RavishingRickRudo

So this is the guy who fights the Gracies in Pride FC in the screw job matches? By "screw job" do you mean "getting face raped by Ryan Gracies fists"? Or are you referring to PRIDE 15 where Ryan ended up hurting himself and Ishizawa acted like he won the superbowl? Or are you saying he's a tomato can, a jobber, there to make the other fighter look good?

Ummm, I said... that the fans... loved... the crap... they got... during the attitude... era... meaning... the fans THEN... loved crap... And... ummm... I said... that the... fans.... are.... gone...now.... so... clearly... they.... did.... not love... the crap.... for too.... long....or maybe.... just maybe.... the product... wasn't.... the.... actual.... reason.... they were.... watching.... Do you... have a... point? Christ I'm not even going to bother with you, this debate is over. We are agreeing to disagree I don't agree with that. I shall leave you with the great rex harrison line, "if you cant appreciate what you've got then you'd better find something you can appreciate" Are you saying there is something to appreciate with the WWE?

They're both in main events on the biggest PPV ever, and chances are they're probably both walking out with world titles. Especially now with Brock gone. What more do you want? Them looking strong in the process? Besides, Benoit is not only playing 3rd Fiddle to HHH and HBK in this feud (and looking _horrible_ btw), but this feud is playing 4th Fiddle to Foley/Rock, Taker/Kane, and Austin/Lesnar. That puts him... where? "But he's getting the belt!" Eddie's title reign had a 3 week build and they shot him up from the midcard. That's not exactly the most ideal way to push a champion. But hey, they put gold around his waist, what more can they do, right? Do you also hang your hat on Jericho being the FIRST EVER Undisputed Champion?

Marvin, I think Meltzer is actually saying that the Women are on roids as well. Or, at least, "Performance Enhancers".

"Oh, that's just Flair doing what's best for the company; what was he supposed to say?"

LOTC is your girlfriend? RRR: Thinking he read that wrong.

Yeah... it was a little over a decade ago (WM 9 being the last one I really looked forward to.)

Basically, what he did to Doink last year. Me, I would have liked to have seen him do a powerbomb from the top rope

But he wasn't meant to oomph, he was meant to tap Hardy out quickly to sell the crossface.

And I *really* don't understand why this is in Hardcore Discussion as the story is 100% ON TOPIC. The topic being: I'd like some explanation.

Gosh. What an absolutely thought-provoking response. Truly, one that should be put on a pedestal and admired. Why, the seas parted after you posted that one. Such wild analysis and observeration. Please, grace us with another... Perhaps a "This thread is potty" or the classic "+1" that people like you post here so frequently. Maybe one of those hilariously sarcastic "OMG" posts. Now that this thread has graced the much-honoured Hardcore Discussion folder, you can do all these things and more. Oh, a FrigidSoul remark, how my heart beats in anticipation for the next one! Again! Again! At first I thought this thread being in this folder was a bad thing, but my eyes are open now. Open to this new world of irreverent wit and stinging jabs all under the guise of absolutely retarded one-liners.

No, you yourself said you are rarely ever satisfied. So fucking what if Benoit/Brock pleased you? If they aren't going to satisfy you on a regular basis, stop fucking pulling your hair out over it My hair is perfectly in-tact. "So fucking what if Benoit/Brock pleased you?" this coming from a guy who says that I "do nothing but bitch about anything and everything". I can see why you like the WWE, you never hold up to what you say before. Benoit/Brock pleasing me has *everything* to do with this. The fans LOVED the nice circle of shit that we got during most of the attitude era What fans? *Looks out and sees tumble weed roll by*.. most of them left. Once again, you're not even getting my point, which is to say that WWE has always had a pretty low standard, so to go in expecting to see your standard is a little ridiculous... and it's sad that you dont have the same taste in movies as the amazing high standards you set for pro wrestling *Big Laugh* @ "Amazing high standards". I want you to explain that one to me. What, exactly, are my "Amazing high standards"??? An actual build to a match? Something more than just putting a title on a guy? MY GOD! Will anything satisfy me?? Dude, I get your point and your point is wrong. The WWE is fully capable of meeting my standards and have done so in the past. My taste in movies is different from my taste in music and is different from my taste in television. A movie is a singular viewing experience and lives and dies as one; a television show has many episodes and the television shows I usually enjoy have story-arcs and character development that span those many episodes. YOU missed my point, which essentially is, these aren't "low standards" you have, they are NO STANDARDS. At all. No, I enjoy what they're giving to me at the moment, to the point that I watch and enjoy. If you dont like what you're getting, order something else You enjoy shit. Why are you responding to this Bigjig? Why are you having this discussion with me? You clearly don't like what you're reading here, so why don't you go somewhere else? It's a pretty fucking stupid point, don't you think?

