RavishingRickRudo

What was shown on Unleashed??

I coulda swore the shows only serious weakness was the bad writing and bad wrestling.

Whether they would have outright fired JR -as in, removing him from the payroll- or not, we'll never know unless they don't bring him back at all. Rumour was they were going to keep him on WWE.com. But they were going to remove him from the announce position. JR would have played along if they intended on firing him, though. The dude knows the politics of the situation, the dude has done anything and everything for the company. They've fired him twice already and brought him back, so he knows there's opportunity for him in the future if he doesn't burn bridges. WWE could care less about the quality of announcing, though. The announcers they've hired over the past 10 years is indicative of that. Getting rid of JR wasn't a quality issue.

Not from what I've heard. He's been a few years removed from his position as VP of Talent. The scouts are much lower-level guys like Tommy Dreamer. The closest JR comes to talent relations is talking about various guys in his Ross reports and dropping hints that indy workers should start perfecting their tag work. On the side he does football announcing and maybe is still involved in his BBQ sauce business. That, and working on WWE.com are about it, from what I can see.

Maybe they don't think Taker will make his 20 year anniversary in the WWE and will settle for 15. Make it his "retirement year/tour".

The WWE had every intention of getting rid of Ross from the announce position. Why else would they do all that stuff with Mike Goldberg? The WWE wanted Goldberg calling the action on the Homecoming show, that wasn't a work. That's straight from Mike Goldberg. That they've made this into an angle since the negotiations fell through doesn't mean that it wasn't actually going to happen, nor does it erase what happened. It's damage control. The very fact that you think it's an angle means it worked. But the facts remain, Goldberg was offered a contract to take Rosses place. That contract was a long-term deal that would have made Goldberg a millionaire. The WWE has a history of firing JR and trying to replace him. The WWE also has a history of incorporating JR's firing (and rehiring) into an angle. None of what I've just said has anything to do with what they've done on-screen or on their website in the past few weeks. And the angle wasn't very good at all. I am wondering what other duties JR has, though.

Yeah, cause it's not like the WWE offered Mike Goldberg a big-money contract to be their announcer plus a signing bonus if he would work the 10/3 Homecoming show. ...Or for the WWE to fire JR and then try to work it into a storyline. But the guys at the Torch are idiots. The WWE is trying to rework it in their favour and are bound to bring JR back within the next few months. Any heat from TNA would be aiding in the angle. Any praise for JR would just put more excitement/joy in his return. They'd be better off making fun of the WWE than taking them seriously.

Or that if they'd go outside they would get sick. So hey, you're down there, nothin better to do, why not just enter the code in and push the execute button? I can't imagine the participants of the study would know the realities of the experiment. They'd probably be people like the ones crashed on the island - wake up one day and you're there. Someone tells you the scenario and leaves. It's all about fear and control.

If the objective was to keep people in the bunker, that would explain why "Quarantine" was written on the inside rather than the outside.

I missed the Rhino/Sabu match, but the other 3 matches that I did see all ended the same way - the heel(s) back peddling down the entrance way with the face in the ring.

It's usually "Flavour of the Quarter". Snitskymania didn't start dying until about the 3rd month.

The sex appeal comment was more of a general comment than anything directed to you. That this group thinks that having sex appeal would compromise their "legitimacy" (or so it appears) is just silly. "She's hot and she can wrestle" is better than "She can wrestle". I can see wrestling anywhere, why should I watch this stuff? Then again, I can see hot women anywhere. But the combination of the two? Well, I can see that in my favourite promotion, but let's not consider that for a second. Hey, throw in some well defined characters and storylines. So now we have a wrestling promotion full of hot women who can wrestle, whose storylines and characters are notches above everything else out there. Hey now, you got something interesting and different. So far, the depth of this promotion is "A buncha average lookin white chicks in their mid-20's from various parts of the world, who want to be taken seriously as wrestlers and have wrestled in different parts of the country between 2-5 years and won various titles." Well, I'm lit on fire, hows abouts you?

The womens matches that I have seen, it appears they are more concerned with going from one move to the other without fucking up rather than telling a good story in the ring. But then again, that's the case with most indy wrestling. That there isn't a hint of sex appeal given off from Shimmer boggles the mind. It's the one thing women have over men and it goes ignored? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but...

A promotion that has "serious female wrestling" isn't effectively different. That's like saying a promotion that has "serious midget wrestling" is different. So what? Just because you make something serious, it's all of a sudden different? Damn, I should walk into the Coca Cola head office and propose my new idea - "What I propose is a can of coke - the same great taste - but in a PINK can." I'd be a guzillionaire. Basically, the only thing that differentiates Glimmer from ROH is that this is with women, and the wrestling -if it's possible- won't be as good? But hey, I bet they'd get even more "respect applause" and the WWE will be brought up A LOT more than ROH, so there's one thing that will make Shimmer stand out. Maybe your personal experience suggests differently, but to me, the indy shows that I have seen have had maybe 20% female attendance. It's not exactly a big target market, especially since half those girls were just there to appease their boyfriends. In the end, unless this show comps huge and invites various All-Girl Catholic Private Schools to the show, the majority of the audience will be guys just checking it out because it's affiliation with ROH. I could be wrong, of course. Is the idea of an all-womens fed a good one? As a theory, yes. If you are able to reach the target market of women ages 8-18 (and therefore their parents, boyfriends, etc.) then you are receiving a very high-spending demographic. I don't imagine women over the age of 18 will be all that interested in it simply because women at that age tend to take themselves a lil too seriously - and the women over that age that do go to wrestling shows and that aren't with their boyfriends... odds are they're there for more than just the wrestling. But there certainly is an openning to give positive role models to that group of females. But, realistically, womens wrestling in america? Has it ever really been successful on its own? Maybe there's a reason for that.

