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Bryan Alvarez appropriately predicted this show wouldn't do too well because UPN is a network and is carried in a similar number of homes as NBC. So the SNME number should be around the Smackdown number. However, people actually watch NBC. Even if they have slipped up in the past few years, I think a lot more people on Saturday Nights would flip to see what's on NBC than would flip to UPN on Friday Nights. In other words, the potential for a higher rating is/was much greater on NBC. Taker vs. Bob Sapp would be RIDICULOUSLY awesome. Though not as awesome as Taker vs. Fedor. I'll shoot Dave an email askin him where he scores his rock.

Pretty much every networks ratings improved in the second hour, so the WWE can't even look at that as a positive. They got a 1.6 rating in 18-49. That's hilarious.

What show was Dave watching?

A streetfight is falls count anywhere. It's a fucking streetfight. Vince fired the audience a few months back.

Or the Undertaker looking 90 years old trying to sell this ridiculous "pure striker" gimmick that he wants to get over so badly because he is such an MMA fanboy LIES! LIIIIIIIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All they need is Taker doing some kickboxing with K-1 fighters. The deadman needs to go to Thailand!! It'll work dammit!

"Mommy, why is Daddy and Grampa beating up that skinny old man?"

I thought it was because Shawn wouldn't get a hair cut.

Did they even acknowledge the boos for Cena tonight? You'd think someone who was unfamiliar would be kinda wonderin why a guy they are trying to say is a good guy is getting boo'd by the audience.

There is no storyline reason. Apparently, cause I didn't see it, Vince said on RAW that he was bringing back JR for SNME and said it like it was supposed to get a pop.

Because they don't have any faith in Joey Styles or Michael Cole to sell their biggest show of year to the largest audience they could get. And JR was really working out there to get his job back. The effort he put in getting HHH over, it was admirable in a incredibly pathetic sorta way. "The King of Kings. The Emperor of Ending Careers. The Sultan of Psychology. The Czar that's above Par. The Ceasar of the Sledgehammer. The Royal Highness of having sex with many beautiful women and wearing expensive clothing and holding the world title a lot".

In the WWE Logic, it makes sense. In real world logic, why any of those guys *specifically Rey* would not start beating the shit out of their partner *specifically Randy "Eddie is in Hell" Orton* does not make any sense whatsoever.

But the whole *point* of the tag match was for the teams to turn on each other, and it wouldn't have made sense for them to turn on each other if there was something on the line. SILLY.

Because they want Bret Hart involved in an angle.

On the plus-side, I can pretty much pick out all the people whose opinions are worthless to me. See, those that liked the show I lump in the "worthless" category. Not specifically because they liked this show, but I am finding a lot of the names I see who liked this show are names that, in the past, I have found myself labelling as mouth-breathers for other stupid things they have said, thought, or felt for that matter. I should probably make a list just for record-keeping purposes, because after a while folks get jumbled together and I tend to lose my discretion when reading peoples opinions. It's a lot easier seeing a name, thinking "stupid", then skipping over what would have most likely have been a stupid post.

Angle is too broken down, though he gets the job done in regards to popping an audience in the ring better than anyone they have right now cept for maybe... Rey would be a better bet, IMO. They could have inserted clips of Rey Mysterio throughout the show, doing all these crazy moves, talking about Eddie Guerrero to a larger audience, and getting over that he's a really exciting guy, but he's small so he's the underdog, so the question -the mystery- is: can he really win the belt at Wrestlemania? But Rey isn't who they have their bet on, they have theirs on Orton.

And after almost 10 years Vince still doesn't get why Survivor Series 1997 worked. Why people were interested in it. Why it captured our imaginations and our emotions. It's hilarious to see someone try to recreate something again and again and again and see it not work but then still tries to do it again and again and again because it worked that one time.

