The crusade against the Canadian Alliance.

[Guest Shaved Bear]

hmmm Bear ponders joining the alliance

[Guest Anglesault]

less of an impules to impose it's will on other burgeoning nations like assholes" then yes,yes we are.

 

Hey, we do more good than harm...for the most part.

[Guest Angle-plex]

We can be the Un-Canadians!

 

lol.

 

2] Angleplex

[Guest Shaved Bear]

If by that you mean "less racist,and with less of an impules to impose it's will on other burgeoning nations like assholes" then yes,yes we are.

 

We are a more diverse group of people, and while I do not support the racists, they are part of the bad that comes with the good, and we only want whats proven to be best for people around the world (democracy)

 

still wondering if I should join

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

3) LesnarLunatic

[Guest Moleculo]

"Hey, we do more good than harm...for the most part."

 

America's list of terrorism

 

Ever since the United States Army massacred 300 Lakotas in 1890,

American

forces have intervened elsewhere around the globe 100 times. Indeed the

United States has sent troops abroad or militarily struck other

countries'

territory 216 times since independence from Britain. Since 1945 the

United

States has intervened in more than 20 countries throughout the world.

 

Since World War II, the United States actually dropped bombs on 23

countries. These include: China 1945-46, Korea 1950-53, China 1950-53,

Guatemala 1954, Indonesia 1958, Cuba 1959-60, Guatemala 1960, Congo

1964,

Peru 1965, Laos 1964-73, Vietnam 1961-73, Cambodia 1969-70, Guatemala

1967-69, Grenada 1983, Lebanon 1984, Libya 1986, El Salvador 1980s,

Nicaragua 1980s, Panama 1989, Iraq 1991-1999, Sudan 1998, Afghanistan

1998,

and Yugoslavia 1999.

 

Post World War II, the United States has also assisted in over 20

different

coups throughout the world, and the CIA was responsible for half a

dozen

assassinations of political heads of state.

 

The following is a comprehensive summary of the imperialist strategy of

the

United States over the

span of the past century:

 

Argentina - 1890 - Troops sent to Buenos Aires to

protect business interests.

 

Chile - 1891 - Marines sent to Chile and clashed with

nationalist rebels.

 

Haiti - 1891 - American troops suppress a revolt by

Black workers on United States-claimed Navassa Island.

 

 

Hawaii - 1893 - Navy sent to Hawaii to overthrow the

independent kingdom - Hawaii annexed by the United

States.

 

Nicaragua - 1894 - Troops occupied Bluefields, a city

on the Caribbean Sea, for a month.

 

China - 1894-95 - Navy, Army, and Marines landed

during the Sino-Japanese War.

 

Korea - 1894-96 - Troops kept in Seoul during the war.

 

 

Panama - 1895 - Army, Navy, and Marines landed in the

port city of Corinto.

 

China - 1894-1900 - Troops occupied China during the

Boxer Rebellion.

 

Philippines - 1898-1910 - Navy and Army troops landed

after the Philippines fell during the Spanish-American

War; 600,000 Filipinos were killed.

 

Cuba - 1898-1902 - Troops seized Cuba in the

Spanish-American War; the United States still

maintains troops at Guantanamo Bay today.

 

Puerto Rico - 1898 - present - Troops seized Puerto

Rico in the Spanish-American War and still occupy

Puerto Rico today.

 

Nicaragua - 1898 - Marines landed at the port of San

Juan del Sur.

 

Samoa - 1899 - Troops landed as a result over the

battle for succession to the throne.

 

Panama - 1901-14 - Navy supported the revolution when

Panama claimed independence from Colombia. American

troops have occupied the Canal Zone since 1901 when

construction for the canal began.

 

Honduras - 1903 - Marines landed to intervene during a

revolution.

 

Dominican Rep 1903-04 - Troops landed to protect

American interests during a revolution.

 

Korea - 1904-05 - Marines landed during the

Russo-Japanese War.

 

Cuba - 1906-09 - Troops landed during an election.