Btw, If I'm offending anyone, it's all in good fun. My main issue is against generic wrestling, not womens wrestling. I'm dying for something different. Hell, I found old Memphis wrestling interesting when I was watching it yesterday. I was listening intently to a Jackie Fargo interview. I never would have found that interesting a few years ago. Challenge your view of professional wrestling; what it is, and what it could be. I don't think a promotion where all the women look the same in the poster is going to do that.

I don't like to make generalizations (Ok, I LOOOOVE to make generalizations), but every womens match this side of Japan that I have seen has sucked (well, the Glamour Girls vs. Jumping Bomb Angels didn't suck, and Bull Nakano vs. Alundra Blayze didn't suck, and some of Jungle Grrrls matches in WOW didn't suck). The only thing worse than indy wrestlers pretending to be real wrestlers, is female indy wrestlers pretending to be real wrestlers. Hell, take out the indy and apply it to WWE womens wrestling as well. To think you can get by on wrestling alone in this day and age is absolutely foolish (to those that say ROH, I think ROH is awful), so you need to do something more. And that especially goes for the ladies. The current wrestling atmosphere doesn't lend itself well to wrestling in general, let alone womens wrestling. Who is going to be the main demographic this promotion is targeting, and does that demographic necessarily want what they're offering? My favourite promotion is The Real Catfight that airs on the fight network. You take one part MMA, one part pro wrestling, one part whacky japanese game show host, one part playful, drunken lesbianism, and one part naked asian chicks dressed in fetish costumes, and mix them together and you get the greatest promotion goin today (or yesterday... I have no idea when it was filmed). It's the closest thing you can get to my Meyerian view of pro wrestling. I don't really see the need for chicks in the ring if they aren't getting naked and fondling each other, and this promotion makes no illusions to be anything but. Plus, there's fantastic matwork in it. RRR: Male Chauvinist or Wrestling Realist?

It seems like every second episode is "revealing" some hidden secret or making up a past that was never hinted at before.

So I assume they didn't call the promotion "Glitter" because of the connotations it has with Mariah Carey movies. RRR: Still pushing for the Russ Meyer-style fed. RRR: Favourite promotion is a womens fed.

An absolutely awful season.

My ring's outside.

I can't stand JR and am all for him being replaced (by someone better). I don't even think I've even commented on the subject directly, but rather, talked about Mike Goldbergs involvement instead. I don't watch WWE programming because it's boring and I am completely disinterested in it, not because JR is off the show. If the WWE intends on bringing JR back, then the fans who think JR is really fired are being worked. Those fans, however, are most likely writing as people who have read newsreports from guys like Meltzer who are saying that JR is being removed from the announce position, rather than just going on what happened Monday Night. It is so rare that the WWE can actually work its fans -particularly the internet faithful- that they can't resist posting the feedback.

I can think of a few reasons why they'd post it. 1. JR getting fired on TV is a work, or rather a re-work, where they are posting legit feedback to prove that they worked the fans for once. Though it really isn't a work unless Dave Meltzer is in on the work as well, so it's more like the WWE going "Well, we were going to fire JR, but we have no one to replace him with, so lets make this an angle now". 2. The emails are either worked or legit, JR getting fired is a work, and this is just putting "heat" on the WWE -or rather the McMahons- for firing JR. I say the emails may be worked because they are, in a round-about way, mostly complementary to the WWE. Who would ever call WWE programming in 2005 "must watch"? 3. JR really is fired and they are putting negative fan mail up to damage the company.

They're morons. Their voices make me want to rip off my ears. They blatently put themselves together and away from the other 3 group members, and the only reason I can think of is because they all have blonde hair. They basically left the other 3 in the board room to do dick nothing, yet complained about Toral not "stepping up" to wear the fucking costume. As if who wore the costume was the reason for the loss. They knew Toral didn't like the idea yet they decided that she should be the one in the costume, rather than asking for volunteers like the guys did. Toral was a total bitch, contributed nothing and deserved to get fired, but not for this challenge. It was a dumb idea and character, and the PM took pride in not having the DQ brand anywhere on the character. If you are a leader, you take a look at your team and assess their strengths and weaknesses and do the best you can with them. That's not what the PM did.

The 4 Blondes are annoying. Really, really, really, REALLY annoying.

I can't believe I capitalized pride there... too much MMA...