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According to the standard WWE contract sample showed here a while back...Vince isnt liable to pay Eddie's family shit...so they are prolly doing this to stay on payroll

ok whos looking forward to Cena's 2nd album???

That shit was suppose to be released in June of last year, I doubt they'll ever release it. Fuck Def Jam and blackballin Budden. yep..they'll prolly drop another Bleek album before Budden..thats fuckin sad

very fucked up..rip

in the United States court you would need proof....if Bin Laden was alive and had a fair trial here..he would be acquitted Are you serious? Who would possibly acquit him? of course they WOULDNT acquit him because it wouldnt be a fair trial...but im just saying if it was 100% fair...there isnt proof that he was behind it at all...whats the proof?..a grainy video of him with botched translation?....seriously...but hes dead so whatever....I would like to hear a reason beside "because the President said so" or "the 9/11 Commission said so" or "it was on TV

basically lol and tying back to the original post..I see the same naive way of thinking in new orleans as I see here in Detroit

well it was like 5-6 am writing that lol...Detroit did put on a great super bowl when they swept all the bums and hookers off the streets and sent them away for a while...but im sure its back to normal now but its pretty simple...shortly before and definitely after the 1967 riots..whites got concerned about their safety and dwindling property values so they decided to move north to places like Southfield and Ferndale and became successful cities and blacks started to catch on moving to those places..so in the past 20-25 years...whites started migrating even northern like west bloomfield and orchard lake...whites took their money out of refurbishing detroit and keeping it modern..rather building Oakland County and also Macomb County...as a result..many parts of Detroit still seems untouched from the 60s...even going down Gratiot..I still see 1967 grafitti...as for visiting Detroit...downtown is cool..just watch your back..but thats anywhere

Monk won 3 rings with a different QB and RB each time...and no one in history had more catches when he retired..its flat out foolish to compare him to Irving Fryar...if Monk doesnt get in...wtf is the hall of fame for?

No wonder you're so bitter no comment

basically...my view on the NFL basically changed for good..I just care about the Lions now and that would be it..aside from that..the damage was done....whether the refs were bias...NFL gotta rebuild its image because there are many that question the legitiamacy..thats serious....but its over

1 big diff was that Art Monk was number 1 in receptions when he retired...Bettis isnt the all time leader in anything..counts for something...right?

yeah Seattle had more yards,dominated time of possession, and had less turnovers and lost by 11...they put theirselves in position to score more but it was taken away...if a football game...especially in a title game..u only make so many big plays....and im not trolling..I could give a flying fuck about either team..im a Lions fan...but a fair football game is a fair game...if officiating is like how it was yesterday...why watch?

