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Andre, clearly, had control over the match (pace, what moves were done) since he dominated it. However *much* of that match was made by Hogan and his selling.

I think you understand why Andre/Hogan isn't on there. BECAUSE IT SUCKED. Ok, but the category isn't "best", it's "greatest". Different factors are involved in judging it. Besides, that match didn't suck. Wrestling is 2 things and that was one of them; drama. Storytelling. It wasn't high on technique (the "other thing"), but then again, neither was Hart/Austin. Why Hart/Austin was so good was because of its story and how it was shown through the match. Hogan/Andre was a great story and they did a good job in telling it. It's not the "best" WM match, but I'd go-as-so-far-as-to-say it's "one of" the greatest.

The WWE is clueless. They'll put it in a smaller arena, have the lil logo at the bottom of the screen, and have some of their hardcore matches and say it's ECW. Meanwhile, the Camera work will be the same, the cliches will be the same, the ring will be the same, the style will be the same. It will be ECWWE; a sheep in wolf's clothing.

You're not getting it AS. They aren't "dropping down", they're elevating the titles. I mean, Austin and HHH did such a good job at bringing respectibility to the IC and Tag titles that its sure to work again here.

But AS, who cares about the details of the storyline, they will have great workrate!!!!!!!!!!!! The ends damn sure justify the means here. WORKRATE!!! Who cares if it's surrounded by a illogical, nonsensical, moronic storyline? WORKRATE!!!!!! Why, Brock/Angle was the Feud of the Year for 2003 and it didn't make a lick of sense! WORKRATE!!!!!!

I don't understand why anyone would discuss/argue/debate this with a person who says "fuck logic". You can't reason with someone who denies reason.

Yeah, Owen singing, them running on the beach together, the car stuff, and the end especially, the camera work; there's stuff there for the TV show fans.. but it's mostly Wilson/Stiller movie directed by Todd Philips.

You make it sound like another "Power Trip" would be a good thing; as if it was successful before to pair together two guys who supposedly hate each other.

Wow, you're still banging that drum, eh? Holy High Expectations Batman~!

There, I edited it for you.

Why post what you just posted? To express dissatisfaction. Duh.

1. World Title (Raw) Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs. HHH © Winner: Not me 2. WWE Title (Smackdown) Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero © Winner: Don't care. 3. Handicap Match : Mick Foley/Rock vs. Ric Flair/Batista/Randy Orton Winner: Foley wins here, Orton wins the blowoff. Unless they'll pull a HHH and have Orton go over both PPV events... which is likely, but think of the pop Foley would get in MSG; of course, think of the boos Orton would get... I think they might be thinking about the boos, but I'll stick with Foley. 4. Kane vs. Undertaker Winner: Don't care. 5. Fatal Four way for the WWE tag titles (Smackdown) – APA vs. WGTT (Haas/Benjamin) vs. Basham Brothers vs. Rikishi/Scotty 2 Hotty © Winner: Don't care. 6. Fatal Four was for the World Tag Titles (Raw) – Dudleys vs. Lance Cade/Mark Jindrak vs. La Resitance vs. Rob Van Dam/Booker T © Winner: Don't care 7. Hair vs. Title – Molly Holly vs. Victoria © Winner: Don't care 8. Cruiserweight Open – Billy Kidman, Rey Mysterio, Ultimo Dragon, Tajiri, Jamie Knoble, Sho Funaki, Nunzio, Shannon Moore, Akio, and Chavo Guerrero © Winner: Chavo... if they wanted to stir it up, Dragon. Then you could have a 3 way feud between him, Rey, and Chavo. You could get away with throwing Noble and Tajiri in there too. That could be one interesting cruiserweight feud; it would really help the division. 9. Bill Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar Winner: Austin, duh. 10. Playboy Evening Gown Match - Sable/Torrie vs. Miss Jackie/Stacy Winner: 12 year old boys and 45 year old men everywhere. I am neither. 11. US Championship – John Cena vs. Big Show © Winner: The epic feud ends here? GASP. I cannot even begin to imagine. Why, my heart skips a beat just thinking about it. What an all-time classic. 12. Christian vs. Chris Jericho Winner: Don't care.

Yes, however the introduction of the two characters is an integral plot point; The Train Job did a poor job of doing that so I can easily see Joss doing it again for the purpose of the movie.

Molly's psycho-ish? Yeah, she "snaps". She's basically playing Victorias old character.

They'll shave Molly because it makes her different from the others and it visually adds to her psycho-ish character.

But it also says this: The film centers on a veteran captain of a galactic war, who, with a small crew, rents out his ship, Serenity, for the purposes of transport-for-hire and pulling off small crimes. When the captain takes on two new passengers, he soon learns that they are hotly pursued fugitives from the coalition controlling the universe. A whole host of trouble follows for the captain and his fearless crew, as they find themselves the prey of evil forces that they are ill equipped to evade.

Well, he wrote Out of Gas.

What are the standards for "Best", "Worst", and "Greatest"?? I mean, WM III had Steamboat/Savage and Hogan/Andre on it, yet WM 13 had Bret/Austin. Bret/Austin was a better match than Steamboat/Savage and arguably had greater influence/impact than Hogan/Andre. I'm not saying that WM 13 was better than WM III, I'm just saying that if you're using those two factors in considering WM III, why aren't you using it across the board? Also, if you're taking hype and attendance in consideration, how can you justify that under the "best" column? I'm thinking that not a lot of thought was put into either of these lists.

Wow, 35 mil. That's impressive. They're actually getting behind it. But shit, no Minear, that sucks the ass.

Jackie Gayda after she takes off her top. Or should I say, after she gets "exposed" in a Janet Jackson-esque moment.

WE DON'T KNOW! *breaks down and cries* Joss has said that he resolves some issues left in the series for the hardcores, but it's made for the uninitiated viewer. The article said that it's done "6 months after" the last episode, but then it talks about the film being about Simon and River getting on the ship.

Deep down inside, he loves Randy Orton. Edit: GODDAMMIT! That was meant for Sault. I'm still keeping it because of it's double entendre.

I have a confession to make.... .... I am Fabio. Czech, I still have some of your stuff sitting around in a box, you can pick it up any time.

Well, saying that Adam Baldwin has a role in a episode isn't really spoiling anything Yes and No. It's could be a nice surprise for Firefly fans which may be greater seeing on tv than on a computer screen. Either way, it is a significant development in the show so one could consider it a spoiler. I think the 2 other returnees is much more important, however

So does Book and a daughter; they're both ways of helping develop a character quickly, but as a hardcore Firefly fan, I don't want to see shit taking away from the series. The concept of "new characters" is just disturbing.