I said "trying"

But now that I think of it... This is probably my best creative work. I weaved together the "Funaki: Scientist from the future", "StormMaster - super-villian", and managed to merge it successfully with the "Matt Hardy: Big Stinkin Loser" storyline and actually kept the concept of "losing" throughout. The play-on names, I felt, didn't get the respect it deserved. John Heidenreich as "Hide" is a stroke of genius as it plays off his name "Heid" and his character (Bi-Polar) in a Jeckyll & Hyde sorta way. Lady Insane T.A. is a personal favourite of mine. Acronyms R.O.K. (Rule Our Kingdom). DOOMSTORM has so much potential too it, as he can play up both Doom and Storm elements in his promo. The twist with Lance Storm at the end, I felt, was extremely well done and really fit into the storyline; it's the crown jewel of the storyline and Funaki causing his own future's downfall is a mindbender. But what I am most proud of with this DOOMSTORM storyline, it could honestly go on for a while. There's so much stuff to it and so much potential and so many characters and plot twists that it could go on for almost a year. Staring off with Matt Hardy losing, then him trying to be Hurricanes lackey, then trying to take out Rosie, then trying to take out Hurricane, then becoming Professor Doom, then becoming DOOMSTORM, then Rosie becoming a Superhero, then Jeff Hardy coming in, then Lita... etc. etc. etc. It keeps going and it's seamless with each plot twist and turn enhancing the story. Each character has his/her motivation and the themes of loss and following and destiny run throughout. Is it a classic? I don't know, it's all me and Classic threads should be about a group of people creating something. I think it's really good work that should deserve some recognition, but a classic?

Glad to see you on-board Kotz. For a second there I thought you were trying to be a dick.

You're arguing the entirely wrong point here. You didnt even address my points about how this is the f'ing WWE here where the so called high standards you demand do not exist nor have they existed, at least not in a very very long time. What *the fuck* are you talking about. I responded with Brock/Benoit which happened only 3 months ago. Does that qualify as a "very very long time" in your world? They reached that level and it was actually quite easy. The "high standards I demand" DO exist and that's why I have them. I don't expect them to give me a ***** match every single night along with rich storylines full of plottwists as well as deep characters with many levels to them. I expect them to give me something GOOD. But, apparently, "GOOD" is too high and I am supposed to settle for "At least it's not the worst show ever". I don't set my standards so high for the WWE product because I know I'm not going to get it. And with that attitude from the fans, they will never feel the need to elevate their product to a respectible level. It's a nice circle of shit. It's like going into a movie like "Dude, wheres my car" and expecting from the very beginning, to see a film like Schindler's List, and then BITCHING about it after you walk out of the theater. I don't expect to see Schindlers's List. Hell, I liked "Dude, where's my car" more than Schindler's List so the point isn't very effective on me (but I'll play anyways). Even "Dude, where's my car" had character development (and different characters) and didn't completely forget for happened in the last scene or drop characters out of nowhere (or change their names). It at least had a creative throughline. I don't expect it to be an all-time-classic, but I expect it to have the fucking basics, at least, and not completely insult my intelligence. You know why I have low standards for WWE? Because I KNOW I'm not going to get high standards! I enjoy it for what it is So you enjoy pure shit. Celebrate that; it looks good on you.