Yes, there were some horrible calls in that game....but the fact is that, after all these bad calls, Seattle was only down 14-10 at the start of the 4th quarter and had a whole 15 minutes to score just once to take the lead, but they played like shit and got nothing. Seattle lost that game, no one else lost it for them. I don't disagree with you, but the phantom hold that took back a play that would have got the ball at the Pittsburgh 2 happened in the 4th quarter if I remember correctly. Hasselbeck promptly threw a pick a couple of plays later on 3rd and long. If Seattle scores and goes up 17-14, or even kicks a field goal it's a one possession game. In any case, Seattle didn't deserve to win, but then again neither did Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh deserved to win because they successfully made the big plays that win football games. They showed more character. Seattle had some bad breaks (although overexaggerated by some here) but if they made the two field goals, caught passes in bounds, didn't drop passes, managed the clock better and had better play calling, they could've won too. They didn't. Pittsburgh didn't let opportunities escape them despite a sub par performance overall. its hard to let opportunities escape when u are handed a 21 pt swing and ya opponent had 161 yards taking away in penalties and callbacks Wow. Let me ask you this. If Pittsburgh overcame bad officiating in Indy to win, why couldn't Seattle??? My answer. Pittsburgh played their best football against Indy and Seattle didn't play their best against Pittsburgh. This is the reason they lost the game. How many times does someone have to call attention to the missed field goals, dropped passes, no running game, routine punts into the endzone when they could have pinned a struggling Steelers offense deep in their own territory and just overall terrible coaching and clock management? The Steelers didn't play great football but those big plays that the offense executed won the game and their defense didn't blow big plays like the Parker run and the Randel El - Ward reverse. And where are you coming up with Pittsburgh being handed 21 points? 14 of those 21 Pittsburgh points were because Seattle's defense dropped the ball on coverages, had nothing to do with officiating. A 75 yard running play that had they watched the tapes they would have seen Parker break against Cleveland I believe. A reverse pass using Randel El with Hines off to himself that they pretty much ran fairly similar in the Cinci playoff game. And Cowher would have likely went for the seven on the fourth and inches whether the Ben TD was called back or not so that likely would have been another a TD. I would have preferred a Steeler victory where there were no blown calls and no excuses. The NFL has a problem with their officiating and it needs to be addressed and taken care of, no argument from me there. Turning a blind eye to what really cost Seattle this game will get an argument from me. the OPI on Jackson=7 pts holding on Locklear=possible 7pts Roethlisberger TD=7 pts and im not even mentioning the horse collar..the 15 yd penalty on Hasselbeck for 'blocking' that set up the Randle El pass..the horrible spot on the Mack Strong run...the 34 yard punt return called back, etc every single questionable call went against Seattle..if it were just bad refs...there woulda been bad calls both ways..this deserves federal investigation..seriously....I remember listening to Jay and Michelle on 97.1 last week and a brother of a ref said that the NFL wanted the Steelers to win...they hung up on him..he doesnt look so crazy today the OPI on Jackson=7 pts: the right call, he pushed him off holding on Locklear=possible 7pts: possible being the key word, could have easily been three Roethlisberger TD=7 pts: and had the call been reversed, it would have either been 3 points or a fairly easy QB sneak or Bettis push over the goal line for 7 the 15 yd penalty on Hasselbeck for 'blocking' that set up the Randle El pass: The interception set up the Randle El pass, the block gave them better field position but so would 15 yds accumulated with some run or passing plays. not to mention that Hines was open by about ten yards. I remember listening to Jay and Michelle on 97.1 last week and a brother of a ref said that the NFL wanted the Steelers to win...they hung up on him..he doesnt look so crazy today: Yes, the league officials made sure that Josh Brown couldn't make two field goal attempts, Shaun Alexander's presence amounted to nothing (i was shocked to see he had 95 yds total rushing), four punts went for touchbacks, big pass plays were dropped and the Hawks couldn't get their offensive play calling together to get some additional points at the end of the first half or at the end of the 4th quarter. Jackson did not push off...yes he placed his hands on the guy but they were touching each other the whole route...the corner didnt budge and it was a ticky tack call at best and no way Cowher would have tried that trick play at his own 28...starting at the 43 instead made it much easier...and what makes u think ben or bettis would have gotten in from the 1 when seattle stopped them 3 times earlier?...it would have been 4th and goal....the seahawks had 1st and goal from the 2...big difference..my main point is that...sure Seattle could have overcome the descrepancy...but why would they have to?...the game is at travesty on every level and it fucked up the legitimacy of the NFL in my eyes You just said that Jackson placed his hands on the guy. That's interference. Cowher wouldn't have tried that trick play on his own 28 but what makes you think they wouldn't have got the ball down to 43 and then tried the trick play? Better yet, had that Seattle fumble not been overturned (how dare those officials keep Seattle in the game), Pittsburgh would have had the ball in Seattle territory and they could have run the trick play then or scored an additional seven points which probably still wouldn't shut you and the other 'we were robbed' people up. How do I know that Pittsburgh would have got in on 4th and goal? I've watched them do it in the pass, whether it was Ben, Bettis, Staley or freakin' Kordell Stewart. I'm thinking Cowher would have played it safe and went for three though but if you can play this, "well, if that didn't happen, this would've happened' game, I can too. You are assmuming that Ben wouldn't have got a TD on 4th down, they wouldn't have scored seven points if Pittsburgh didn't get fifteen yards on the chop block and Seattle's offense could have easily got seven on three downs within the 2yd line had it not been for that holding call. But Pittsburgh did make the big plays and Seattle did make the mistakes they made outside of the questionable officiating. How about this, if Seattle would have made the same big plays that Pittsburgh made, had competency on all levels of their play from their receivers, kicker, special teams, etc. they would have STILL won the game even with questionable calls. You say, why did they have to, they had it won but those biased officials! Because it's football. It's the NFL and the officials are morons for the most part. Why did Pittsburgh have to play so hard in Indianapolis when they outplayed them the entire game? The NFL officials are bad. No doubt about it. But the Seahawks lost this game because they imploded and made too many mistakes, penalties are mistakes too. The refs made some mistakes but not as many as the Seahawks who had every opportunity to win this game and couldn't. I could sit here and say that Pittsburgh's offense wouldn't have had such a terrible start had those lousy officials not called false starts on their first possession. I could put it in slo-mo and analyze whether someone on the defensive line motioned or if Heath Miller had a muscle spasm that looked like a movement when it wasn't. I could speculate that had that call not been called Ben would have connected 80 yards for a TD to Hines Ward. I could replay the Seattle fumble and argue that Pittsburgh's defender barely grazed his shirt and that he wasn't down by contact, just as you do with the OPI call. But as a Steeler fan, I don't have to do that because Pittsburgh didn't f*ck up despite not performing at the level they should've. Seattle did. yep u are a steelers fan...nice that u had to type a 1 page paper to justify the win...but yeah jackson and the DB had their hands on each other...so at worse the penalties offset right?...but the ref let it go til the last min..y?..but 1st and goal..4 chances..4th and goal..1 chance....but enjoy the win..Pittsburgh teams dont win often..I know I do when my teams win