 

Nicaragua - 1907 - Troops landed and a protectorate

was set up.

 

Honduras - 1907 - Marines landed during Honduras' war

with Nicaragua.

 

Panama - 1908 - Marines sent in during Panama's

election.

 

Nicaragua - 1910 - Marines landed for a second time in

Bluefields and Corinto.

 

Honduras - 1911 - Troops sent in to protect American

interests during Honduras' civil war.

 

China - 1911-41 - Navy and troops sent to China during

continuous flare-ups.

 

Cuba - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American

interests in Havana.

 

Panama - 1912 - Marines landed during Panama's

election.

 

Honduras - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American

interests.

 

Nicaragua - 1912-33 - Troops occupied Nicaragua and

fought guerrillas during its 20-year civil war.

 

Mexico - 1913 - Navy evacuated Americans during

revolution.

 

Dominican Rep 1914 - Navy fought with rebels over

Santo Domingo.

 

Mexico - 1914-18 - Navy and troops sent in to

intervene against nationalists.

 

Haiti - 1914-34 - Troops occupied Haiti after a

revolution and occupied Haiti for 19 years.

 

Dominican Rep 1916-24 - Marines occupied the Dominican

Republic for eight years.

 

Cuba - 1917-33 - Troops landed and occupied Cuba for

16 years; Cuba became an economic protectorate.

 

World War I - 1917-18 - Navy and Army sent to Europe

to fight the Axis powers.

 

Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern

Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five

landings.

 

Honduras - 1919 - Marines sent during Honduras'

national elections.

 

Guatemala - 1920 - Troops occupied Guatemala for two

weeks during a union strike.

 

Turkey - 1922 - Troops fought nationalists in Smyrna.

 

China - 1922-27 - Navy and Army troops deployed during

a nationalist revolt.

 

Honduras - 1924-25 - Troops landed twice during a

national election.

 

Panama - 1925 - Troops sent in to put down a general

strike.

 

China - 1927-34 - Marines sent in and stationed for

seven years throughout China.

 

El Salvador - 1932 - Naval warships deployed during

the FMLN revolt under Marti.

 

World War II - 1941-45 - Military fought the Axis

powers: Japan, Germany, and Italy.

 

Yugoslavia - 1946 - Navy deployed off the coast of

Yugoslavia in response to the downing of an American

plane.

 

Uruguay - 1947 - Bombers deployed as a show of

military force.

 

Greece - 1947-49 - United States operations insured a

victory for the far right in national "elections."

 

Germany - 1948 - Military deployed in response to the

Berlin blockade; the Berlin airlift lasts 444 days.

 

Philippines - 1948-54 - The CIA directed a civil war

against the Filipino Huk revolt.

 

Puerto Rico - 1950 - Military helped crush an

independence rebellion in Ponce.

 

Korean War - 1951-53 - Military sent in during the

war.

 

Iran - 1953 - The CIA orchestrated the overthrow of

democratically elected Mossadegh and restored the Shah

to power.

 

Vietnam - 1954 - The United States offered weapons to

the French in the battle against Ho Chi Minh and the

Viet Minh.

 

Guatemala - 1954 - The CIA overthrew the

democratically elected Arbenz and placed Colonel Armas

in power.

 

Egypt - 1956 - Marines deployed to evacuate foreigners

after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.

 

Lebanon - 1958 - Navy supported an Army occupation of

Lebanon during its civil war.

 

Panama - 1958 - Troops landed after Panamanians

demonstrations threatened the Canal Zone.

 

Vietnam - 1950s-75 - Vietnam War.

 

Cuba - 1961 - The CIA-directed Bay of Pigs invasions

failed to overthrow the Castro government.

 

Cuba - 1962 - The Navy quarantines Cuba during the

Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

Laos - 1962 - Military occupied Laos during its civil

war against the Pathet Lao guerrillas.

 

Panama - 1964 - Troops sent in and Panamanians shot

while protesting the United States presence in the

Canal Zone.

