Big Ol' Smitty

If you guys wanna add Powerplay and Karl Rove to the commission I'm game.

All apologies Powerplay--I certainly should have included you. I just thought the CE people would care more.

Yowza. *walks into the sunset hanging his head* Wasn't referring to you. Just that twat who backs you up. -=Mike ...The same twat also defended neo-Nazi Kamui, just so you know... Yeah, sorry I missed that.

Yowza.

Note: I don't really care whose violent crime rate is higher. But... Preponderance of evidence vs. Roger Ebert, Michael Moore Hates America We report, you decide.

Um, they are. Maybe he shouldn't have said it, though, I'll give you that.

Point taken. It's the same way in authoritarian countries.

No luck, guess we're just gonna have to take Ebert's word for it.

Oh dear God, please don't tell me you're going to be launching conspiracy theories about Bush "stealing" Election 2004. And I'm standing by my exit poll theory. In PA Kerry was given WAY too much credit in the exit polls, and in PA the results from Pittsburgh and Philly always come in first, giving the Democrat candidate a big lead that gets chopped away as the more conservative districts in the middle of the state come in. I'm man enough to admit my mistakes, as few and far between as they may be. I was making a reference to the Clinton impeachment days. Back then Crazy Arlen, when forced to vote to boot Bill out of office, chose to invoke some hippie Scottish law thing that wasn't a Yay or Nay vote. Why the hell did I vote for him again this year?... Stand by the theory all you want, but the polls are weighted for differences in polling between Democrats and Republicans. Dick Morris said this was "elementary." The results coming in earlier in urban areas has nothing to do with the exit polls.

http://142.206.72.67/04/04b/04b_002a_e.htm statcan

canadaonline Article published in 2003.

I'm not.

Roger Ebert and Michael Moore Hates America? I'm trying to find one source to verify Ebert...I'll keep looking.

Again, I'm not questioning the outcome of the election or alleging fraud. I would just like to know why the exit polls were wrong. How and why are they unreliable? I have yet to see how this could happen, other than Mike's left-wing conspiracy theory. Schneider is a political guy, not a pollster or a statistician. Maybe scrapping the polls is a good idea though--but they are used to sniff out fraud in emerging democracies. Why can't we use them here? I know it's scary to think that fraud could happen, but it could. And it might not necessarily be perpetrated through some grand conspiracy by either side, but a few schmucks working at precinct levels. And why did the polls start becoming effed up in 2000? I can't see why anyone would oppose a more transparent electoral process.

No --- higher violent crime rate in Canada. -=Mike wikipedia statcan slate http://experts.about.com/q/351/661961.htm Where We Stand, Michael Wolff, Peter Rutten & Albert F. Bayers III and the World Rank Research Team (New York: Bantam Books, 1992), pp. 289-297. Encyclopedia of Criminology

I never alleged voter fraud. And maybe Morris is right. If the exit polls were manipulated, then whoever did it should be punished. However, it is quite easy to manipulate Diebold results from what I have read. I don't think it would take the grand orchestration that you suggest. Just a few targeted manipulations in key states. I think it's funny that Repubs are so defensive about reform of e-voting if they are so sure that the process was clean.

Yeah. Higher property crime rates in Canada, higher violent crime rates in the US.

Bzzzttt, wrong answer. From Dick Morris: Either the polls were wrong or the vote was wrong. With such little transparency in the electoral process due to e-voting, the vote can easily be tampered with.

I still haven't found what the problem with the exit polls was.

I saw the first with an ex-girlfriend. I think my sperm count dropped significantly as a result.

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The Weekly Standard is funded by Southeast Asian sex tourism prominently featuring young Laotian boys. But I'm not gonna prove it because nobody would listen if I did.

feel free to prove that Care to guess who's bankrolling your favorite little blog? -=Mike hmmm.. I could have sworn I asked for proof but.. yeah.. rumors and innuendo rule, don't they? Why give proof when it'd be ignored. Soros bankrolls the liberal echo chamber like no other. -=Mike

Except Soros' money has gone SOLELY to attack Bush. Scaife actually set up conservative think tanks and not simply bitchtanks. -=Mike And those think tanks are just peachy keen on Clinton, I'm sure. Look all I'm saying is that if you deny the VRWC you have to deny the VLWC. You can't have it both ways. By the way, does anyone else think that think tanks are crap? They lack the "checks and balances" of the academic world proper and are basically apparatuses to justify ideology ex post facto.