Well, this thread is dead. Who was the fucking ad wizard who moved it?

Ok, you're wrong. But that's ok, I get you. Benoit does have that aura, he proved it against Al Snow at ECW Double Tables. It wasn't to make the point that Benoit is better than other guys, it was to get over the crossface - hence the quick nature of the tap out. "Big Fucking Loser" Matt Hardy isn't exactly the best one to beat.

http://www.creative-insanity.net/voice/deaniemiscvids.html http://www.creative-insanity.net/voice/videos/fireflyhq.wmv Ok, the bottom WMV file is of an AWESOME music video montage of Firefly that every time I watch it brings a smile to my face. Just great work here and I recommend it for anyone and everyone. As good as Metro's movie trailer was (and it was very good) this is just the best I've seen. I love it.

This feud is fully of shitty workers: John Heidenreich, Rosie, Lita, Stevie Richards... it's not like the focus is on work here. This is a story-driven feud and Jeff Hardy returning to save his brother makes sense.

The Freedom 4ce face off against the Sons of DOOM in 4 separate singles matches (the stipulation being, if they can win 2 of the 3 matches, Hurricane would get to fight DOOMSTORM): SR Sinister vs. KID OUTRAGEOUS SuperRosie vs. Hide Princess Doom vs. Lady Insane T.A. All 3 matches are very quickly and very easily won by 3 of the 4 and when it comes time for Hurricane vs. DOOMSTORM, DOOMSTORM skips town. The next week, back in the White Castle of DOOM, DOOMSTORM finally gives SR Sinister his wish and lets him drink from the Flask of DOOM which contains the Hurrijuice. He also gives some to Hide and Princess DOOM and looks into the camera and challenges the Freedom 4ce to a 4 on 4 match up. Hurricane responds to their challenge and accepts, with the stipulation being that DOOMSTORM must unmask if he loses and disband the Sons of DOOM. After Hurricane accepts the challenge, Lance Storm -someone who was on a bit of a losing streak himself- asks if he can join the Freedom 4ce. Hurricane, knowing there are strength in numbers, lets Lance join; but says he can't drink Formula H2X unless they really need him. The next week DOOMSTORM accepts Hurricanes stipulations and the match is made. A brawl ensues inside the ring between the Freedom 4ce and the Sons of DOOM and it seems to go the F4ce's way until DOOMSTORM attacks Lance Storm and takes him hostage (Storm having been the official "cape holder"). This forces the F4ce to stand-down and for the Sons of DOOM to escape. The week after DOOMSTORM offers Lance Storms' safety for another stipulation; if HE wins, then he gets Formula H2X. Hurricane reluctantly agrees and Lance is let go unharmed. The 4 on 4 survivor series style match has the Freedom 4ce dominating already eliminating Princess Doom and SR Sinister. Hide and SuperRosie brawl to the back where Rosie is taken out mysteriously and Hide returns to the ring with a smile on his face. Lance and Funaki see to Rosie and he's done. The Sons of DOOM cheat and get KID OUTRAGEOUS DQ'd as well and then take out Lady Insane T.A. Only the Hurricane is left. Storm pleads with Funaki to give him Formula H2X so he can go save Hurricane and prevent the Formula from going into the wrong hands and Funaki eventually agrees. Lance drinks from the bottle and they cut back to the ring. Lance runs down and gets in Hurricanes corner "officially" taking Rosies place. Just when Hurricane is about to make the tag, Storm jumps down from the apron and grins. DOOMSTORM and Hide continue to beat up Hurricane as Lance leaves the ring much to the disappointment and bewilderment of Lady Insane T.A. and KID OUTRAGEOUS. Hurricane eventually gets pinned and Sons of DOOM celebrate. The next week the Sons of DOOM enter the ring holding Formula H2X and each take a sip of it. DOOMSTORM: I was once Matt Hardy, the sensei of Mattitude... a real loser. Then I became Professor Doom and I learned something; that being evil feels real good! And then, after I drank the Hurrijuice, I learned something more; that winning feels good. And I have to say that winning last week and winning this Formula H2X feels damn good! And I'd like to say that this was all part of my masterplan. That I was the mastermind behind every step. But I was but a mere pawn in the game, hahaha... because the real master... the real master power behind it all was... *the lights go dark* *lightning strikes inside the arena and thunder claps* *A light hits the entrance way and a figure is revealed* DOOMSTORM: MASTER! MASTER! HAAHAHAH! MASTER!!! YOU'RE HERE!!! HHAHAHAHA *The figure moves towards the ring* *The Sons of DOOM move to let the figure in* *The lights turn on again and a fog is in the ring* *An almost Skeletorian figure is in the ring* DOOMSTORM: Ladies and Gentlemen.. THE STORM MASTER!!!!!!!!! StormMASTER: Thank you kind DOOMSTORM, you're loyalty will be well rewarded in the future... hehehehhahahhahahahaa. JR: What the? StormMASTER: You see, I was never a loser. NEVER. I just played my part like everyone else. But I knew, I knew my time would come. My TIME would come. heheh... and that time came when you, Funaki, revealed who you truly were. And that is when I realized my true destiny... so I came to the Hurricane and asked for a spot on the team, and I knew you wouldn't give me the Formula right away, but I knew that if I secretly alligned with the Sons of DOOM, that I could use my mind... my mastermind... to trick you all into giving it to me. Irony can be so Ironic sometimes, eh Funaki? You came back to stop a "Storm" from brewing, all this time you thought it was DOOMSTORM, when in reality, you created it and it's me! ME! THE StormMASTER!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH!~ THE WORLD IS MINE! JR: OH MY GOD, I think I'm going to be sick!