 

Indonesia - 1965 - The CIA orchestrated a military

coup.

 

Dominican Rep- 1965-66 - Troops deployed during a

national election.

 

Guatemala - 1966-67 - Green Berets sent in.

 

Cambodia - 1969-75 - Military sent in after the

Vietnam War expanded into Cambodia.

 

Oman - 1970 - Marines landed to direct a possible

invasion into Iran.

 

Laos - 1971-75 - Americans carpet-bomb the countryside

during Laos' civil war.

 

Chile - 1973 - The CIA orchestrated a coup, killing

President Allende who had been popularly elected. The

CIA helped to establish a military regime under

General Pinochet.

 

Cambodia - 1975 - Twenty-eight Americans killed in an

effort to retrieve the crew of the Mayaquez, which had

been seized.

 

Angola - 1976-92 - The CIA backed South African rebels

fighting against Marxist Angola.

 

Iran - 1980 - Americans aborted a rescue attempt to

liberate 52 hostages seized in the Teheran embassy.

 

Libya - 1981 - American fighters shoot down two Libyan

fighters.

 

El Salvador - 1981-92 - The CIA, troops, and advisers

aid in El Salvador's war against the FMLN.

 

Nicaragua - 1981-90 - The CIA and NSC directed the

Contra War against the Sandinistas.

 

Lebanon - 1982-84 - Marines occupied Beirut during

Lebanon's civil war; 241 were killed in the American

barracks and Reagan "redeployed" the troops to the

Mediterranean.

 

Honduras - 1983-89 - Troops sent in to build bases

near the Honduran border.

 

Grenada - 1983-84 - American invasion overthrew the

Maurice Bishop government.

 

Iran - 1984 - American fighters shot down two Iranian

planes over the Persian Gulf.

 

Libya - 1986 - American fighters hit targets in and

around the capital city of Tripoli.

 

Bolivia - 1986 - The Army assisted government troops

on raids of cocaine areas.

 

Iran - 1987-88 - The United States intervened on the

side of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.

 

Libya - 1989 - Navy shot down two more Libyan jets.

 

Virgin Islands - 1989 - Troops landed during unrest

among Virgin Island peoples.

 

Philippines - 1989 - Air Force provided air cover for

government during coup.

 

Panama - 1989-90 - 27,000 Americans landed in

overthrow of President Noriega; over 2,000 Panama

civilians were killed.

 

Liberia - 1990 - Troops entered Liberia to evacuate

foreigners during civil war.

 

Saudi Arabia - 1990-91 - American troops sent to Saudi

Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against

Iraq.

 

Kuwait - 1991 - Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back

Saddam Hussein.

 

Somalia - 1992-94 - Troops occupied Somalia during

civil war.

 

Bosnia - 1993-95 - Air Force jets bombed "no-fly zone"

during civil war in Yugoslavia.

 

Haiti - 1994-96 - American troops and Navy provided a

blockade against Haiti's military government. The CIA

restored Aristide to power.

 

Zaire - 1996-97 - Marines sent into Rwanda Hutus'

refugee camps in the area where the Congo revolution

began.

 

Albania - 1997 - Troops deployed during evacuation of

foreigners.

 

Sudan - 1998 - American missiles destroyed a

pharmaceutical complex where alleged nerve gas

components were manufactured.

 

Afghanistan - 1998 - Missiles launched towards alleged

Afghan terrorist training camps.

 

Yugoslavia - 1999 - Bombings and missile attacks

carried out by the United States in conjunction with

NATO in the 11 week war against Milosevic.

 

Iraq - 1998-2001 - Missiles launched into Baghdad and

other large Iraq cities for four days. American jets

enforced "no-fly zone" and continued to hit Iraqi

targets since December 1998.