yes there is holding on every play...just decided to call when its Seattle does it I see

do give examples I don't need to answer to you when there already are examples in this thread. If you ignore them, then nothing I tell you is going to be different. so i'll take that as a no

didnt ask u..but are u talking about the play where Haggans jumped offside against the RIGHT tackle? ok

do give examples

he said if u need every questionable call to win then u dont deserve to win...thats exactly with the steelers did...I got his point u dumb fuck...but whatever...we all saw the same game...

but wtf was hasselbeck blocking for if he was on defense?...seriously....referees need to be fired for these bad calls...only way to send a message

and the Steelers DID get all the questionable calls and won...ok

Yes, there were some horrible calls in that game....but the fact is that, after all these bad calls, Seattle was only down 14-10 at the start of the 4th quarter and had a whole 15 minutes to score just once to take the lead, but they played like shit and got nothing. Seattle lost that game, no one else lost it for them. I don't disagree with you, but the phantom hold that took back a play that would have got the ball at the Pittsburgh 2 happened in the 4th quarter if I remember correctly. Hasselbeck promptly threw a pick a couple of plays later on 3rd and long. If Seattle scores and goes up 17-14, or even kicks a field goal it's a one possession game. In any case, Seattle didn't deserve to win, but then again neither did Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh deserved to win because they successfully made the big plays that win football games. They showed more character. Seattle had some bad breaks (although overexaggerated by some here) but if they made the two field goals, caught passes in bounds, didn't drop passes, managed the clock better and had better play calling, they could've won too. They didn't. Pittsburgh didn't let opportunities escape them despite a sub par performance overall. its hard to let opportunities escape when u are handed a 21 pt swing and ya opponent had 161 yards taking away in penalties and callbacks Wow. Let me ask you this. If Pittsburgh overcame bad officiating in Indy to win, why couldn't Seattle??? My answer. Pittsburgh played their best football against Indy and Seattle didn't play their best against Pittsburgh. This is the reason they lost the game. How many times does someone have to call attention to the missed field goals, dropped passes, no running game, routine punts into the endzone when they could have pinned a struggling Steelers offense deep in their own territory and just overall terrible coaching and clock management? The Steelers didn't play great football but those big plays that the offense executed won the game and their defense didn't blow big plays like the Parker run and the Randel El - Ward reverse. And where are you coming up with Pittsburgh being handed 21 points? 14 of those 21 Pittsburgh points were because Seattle's defense dropped the ball on coverages, had nothing to do with officiating. A 75 yard running play that had they watched the tapes they would have seen Parker break against Cleveland I believe. A reverse pass using Randel El with Hines off to himself that they pretty much ran fairly similar in the Cinci playoff game. And Cowher would have likely went for the seven on the fourth and inches whether the Ben TD was called back or not so that likely would have been another a TD. I would have preferred a Steeler victory where there were no blown calls and no excuses. The NFL has a problem with their officiating and it needs to be addressed and taken care of, no argument from me there. Turning a blind eye to what really cost Seattle this game will get an argument from me. the OPI on Jackson=7 pts holding on Locklear=possible 7pts Roethlisberger TD=7 pts and im not even mentioning the horse collar..the 15 yd penalty on Hasselbeck for 'blocking' that set up the Randle El pass..the horrible spot on the Mack Strong run...the 34 yard punt return called back, etc every single questionable call went against Seattle..if it were just bad refs...there woulda been bad calls both ways..this deserves federal investigation..seriously....I remember listening to Jay and Michelle on 97.1 last week and a brother of a ref said that the NFL wanted the Steelers to win...they hung up on him..he doesnt look so crazy today the OPI on Jackson=7 pts: the right call, he pushed him off holding on Locklear=possible 7pts: possible being the key word, could have easily been three Roethlisberger TD=7 pts: and had the call been reversed, it would have either been 3 points or a fairly easy QB sneak or Bettis push over the goal line for 7 the 15 yd penalty on Hasselbeck for 'blocking' that set up the Randle El pass: The interception set up the Randle El pass, the block gave them better field position but so would 15 yds accumulated with some run or passing plays. not to mention that Hines was open by about ten yards. I remember listening to Jay and Michelle on 97.1 last week and a brother of a ref said that the NFL wanted the Steelers to win...they hung up on him..he doesnt look so crazy today: Yes, the league officials made sure that Josh Brown couldn't make two field goal attempts, Shaun Alexander's presence amounted to nothing (i was shocked to see he had 95 yds total rushing), four punts went for touchbacks, big pass plays were dropped and the Hawks couldn't get their offensive play calling together to get some additional points at the end of the first half or at the end of the 4th quarter. Jackson did not push off...yes he placed his hands on the guy but they were touching each other the whole route...the corner didnt budge and it was a ticky tack call at best and no way Cowher would have tried that trick play at his own 28...starting at the 43 instead made it much easier...and what makes u think ben or bettis would have gotten in from the 1 when seattle stopped them 3 times earlier?...it would have been 4th and goal....the seahawks had 1st and goal from the 2...big difference..my main point is that...sure Seattle could have overcome the descrepancy...but why would they have to?...the game is at travesty on every level and it fucked up the legitimacy of the NFL in my eyes