RRR: Hasn't even started.

*back from commercial* *The Freedom 4ce look stunned* KID OUTRAGEOUS: Uh... so lemme get you straight... you're a scientist... Lady Insane T.A.: From the future?... SuperRosie: And you're here to stop Matt Hardy, I mean, DOOMSTORM from taking over the world... Hurricane: Whatsupwitdat?!! Funaki: I know it sounds strange, but you have to believe me. KID OUTRAGEOUS: Funaki, it doesn't just sound strange, it sounds absolutely crazy, man. How can you even prove that? Funaki: With this... *Funaki pulls a bottle out of his pocket marked "Formula H2X"* Hurricane: Hey, that looks like... Funaki: Hurrijuice... vastly improved Hurrijuice, actually. In the future rebel forces and scientists were able to finally create a formula more powerful than the original Formula H and eventually we took DOOMSTORM down. Hurricane: So why are you here, then? In the future you've won... Funaki: No... there were too many lost... too many people dead... No Sports Entertainment left... I had to come back to prevent it from ever happening. But I came back too early and my mind was effected by the time travel... I randomly went around trying to find my way and after a few years I finally remembered my mission but I forgot who the target was... all I could remember was one word and that was "Storm". Lady Insane T.A.: DOOMSTORM Funaki: Yes... KID OUTRAGEOUS: So lets pretend you are telling the truth.. what do you want US to do? Funaki: I want you to drink this and I want you to continue fighting. *Points to the Hurrijuice* Funaki: It should be enough to beat them.. Hurricane: Well, I don't plan on giving up... *Hurricane takes the Hurrijuice and drinks and passes it to SuperRosie* SuperRosie: I'm with ya Hurricane! *SuperRosie drinks* *KID OUTRAGEOUS looks at Lady Insane T.A.* KID OUTRAGEOUS.: Well, it won't be the first strange liquid I'd swallow and it won't be the last. *KID OUTRAGEOUS drinks* Lady Insane T.A.: Oh, TAG. *Lady Insane T.A. tags KID OUTRAGEOUS and then drinks the Hurrijuice* Lady Insane T.A.: Well, I don't feel any different. Funaki: Don't worry, you will soon enough... *Hurricane screams as a really cheap, fake, computer generated light begins to glow around him* JR: What the hell! *Commercial*