 

These **100** instances of American military

intervention did not include times when the United

States:

 

(1) deployed military police overseas;

 

(2) mobilized the National Guard;

 

(3) sent Navy ships off the coast of numerous

countries as a show of strength;

 

(4) sent additional troops to areas where Americans

were already stationed;

 

(5) carried out covert actions where American forces

were not under the direct rule of an American command;

 

 

(6) used small hostage rescue units;

 

(7) used American pilots to fly foreign planes;

 

(8) carried out military training and advisory

programs which did not involve direct combat.

 

 

U. S. Government Assassination Plots

====================================

 

Following is a list of prominent foreign leaders whose assassination

(or planning for same) the United States has been involved in since

the end of Second World War. The list does not include several

assassinations in various parts of the world carried out by anti-Castro

Cubans employed by CIA and headquartered in the United States:

 

LIST A: NON MUSLIMS

 

1949 - KIm Koo, Korean opposition leader

1950's - CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of numerous political figures in

West Germany

1955 - Jose' Antonio Remon, President of Panama

1950's Chou En-lai, Prime Minister of China, several attempts

on his life

1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premiere of North Korea

1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader

1955 - Jawar Lal Nehru, Prime Minister of India

1959 and 1963 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia

1950s-70s - Jose Figueres, President of Costa Rica,

two attempts on his life

1961 - Francois "Papa Doc"Duvalier, leader of Haiti

1961 - Patrice Lumumba , Prime Minister of Congo (Zaire)

1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic

1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam

1960s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, more than

15 attempts on his life

1960s - Raul Castro, high official in government of Cuba

1965 - Francisco Caamanao, Dominican Republic opposition leader

1965 - Pierre Ngendandumwe, Prime Minister of Burundi

1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France

1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader

1970 - Salvadore Allende, President of Chile

1970 - General Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile

1970s and 1981 - Gen. Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama

1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence

1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire

1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica

1983 - Miguel d'Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua

1984 - The nine commandantes of the Sandanista

National Directorate

1980's - Dr. Gerald Bull, Canadian Ballistics Scientist

assassinated by Mossad in Belgium.

 

Partial List of Muslim Leaders Assassinated or

Attempted Assassinations

1950's Sukarno, President of Indonesia

1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt

1960 Brigadier General, Abdul Karim Kassem, Leader of Iraq

1980-86 Muammar Qaddafi, Leader of Libya, several plots and

attempts upon his life

1982 Ayatullah Khomeini, Leader of Iran

1983 General Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan army Commander

1985 Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadllallah, Lebanese Shiite Leader

(80 people killed in that attempt)

1991 Saddam Hussein, Leader of Iraq

Reference: Blum, William, "KILLING HOPE - U.S. Military and

CIA Interventions Since World War II," Appendix III

U.S. Government Assassination Plots, page 453,

Common Courage Press, Monroe, Maine 1995. ISBN 1-56751-052-3

 

Very likely Victims :

April 4, 1979 - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Leader of Pakistan, for pursuing

making

of

Nuclear Bomb.

August, 1988. General Ziaul Haq, Military Leader of Pakistan.

1995 - Murtaza Bhutto, Son of ZUlfiqar Ali Bhutto, Anti-American

would-be Leader - Pakistan.

March 25, 1975 - King Faisal of Saudi Arabia through his Nephew, Saudi

Arabia

for imposing 1973 Oil Embargo.

August 24, 1999. Mullah Mohammad Omar, in Kandhar, Afghanistan.

|

"À"List of Known Assassination Plots

1950's Sukarno, President of Indonesia

1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President

2001 Since early this year more than 40 Palestinian leaders

assassinated

through surrogate Israel.

[Guest Nezbyte]

Someone has no life ^.^

 

I'd join, but AS hates me

[Guest Fook_Hing_Ho]

Moleculo, I applaud you for posting all that info.

 

Where'd you get all that anyways?

[Guest Angle-plex]

I think he hates Treble Charged more.

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

Moleculo just violated plagarism laws.