in the United States court you would need proof....if Bin Laden was alive and had a fair trial here..he would be acquitted

Would the sound of someone flying a jet into your house be enough to wake you up? sure it would...but it wouldnt be as a result from a guy that has been dead for 5 years

Yes, there were some horrible calls in that game....but the fact is that, after all these bad calls, Seattle was only down 14-10 at the start of the 4th quarter and had a whole 15 minutes to score just once to take the lead, but they played like shit and got nothing. Seattle lost that game, no one else lost it for them. I don't disagree with you, but the phantom hold that took back a play that would have got the ball at the Pittsburgh 2 happened in the 4th quarter if I remember correctly. Hasselbeck promptly threw a pick a couple of plays later on 3rd and long. If Seattle scores and goes up 17-14, or even kicks a field goal it's a one possession game. In any case, Seattle didn't deserve to win, but then again neither did Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh deserved to win because they successfully made the big plays that win football games. They showed more character. Seattle had some bad breaks (although overexaggerated by some here) but if they made the two field goals, caught passes in bounds, didn't drop passes, managed the clock better and had better play calling, they could've won too. They didn't. Pittsburgh didn't let opportunities escape them despite a sub par performance overall. its hard to let opportunities escape when u are handed a 21 pt swing and ya opponent had 161 yards taking away in penalties and callbacks Wow. Let me ask you this. If Pittsburgh overcame bad officiating in Indy to win, why couldn't Seattle??? My answer. Pittsburgh played their best football against Indy and Seattle didn't play their best against Pittsburgh. This is the reason they lost the game. How many times does someone have to call attention to the missed field goals, dropped passes, no running game, routine punts into the endzone when they could have pinned a struggling Steelers offense deep in their own territory and just overall terrible coaching and clock management? The Steelers didn't play great football but those big plays that the offense executed won the game and their defense didn't blow big plays like the Parker run and the Randel El - Ward reverse. And where are you coming up with Pittsburgh being handed 21 points? 14 of those 21 Pittsburgh points were because Seattle's defense dropped the ball on coverages, had nothing to do with officiating. A 75 yard running play that had they watched the tapes they would have seen Parker break against Cleveland I believe. A reverse pass using Randel El with Hines off to himself that they pretty much ran fairly similar in the Cinci playoff game. And Cowher would have likely went for the seven on the fourth and inches whether the Ben TD was called back or not so that likely would have been another a TD. I would have preferred a Steeler victory where there were no blown calls and no excuses. The NFL has a problem with their officiating and it needs to be addressed and taken care of, no argument from me there. Turning a blind eye to what really cost Seattle this game will get an argument from me. the OPI on Jackson=7 pts holding on Locklear=possible 7pts Roethlisberger TD=7 pts and im not even mentioning the horse collar..the 15 yd penalty on Hasselbeck for 'blocking' that set up the Randle El pass..the horrible spot on the Mack Strong run...the 34 yard punt return called back, etc every single questionable call went against Seattle..if it were just bad refs...there woulda been bad calls both ways..this deserves federal investigation..seriously....I remember listening to Jay and Michelle on 97.1 last week and a brother of a ref said that the NFL wanted the Steelers to win...they hung up on him..he doesnt look so crazy today