Here's what this show needed to do. Take one wrestler. All they need is one. Focus the show around him. Make him seem important. Create an excitement around him. Like he's the coolest motherfucker on the planet and people are missing out on him. Make people who are watching for the first time want to see more of that guy, because a guy that popular, a guy that has that much attention on him, is someone they should keep their eye on. At one time, that would have been John Cena. But they can't do that with John because half the crowd hates him. They never took any stance on that and ignored it and they couldn't push him like they should have on the night they had their biggest audience. They had something hot and fresh with Edge and they ignored it. Rey Mysterio is one of their biggest fan favourites and they ignore it. Why did they ignore it? Because it didn't fit in with their plans. Instead of listening to the fans as Vince likes to say he does, they have created numerous matches that few want to see, that no one is excited about. So when it came to selling Wrestlemania, WHEN IT CAME TO SELLING THE WWE, they had no clear position to sell. They had no one wrestler for the audience to latch on to. They did not have any standouts. They failed. On their big night they couldn't do anything more than go to the past, to present to the audience what they have been presenting for 8 fucking years, which the fans don't want to see any more and couldn't have made it more clear to the WWE. They could have used tonight to present something different, to present something fresh, to present something the audience hasn't seen before. Their answer to that was the finish of the Michaels/McMahon match. A finish that happened almost 10 years ago. A finish that they have done over, and over, and over, and over again. They had JR and the King announcing. They had the same shitty pyro they always have. They had the same production, the same camera work, the same style of presentation. They had Steve Austin go on and on and on about drinkin beer. They had evil bad guy Vince McMahon. They had the screw job finish. They had HHH as the focus out of all their top guys. They had Taker and Mark fucking Henry. The only thing I can think they did that could have possibly have interested anyone was the Boogeyman and Booker T, and that won't sell anything. They have no idea what they are doing. At all. This show achieved nothing.

Boy o boy, I *really* wanna see Austin/JBL now! Wait, it's not even Austin/JBL? BENOIT is facing Austin? Not Austin? He's facing JBL? Soooo it had absolutely no point other than to put Austin on TV? BRILLIANT~!

This would be much funnier if Austin was actually shittered rather than saying he is.

You know, if someone were watching this who stopped watching after the Attitude era, here's what I imagine they are thinking "Vince McMahon is playing the same role he was playing 7 years ago." Booker and Sharmell are fucking tremendous in their cheesery, though.

Wow, that first match just buried Smackdown and was a HHH yank-job. Actually, almost everyone in that match looked bad besides HHH.

Vitor is fighting in Cage Rage, which is an English company, and word is he'll be participating in a boxing match at Minotauro fights.

Both University and College have their pros and cons, which I can attest to cause I've been in both. I find they complement each other very well, at least they do in regards to my field of study. Where one lacks, the other fills in the gaps, and an increasing amount of students are taking both for that reason (going from graduating University to College for a year or two) It's been said before, but it's true, College is more practical and hands-on. The business admin cirriculum is heavily influenced by outside businesses so it can accurately reflect the reality and what is needed to participate in the work force. I'm sure the Universitys are like that too, but this is moreso, and it's a lot more up-to-date, imo. College teachers have a much heavier workload, though, and get paid less for it. In college, for the most part, teachers have one-on-one interaction with the students and *gasp* even know their name. I gave one of my teachers a bunch of MMA tapes and CD's cause his nephew was into it, we also had a discussion about the early days of UFC with Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock. They also have to put up with a lot more shit, in terms of marking and also dealing with students, both in class and out. The workload in College is much heavier than in Universities. In University I hear people complain about writing 8-10 page essays when it College is was more about writing 25, 60, 100 pages. But that wasn't theory stuff, this was business plans, marketing plans, proposals, etc. You know, actual relevant stuff. But then again, those teachers don't have to have the same amount of qualifications as a University Professor. I think I only had one teacher in College that had a PhD. Most were teaching what they were teaching because they had a background in it, which is also the case with profs. So I guess you get paid what you are worth. In general, I think I've learned more in University, but I did more in College. University is more intensive when it comes to a learning/class ratio, as you rarely ever cover the same thing twice, whereas College is a bit slower. But while I never felt that I was learning something useless, a lot of the stuff I learned in Uni never felt useful. I still have a ways to go, but thus far, everything we are learning we aren't learning how to solve. It's more identifying problems, why the problems are happening, and the theory behind it, and less how to deal with the problems and solve them. College was more about solving the problem and the alternatives to choose from.

I haven't read this whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been said, but if this is true, it does say that it is more than the downside. The wrestlers who are making the most coin are guys who regularly appear on PPV. Kane makes so much because Kane is on every RAW PPV. The incentive, I imagine, comes in "If you are good enough, if you work hard enough, if you get over with the crowd enough, we will put you on PPV and you can have the chance to make more money".

There isn't a reason to watch the shows. That's their number one problem.