 

oh, shut the fuck up with your anti-America whining. That's why America doesn't care too much for other countries. Because they are whiners and they insist everything we do is terrorism

[Guest Shaved Bear]

you're right, America does go out of line with it's policing, but they do go to protect the little guys in each country, if people are suffering the United States tries to right the problem, and while it may not be 100% right all the time, it does its best to make the world a better place. For every oppresive leader we kill we feed double the amount of starving people, we as a country do not always do what's right but we always act with the best intentions, and while I never have condoned the assassinations of the CIA, they have been frowned down upon by the government.

 

I'm not gonna stand here and say you are wrong, because you aren't, but the United States does not hold the attitude that they are going to kill every leader that is different from them

[Guest Moleculo]

"Someone has no life ^.^"

 

I copy and pasted.

 

"Moleculo just violated plagarism laws."

 

name one place where I even implied it was my writing.

 

"oh, shut the fuck up with your anti-America whining."

 

I'll shut the fuck up when America decides to stop being assholes to the rest of the world.

 

"That's why America doesn't care too much for other countries. Because they are whiners and they insist everything we do is terrorism."

 

Really?I thought Americans who didn't care about other countries did so because they were pompus assholes.I insist that the instances of terrorism listed above are terrorism,fuckface.Get your facts straight before you fly off the deep end,you jingoistic jackass(ooh,alliteration).

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

One man on your COPIED list.

 

"1980's - Dr. Gerald Bull, Canadian Ballistics Scientist assassinated by Mossad in Belgium."

 

Who was making a massive gun for the Iraqis that could shoot at Jerusalem from Baghdad. Did you not realize that or did you omit it because it didn't help your America-Sucks views?

 

AMERICA DOES NOT CONTROL MOSSAD! GET THAT THRU YOUR HEAD! We are not to blame for what Mossad does. You have failed to present legit proof that the CIA has done ANY of that stuff that you allege.

 

let's go to another thing that you says proves that America is terrorist and imperialist.

 

"Saudi Arabia - 1990-91 - American troops sent to Saudi Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against Iraq.

 

Kuwait - 1991 - Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back Saddam Hussein."

 

Yeah.. you supporting Iraq there? you saying that Iraq should be allowed to shallow up other countries but if we fight them, we are being imperialist?

 

Good lord son, you are in quicksand.

[Guest Angle-plex]

I think Canada should now be called America Jr..

 

And if Canada is so great, why do ALL of your athletes and actors come to America?

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

"name one place where I even implied it was my writing."

 

Name one place where you gave credit to the people who wrote it.

 

"I'll shut the fuck up when America decides to stop being assholes to the rest of the world."

 

Yeah.. we're just being such assholes. Ask the women in Afghanistan, the South Koreans, or any of those other places. I suppose you don't have a list of Soviet-supported imperialism around, unless you like that sort of thing.

 

"Really?I thought Americans who didn't care about other countries did so because they were pompus assholes."

 

or simply because they don't have the time to care about those places. It doesn't help that places like Kuwait are ingrates.

 

"I insist that the instances of terrorism listed above are terrorism, fuckface."

 

Ooooooh... that's convincing. So, it's terrorism that the US saved the nation of Kuwait? are you gonna want to put Powell and Bush on trial for that?

 

"Get your facts straight before you fly off the deep end, you jingoistic jackass(ooh,alliteration)."

 

You are one to talk about getting your facts straight.

[Guest Anglesault]

I don't hate Nezbyte, we disagree on HHH.

 

And Moleculo, if America does not take action, shit like 9/11 can and WILL happen again.

 

On top of that, there are plenty of countries around the world who bitch about America not doing enough for the Golbal community, only to whine when they do something.

[Guest Human Fly]

4) Human Fly

[Guest Incandenza]

That's America

 

by Bruce McCulloch, a Canadian

 

Some people look at a flag, swaying in the breeze of the White House and say, "That's America." Whenever I see an American flag hung in a window of a basement apartment by guys who have better things to do with their money than buy curtains, I say, "That's America, to me."

