and I'm not even a huge fan of the guy, atleast nowadays.

Are you trying to deny that he isn't a HOF caliber fighter? If so, you're retarded.

Det. Ed Green

Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Here is my football starting roster Starting roster: OFFENSE - QB: Dan Marino HB: Jim Brown FB: Lorenzo Neal WR: Jerry Rice WR: Cris Carter TE: Tony Gonzalez OT: Willie Roaf OT: Anthony Muñoz OG: Bruce Matthews OG: John Hannah C: Jim Langer DEFENSE - DE: Bruce Smith DE: Deacon Jones DT: Merlin Olsen DT: Joe Greene LB: Lawrence Taylor LB: Ray Lewis LB: Jack Ham CB: Mel Blount CB: Deion Sanders FS: Larry Wilson SS: Ronnie Lott K: Morten Anderson P: Ray Guy KR/PR: Brian Mitchell Coach: Don Shula Offensive Coordinator: Dan Reeves Defensive Coordinator: Dick LeBeau

Surely EMHE has called someone here a honky or cracker. Even if I did, how would that be racism when I'm half white? Moron.

By the way Matt Arroyo getting robbed against Dan Cramer was the biggest pile of shit... Then again I'm very biased, because me and Matt are e-buddies.

Hey! I only cheer for A-level black fighters, and black fighters with great potential (I.E. Jon Jones, John Howard, King Mo and Rumble)... I got love for all races to! When did BJ Penn(who along with Rampage is my favorite MMA fighter), Shinya Aoki, JZ Calvancante, Matt Wiman, Clay Guida, and Cain Velasquez all become black? There are more to amigo!

Maybe because he's a good poster, not a little emo-dipshit like you.

Get bent, Kim didn't deserve to win that fight. He struggled against a poorly shape Karo. If you actually scored round 1 10-8 clearly you're sucking Kim's dick. I had it a draw.

Never seen him in the chat before, so doubt it.

Carwin/Gonzaga for me.

Can't wait to see Cole Miller submit Junie in the 1st round.

It's ashame thats all you know of Joseph Gordon-Levitt, because he's developed into a fanatastic actor. I saw him in that film with Heath Ledger a few years ago. 10 Things I Hate About You, I think it was. That movie was in the 90's... Joseph Gordon-Levitt has had great performances in The Lookout, Brick and Stop-Loss recently, check those movies out.

yeah but pbone's like 16 if I frequented this board at that age I'd be exactly like him...EHME should know better. Really, just like EHME-Barron, there are no winners. I did only did that once, and I contribute to a lot of the other folders as well. Nevertheless, I'm cutting down on the posting here big time. And TSM will rejoice... Faggot.

How about Paul Daley for England. And just found out Melvin was born in Suriname... Either way I would say there has to be a better MMA fighter from the Netherlands then Semmy Schlit.

My opinion... America- Rashad Evans Mexico- Efrain Escudero England- Dan Hardy Netherlands- Melvin Manhoef As far as Rashad and Efrain goes, it's hard to go against undefeated fighters especially considering the level of competition Rashad has fought. Don't know too much about Duarte though, so I'll admit my ignorance there. Dan Hardy has been on role, and if he can beat Rory it will only further my argument. Alistair is going decent in a shitty division, but I expect when he faces a talented 10 HW, he will eventually lose. But I can see why you can rank Alistair over Hardy, but I'm going to go with Hardy! Ain't nothin you can do about it! Melvin Manhoef has done much more recently in the current MMA scene then Semmy Schlit has. I know you don't like Melvin because he ain't a grappler, but him knocking out Mark Hunt in 18 seconds gives him this crown.

Soooooooo bored! Come holla!

GFYM

Shouldn't you be off whining? Oh wait, you're doing it right now. I bet saying "nigger" on the forum really gets a lot of anger off your chest right?

It's official... Tom Cable remains Oakland Raiders head coach. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9175454...-coach?MSNHPHMA

I think the majority would have to agree, you've been stale since 2002...