Jesus Christ Rico, can't you see that they're building him up for something big?!?! God you're an idiot. What a stupid, stupid, idiot you are. What stupid things you say... Now, lemme get back to my story about Matt Hardy being an evil villain who drinks Hurrijuice and how Funaki will affect the storyline in a profound way..

Ok, just to freshen everyone up: The Freedom 4ce: Hurricane - the fearless leader (real life name: Gregory Helms) KID OUTRAGEOUS - the loner; he is Hurricanes equal, but realizes his role in the group (real name: Jeff Hardy). SuperRosie - Hurricanes follower; the muscle of the group (real name: Rosie) Lady Insane T.A. - the female warrior of the group; she follows KID OUTRAGEOUS (played by Lita). They both know this Comic Book stuff is lame, but they want to save Matt Hardy who has been consumed by it; so they have to play his game to break him free.. vs. The Sons of DOOM: DOOMSTORM - the evil leader, formerly Professor Doom, but after drinking the Hurrijuice in hopes of breaking his losing streak, became merged with the Superhuman powers of the Hurricane and became DOOMSTORM. (Real life name: Unknown... it's Matt Hardy) SR Sinister: The lacky (Real name: Stevie Richards). Also tired of losing, he follows DOOMSTORM in hopes of one day getting to drink the Hurrijuice which DOOMSTORM posses. Hide: The Muscle (Real Name: John Heidenreich). Conflicted about who he is, he turns to DOOMSTORM for guidance. DOOMSTORM tells him that evil is the only way to go. Princess Doom: Formerly "Mighty Molly", Hurricanes former helper, and recently shaved bald, she has fallen for DOOMSTORM who doesn't care about her looks, but rather, the champion she is. (Real name: Molly Holly) ------------ With the Sons of DOOM, DOOMSTORM is able to soundly defeat the Freedom 4ce. When it seems that all hope is lost, an unlikely figure comes to RAW to lend a hand. *Scene opens with The Freedom 4ce licking their wounds and about to give up* KID OUTRAGEOUS: Listen guys, I really hate to say it but, they're stronger than us. We've been getting our ass kicked for weeks and we can't find any one else on the roster to help us out. SuperRosie: Yeah, and DOOMSTORM has the Hurrijuice and as long as he has that he'll never lose. Hurricane: What are you all trying to say? That we should just GIVE UP?! That evil has triumphed over good! No way! Never! Lady Insane T.A.: Listen Hurricane, we all want to save Matt... I mean, DOOMSTORM, but the more we lose to him the deeper he goes into this character he's created. The more he believes its true. I think it's best that we just let this play it's course, he'll snap out of it eventually. *An unknown figure enters the room in a trench coat* Unknown Figure: I'm not so shua ... about that. *Everyones attention turns to the Unknown figure* Lady Insane T.A.: Who are you? UF: That's... not... impo-tant SuperRosie: Hey, you're Funaki! From Smackdown. Hurricane: Yeah, I recognize that voice from anywhere. SuperRosie: Smackudown Numba 1 Announca! *Funaki takes off trench coat and reveals a lab coat under it* Funaki: Please, I have something important to say about Matt Hardy. He will not stop, he will take over RAW and then Smackdown and then... the world. You must stop him down before it's too late. Lady Insane T.A.: Oh come on, that will never happen. World Domination? You've got to be kidding me. Funaki: Please, I am serious. KID OUTRAGEOUS: Funaki, Matt is just one man - just a wrestler, that's impossible.. he won't take over the world. Funaki: He will.... he... he has... in my time... KID OUTRAGEOUS: What? JR: WHAT? *Commercial*