In America, there are fifty-one states. Or maybe it's eighty by now. Does England count? I'm not quite sure. The one thing I am sure of is, if I'm standing in a warehouse beside a timeclock, and a guy is punching in his best friend who's too hungover to get out of bed, I'm standing in America. The makeover capital of the world. The place where every young man has to answer in his heart the question: What do you love more, your girlfriend, or your car? Where that young man can buy a beat-up car for three hundred dollars, but have to spend a thousand to insure it. The land where even a paperboy can option the film rights to a book.

 

America. In America, a woman on an assembly line works out her overtime in her head to infinity, and at the exact same moment, her husband gets into a car crash because he was looking at a girl in a tube top.

 

America. A land where spelling doesn't count, but people's pets do. Where else can you get a job riding a whale at marineland? The land where a guy's girlfriend breaks up with him over the phone, so he takes a gun, and kills the principal. Everyone's sad until they get the day off. Next week, another guy, another gal, another, "We can still be friends" phone call. Whuh-oh! The *assistant* principal gets killed. And everyone is sad because they *don't* get the day off. Because he was only the assistant principal.

 

America. A land of opportunity. Yes, that great lumbering beast that journeys tirelessly and stops only to eat a clubouse sandwich, pick its teeth with a matchbook cover, and fall asleep with the tv on.

 

America. A place for Americans.

[Guest Moleculo]

I also move we should be named America,Jr. so it would be easier to get a goddamn green card when i need a job.America:home of the highest-paying jobs,and the lowest common denominator.

 

"Yeah.. you supporting Iraq there? you saying that Iraq should be allowed to shallow up other countries but if we fight them, we are being imperialist?"

 

Maybe if you had said something like "we're going there to protect our oil interests,because we need oil cheap." i could accept it,but Americans said they were going there to protect freedom,which is utter BULLSHIT.The same regime that had been oppressing the Saudis for ages was put back into place after America left,so there was no freedom.

[Guest Shaved Bear]

5)Shaved Bear

 

thanks inc, your post really helped me

[Guest Angle-plex]

Hey, America isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than any other country on this planet.

[Guest Anglesault]

In America, there are fifty-one states.

The fifty first state being....?

[Guest Moleculo]

"And Moleculo, if America does not take action, shit like 9/11 can and WILL happen again."

 

So,if you don't stage coups in Brazil,terrorists will fly planes into buildings?Okay.

 

"On top of that, there are plenty of countries around the world who bitch about America not doing enough for the Golbal community, only to whine when they do something."

 

Yeah,something like killing double the number of innocent civilains in Afghanistan than were killed in the WTC disaster.

[Guest Shaved Bear]

I hate when people critisize America around the clock, yet when they want a job, or a college to go to, they always know where to turn

[Guest Angle-plex]

The fifty first state being....?

 

Canada.

 

TAG~!

 

So Far:

Anglesault

Angleplex

LesnarLunatic

Human Fly

Shaved Bear

[Guest Incandenza]

thanks inc, your post really helped me

I'm glad I could help.

[Guest Fook_Hing_Ho]

Hey, America isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than any other country on this planet.

According to the UN, Canada is the 3rd best country in the world to live in right now with America coming in 7th.

[Guest Anglesault]

Actually, you know who does hold HUGE responsibility in the 9/11 attacks? Canada. Quite a few of the highjackers came from Canada, if I recall, using the bizarre, "I just got off a plane, and I have no ID, but I can park my ass in Canada" system.

[Guest Anglesault]

Hey, America isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than any other country on this planet.

According to the UN, Canada is the 3rd best country in the world to live in right now with America coming in 7th.

The UN is also led by a group of rabid anti-semites, as demonstrated time and time again with their dealings with Israel and Palestine. I don't trust their character.

[Guest Shaved Bear]

Hey, America isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than any other country on this planet.

According to the UN, Canada is the 3rd best country in the world to live in right now with America coming in 7th.

I wonder if any events in the last year or so has had anything to do with that...

 

anyway, I've been to Canada, it does have a cleaner enviroment, and a friendlier atmosphere amongst people, but they don't have great diversity, it is good in a few regards, but America is the superior country